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Anonymous
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September 7, 2004 6:00:29 PM

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Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
successfully managed to retain their networking capability after installing
SP2?

More about : sp2 networking

September 7, 2004 6:00:30 PM

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Go through this checklist, do what it says:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

If your system is clean and without remnants of virus/adware/spyware
infections the update will go smoothly. I've done 6 so far (XP Home/Pro,
wired/wireless). My biggest problem was having to reinstall Cisco VPN on
two of them and open up ports in the firewall for my remote control
software.

Lance
*****

Steve Richards said the following on 9/7/2004 6:00 AM:

> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after installing
> SP2?
>
>
September 7, 2004 6:00:30 PM

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I updated to SP2 and the only way I get my wireless network to work is if I
dissable the WPA or WEP encryption.
Before, with SP1, everything worked fine with WPA security on.
So the question is not, can you connect wirelessly after SP2, but are you
able to connect wirelessly with WEP or WAP encryption enabled?

"Steve Richards" wrote:

> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after installing
> SP2?
>
>
>
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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
September 7, 2004 9:07:18 PM

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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:29 +0100, Steve Richards
<sa.richards@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
> installing
> SP2?
>
>

Nope, I just got back my "normal" network, but WIFI is still down....

Better stick with SP1, good AV (etrust), good firewall (outpost), good
browser (opera) and you'll be quite safe already, on top of this if you
add mailwasher and spybot I don't see what SP2 can bring to you other than
problems (at least that's what it did for me)



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Anonymous
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September 7, 2004 9:07:19 PM

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I have installed SP2 on a laptop running wireles, and have had no problems.

"Txl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:29 +0100, Steve Richards
> <sa.richards@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my
PC
> > and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
> > successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
> > installing
> > SP2?
> >
> >
>
> Nope, I just got back my "normal" network, but WIFI is still down....
>
> Better stick with SP1, good AV (etrust), good firewall (outpost), good
> browser (opera) and you'll be quite safe already, on top of this if you
> add mailwasher and spybot I don't see what SP2 can bring to you other than
> problems (at least that's what it did for me)
>
>
>
> --
> Email contact
>
> http://cerbermail.com/?ltQ8eCFmRa
Anonymous
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September 8, 2004 2:53:16 PM

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I'd like to know more about what happens when you try to connect using WPA
or WEP. What are the symptoms you have?
--
Brandy Griffin, Microsoft

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Orion23" <Orion23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I updated to SP2 and the only way I get my wireless network to work is if I
> dissable the WPA or WEP encryption.
> Before, with SP1, everything worked fine with WPA security on.
> So the question is not, can you connect wirelessly after SP2, but are you
> able to connect wirelessly with WEP or WAP encryption enabled?
>
> "Steve Richards" wrote:
>
>> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
>> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
>> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
>> installing
>> SP2?
>>
>>
>>
September 8, 2004 11:37:09 PM

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Hi, here are the details
I have a Netgear 108MBPS Router WGT624 and a Netgear 108MBPS Notebook
adapter WG511T. Router has the latest firmware available, and the notebook
adapter also has the latest drivers available.
I have 2 wired computers and 1 wireless notebook. I had WPA encryption for a
while with SP1 and it all worked fine then.
I updated all three machines to SP2, (2 of them completely from scratch
using a CD which I integrated with SP2).
If I enable WPA on the notebook, and only if the notebook is on at that time
(I use cable internet) the connection will work, with the encryption. But,
the minute I turn any of the other computers on, I get error messages on both
wired PC's about limited or no connection available, or something about an IP
address conflict.
What also happens, is that if I get no error messages at first, the minute I
try to open the IE on any of the wired computers, then the whole connection
drops, on all computers, and here is the weird part, The router keeps on
rebooting constantly once the conflicts starts.
I even returned a router to Netgear thinking it had gone bad, however, the
new one also reacted the same way.
I have tried both, using the windows wireless utility, or the Netgear
utility. (installed-disabled, and completely uninstalled).
What is also weird, is that once I enable WPA on the router, and choose WPA
on the Netgear utility, after many scans for available networks, and it
finally gets detected, the Netgear utility "will insist that the encryption
is WEP, and not WPA"
I set both WPA PSK's, but after running the network scan, the utility
detects the network, but recognizes "WEP" security and even if I try to
correct it manually, it will simply not detect the network anymore, and when
it finally does find it again, well, it's back to "WEP" selection.

