Very strange Premiere problem

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As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.

But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
weren't before!).

The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
the project from that.

I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).

 

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"Jim Patterson" wrote ...
> As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> the video "freezes" for several frames
.....
> The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> the project from that.

Prime symptoms of fragmented hard drive.

 

[DC]

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Hmmm. A few questions, please...

Did it EVER work properly?

If so, would there be any "cause and effect" that might have happened
because you installed a new piece of hardware or software?

Does the problem happen with ALL your videos?

Any problems with other applications on your computer?

Doug
Oakland, CA


"Jim Patterson" <hangfire@arthur.avalon.net> wrote in message
newsine.HPP.3.96.1040406210948.11806A-100000@arthur.avalon.net...
>
> As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
> through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
> and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
> necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.
>
> But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
> project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
> weren't before!).
>
> The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> the project from that.
>
> I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
> difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
> XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).
>


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This sounds very much like the problem that my wife was having, that I
inquired about a week or so ago. We had run defrag, even though the
defrag utility said the data drive was not very fragmented and we didn't
need it. We defragged anyway, with no change.

In my wife's case, the jitter or freezes only occurred when a camera was
plugged into the computer via firewire.

Richard Crowley wrote:
>
> "Jim Patterson" wrote ...
> > As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> > the video "freezes" for several frames
> ....
> > The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> > is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> > the project from that.
>
> Prime symptoms of fragmented hard drive.

--
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
stauffer@usfamily.net
webpage- http://www.usfamily.net/web/stauffer

 

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Under project settings, have you clicked off the "playback on camcorder"
option?

Jim Patterson wrote:

>As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
>the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
>through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
>and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
>necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.
>
>But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
>project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
>weren't before!).
>
>The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
>is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
>the project from that.
>
>I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
>difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
>XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).
>
>
>

 

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Turn off or unplug your DV camcorder.

"Bill Van Dyk" <trash@christian-horizons.org> wrote in message
news:40744851.9010006@christian-horizons.org...
> Under project settings, have you clicked off the "playback on camcorder"
> option?
>
> Jim Patterson wrote:
>
> >As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> >the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
> >through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
> >and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
> >necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.
> >
> >But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
> >project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
> >weren't before!).
> >
> >The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> >is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> >the project from that.
> >
> >I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
> >difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
> >XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).
> >
> >
> >
>

 

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"Don Stauffer" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:407402EB.81CCE27C@usfamily.net...
> This sounds very much like the problem that my wife was having, that I
> inquired about a week or so ago. We had run defrag, even though the
> defrag utility said the data drive was not very fragmented and we didn't
> need it. We defragged anyway, with no change.
>
> In my wife's case, the jitter or freezes only occurred when a camera was
> plugged into the computer via firewire.

Adobe does this on purpose when you have your camcorder connected and turned on.
The reason is the program doesn't want to waste resources on your computer
display, and instead devotes most of its resources to outputting good video to
your camcorder, which is generally what you want. If you don't need your
camcorder for preview or recording purposes, turn it off.

 

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During editing, this is true, and she now makes sure the camera is
unplugged. However, during recording completed program back to camera
to get output on DV tape, she finds it much easier to look at monitor
periodically rather than tiny display on camera. She just wants to
confirm that it is still okay during record. Sure, it is not an
absolute necessity, but she would sure feel more comfortable seeing it.

SimMike- wrote:

>
> Adobe does this on purpose when you have your camcorder connected and turned on.
> The reason is the program doesn't want to waste resources on your computer
> display, and instead devotes most of its resources to outputting good video to
> your camcorder, which is generally what you want. If you don't need your
> camcorder for preview or recording purposes, turn it off.

--
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
stauffer@usfamily.net
webpage- http://www.usfamily.net/web/stauffer

 

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"Don Stauffer" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:40755F18.A159B1BC@usfamily.net...
> During editing, this is true, and she now makes sure the camera is
> unplugged. However, during recording completed program back to camera
> to get output on DV tape, she finds it much easier to look at monitor
> periodically rather than tiny display on camera. She just wants to
> confirm that it is still okay during record. Sure, it is not an
> absolute necessity, but she would sure feel more comfortable seeing it.

Plug a TV/monitor into the camcorder to view with.
That is the *only* reliable way of judging the image
quality. The video will likely look too dark on the PC
monitor because of the very different gamma.

 

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Where is this "playback on camcorder" option? I've never had a camcorder
connected to this computer though.

Also all the drives are defragmented and have tons of space.

Every once in awhile several frames on the timeline will be identical (so
when it plays at normal speed, it looks like the video "freezes" for a
split second)...I'm not sure if I described it very well the first time.

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Bill Van Dyk wrote:

> Under project settings, have you clicked off the "playback on camcorder"
> option?
>
> Jim Patterson wrote:
>
> >As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> >the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
> >through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
> >and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
> >necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.
> >
> >But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
> >project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
> >weren't before!).
> >
> >The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> >is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> >the project from that.
> >
> >I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
> >difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
> >XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

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Oh I found it...the "playback on DV Camcorder/VCR" option was already
off...must be something else.

I think it's always done this afaik...I've installed 5.5 and reinstalled
6.5 and it's still there.

If a clip on the timeline gets this weird problem of several duplicate
frames, it still has the problem even if I move the clip somewhere else on
the timeline (and even if I load an older version of the project that
previously was fine!).

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Bill Van Dyk wrote:

> Under project settings, have you clicked off the "playback on camcorder"
> option?
>
> Jim Patterson wrote:
>
> >As I'm editing, gradually I get more and more places in the timeline where
> >the video "freezes" for several frames (I can even see this while going
> >through frame-by-frame...not just when I export). I'm changing the speed
> >and using some clips that were 25 fps, so I thought this might be a
> >necessary evil when editing in 29.97 fps.
> >
> >But here's the weird part: Even when I load an older version of the same
> >project I'm working on, the glitches are now there too (even though they
> >weren't before!).
> >
> >The only way I can seem to revert to an older project without the glitches
> >is if I saved the entire project AND all the clips on CD-ROM and reload
> >the project from that.
> >
> >I'm using a lot of raw footage in Video CD MPEG format if that makes a
> >difference. I can't figure this out. I'm using Premiere 6.1 and Windows
> >XP by the way (I've also tried 5.5 and reinstalled 6.1).
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>