"Steve Richards" wrote:

> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after installing
> SP2?
>
>
>
Anonymous
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September 9, 2004 2:23:11 AM

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"Orion23" <Orion23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, here are the details
> I have a Netgear 108MBPS Router WGT624 and a Netgear 108MBPS Notebook
> adapter WG511T. Router has the latest firmware available, and the
> notebook
> adapter also has the latest drivers available.
> I have 2 wired computers and 1 wireless notebook. I had WPA encryption
> for a
> while with SP1 and it all worked fine then.
> I updated all three machines to SP2, (2 of them completely from
> scratch
> using a CD which I integrated with SP2).
> If I enable WPA on the notebook, and only if the notebook is on at
> that time
> (I use cable internet) the connection will work, with the encryption.
> But,
> the minute I turn any of the other computers on, I get error messages
> on both
> wired PC's about limited or no connection available, or something
> about an IP
> address conflict.
> What also happens, is that if I get no error messages at first, the
> minute I
> try to open the IE on any of the wired computers, then the whole
> connection
> drops, on all computers, and here is the weird part, The router keeps
> on
> rebooting constantly once the conflicts starts.
> I even returned a router to Netgear thinking it had gone bad, however,
> the
> new one also reacted the same way.
> I have tried both, using the windows wireless utility, or the Netgear
> utility. (installed-disabled, and completely uninstalled).
> What is also weird, is that once I enable WPA on the router, and
> choose WPA
> on the Netgear utility, after many scans for available networks, and
> it
> finally gets detected, the Netgear utility "will insist that the
> encryption
> is WEP, and not WPA"
> I set both WPA PSK's, but after running the network scan, the utility
> detects the network, but recognizes "WEP" security and even if I try
> to
> correct it manually, it will simply not detect the network anymore,
> and when
> it finally does find it again, well, it's back to "WEP" selection.
>
> "Steve Richards" wrote:
>
>> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on
>> my PC
>> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
>> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
>> installing
>> SP2?
>>
>>
>>

It might be the netgear utility. Use wireless zero (let windows manage
this connection). Others have had to remove their utilities from device
manager altogether to eliminate contention with WZC.

Broadcast SSID, that often helps with problems and there is no security
reason for not broadcasting.

If this is a special high-speed 802.11g network, disable that feature
until you get the system straightened out. Netgear's implementation is
being criticized for instability on other forums.

Make absolutely certain that the workgroup or domain is correct. Others
have found that running the network wizard one to two times finally
solves their connection issues - as if some registry setting is not
being save correctly and the group name is the chief suspect.

Try setting up static IP addresses to eliminate any DHCP issues. There
is no real reason to use DHCP behind a router on a home network, IMO.

Q
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
September 9, 2004 1:50:31 PM

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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:29 +0100, "Steve Richards"
<sa.richards@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
>and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
>successfully managed to retain their networking capability after installing
>SP2?

I have 3 machines on a home (wireless) network and look after the
systems for a small company (7 machines on a wired network plus
offsite laptops).

I downloaded the 266mb install file for SP2 and put it on cd. One of
the machines at work downloaded it via automatic updates and it
installed without incident. I then loaded onto each of the others
from the cd. All machines in the office retained full functionality
afterwards. One machine took nearly three times as long to complete
for reasons I have not yet determined (all are identical spec) but
still completed successfully.

At home the main box, used as a server, downloaded it via automatic
updates when I wasn't looking. I wasn't planning to install it for a
while as I was waiting for some other network changes to bed in first.
But when I saw it had got it I figured I'd take the plunge.
Installation was fine (although I ignored it's suggestion that I could
keep working whilst it installed). Following this it re-connected to
the wireless network without incident and with a 10% increase in
signal strength. The other machine has not yet been done (the third
is a 98SE box).

My only bugbear is that Windows monitors your firewall and your AV.
The home server has ZA and NAV installed and the resulting situation
was a mess. NAV monitors more or less all system activity for
viruses. ZA monitors NAV's performance and all system activity for
security threats. Windows was also monitoring NAV's performance AND
it was monitoring ZA's performance. It was a total case "watching us,
watching you, watching us, watching you etc". So, before a fight
broke out, I blindfolded Windows so it couldn't watch anything. It
didn't like it but I felt better that my system wasn't chewing up all
its resources with introspection!
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
September 9, 2004 2:23:58 PM

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On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:37:09 -0700, "Orion23"
<Orion23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>If I enable WPA on the notebook, and only if the notebook is on at that time
>(I use cable internet) the connection will work, with the encryption. But,
>the minute I turn any of the other computers on, I get error messages on both
>wired PC's about limited or no connection available, or something about an IP
>address conflict.

No words of wisdom here, I am afraid, but a few questions relating
specifically to the bit above. I don't understand this paragraph.
Let me get this straight - the laptop is already on (presumably
wireless disabled) and if you enable it the connection is made
successfully with WPA? The message "limited or no connection
available" refers to what, the home network or simply the internet
connection?

You mention cable internet - but the WGT624 is not a broadband modem,
either cable or ADSL (to my knowledge). This means that it is not
providing the internet connection so there must be something else
which is? In which case, if the problem is sharing the internet then
it could be trouble between the WGT624 and the device which provides
the internet connection although that would not explain why SP2
brought on the problems.

Beyond that, I have little to suggest. I resolved conflicts between
the Netgear GUI and WZC by uninstalling and re-installing the WG311 on
my main box (I then subsequently swapped the device to another machine
and replaced it with a WG311T) which also caused no conflicts with WZC
before or after the addition of SP2.

If you disable all encryption (as a test) does it resolve the problem?
If you roll back to 128bit WEP instead of WPA does that resolve the
problem? In the Netgear GUI have you saved the profile which connects
using WPA (otherwise it defaults to WEP)? Unrelated to SP2 but have
you checked the pool of IP addresses being used by the router - it is
not too restrictive.... you've not got certain IP addresses reserved
for certain MAC addresses.... DCHP is properly releasing IP addresses
when the lease expires (typically 3 days).... ???

Probably nothing Earth-shattering there but all things to have a play
around with. It does sound like trial and error may be the only way
out of this.

Speaking personally, I found the Netgear GUI to be far superior to WZC
under SP1 but I have not tried using it under SP2.

Good luck!
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
September 9, 2004 3:38:39 PM

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I installed SP2 from the CD last night on my Compaq Presario laptop without
issue. My wireless connection started right up without a problem. I
followed the instructions for SP2 install (things to do before and after the
install) step by step, exactly as instructed from this link
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm


"Txl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:29 +0100, Steve Richards
> <sa.richards@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my PC
>> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
>> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
>> installing
>> SP2?
>>
>>
>
> Nope, I just got back my "normal" network, but WIFI is still down....
>
> Better stick with SP1, good AV (etrust), good firewall (outpost), good
> browser (opera) and you'll be quite safe already, on top of this if you
> add mailwasher and spybot I don't see what SP2 can bring to you other than
> problems (at least that's what it did for me)
>
>
>
> --
> Email contact
>
> http://cerbermail.com/?ltQ8eCFmRa
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
September 9, 2004 3:54:38 PM

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And I also disable the wireless connection during the install.

"Phyllis" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I installed SP2 from the CD last night on my Compaq Presario laptop without
>issue. My wireless connection started right up without a problem. I
>followed the instructions for SP2 install (things to do before and after
>the install) step by step, exactly as instructed from this link
>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm
>
>
> "Txl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:o psdypmg1varkwbw@news.free.fr...
>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:29 +0100, Steve Richards
>> <sa.richards@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, have just read some of your messages before installing SP2 on my
>>> PC
>>> and laptop. Now I'm worried about installing it at all. Has anyone
>>> successfully managed to retain their networking capability after
>>> installing
>>> SP2?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope, I just got back my "normal" network, but WIFI is still down....
>>
>> Better stick with SP1, good AV (etrust), good firewall (outpost), good
>> browser (opera) and you'll be quite safe already, on top of this if you
>> add mailwasher and spybot I don't see what SP2 can bring to you other
>> than problems (at least that's what it did for me)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Email contact
>>
>> http://cerbermail.com/?ltQ8eCFmRa
>
>
!