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Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of us?
Are these people also republicans?

Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.
 
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Hard Plop wrote:

> Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of us?
> Are these people also republicans?
>
> Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.

Bottom posting is considered proper etiquette on Usenet.

It encourages reading the previous posts.
 
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"Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote in message
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> Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of us?

It is the other way around. Sorry to be the one to break the news to you.
You've obviously just found usenet recently ... or possibly, you are just a
wanking troll. Usenet is not the www Usenet is not an http message board.
Usenet isn't email. Usenet is usenet. Usenet threads are read top to
bottom. Outlook Express treats them wrongly, but one can whip OE into
submission so that it all makes sense.


> Are these people also republicans?

Again, you have it backwards. Democrats are the ones who want everyone to
be socialist conformists.

>
> Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.

Let's try to at least try to tie your thread to the topic of the news group:
At the end of a movie or other video production, you might notice credits
rolling. When credits roll, do they roll from bottom to top or from top to
bottom? Of course, they roll from bottom to top. Why is that? It is to
have you read some information before other information. How does this
pertain to a threaded message? Check the headers of any random reply in any
news group. You will see that there is a header called "References". That
is to show what to tie the reply to. This is how replies are threaded into
what you see displayed. On usenet, "bottom posting" is done so that
threaded conversations make sense to the reader. If you visit some of the
older Big-8 groups, you might find threads that have gone on for months and
that reach into the thousands of messages. If you want to make sense of it
all, you would have to start at the beginning and read every single message
if everyone top posted. As it is when people post properly while
understanding threading, you can pick out just a few messages to see what
was said and what the replies were. In fact, you can even make sense of it
if you pick out just a few favorite authors.

One must read some information to understand the replies. Usenet is simple.
 
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see what I mean?

"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> "Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote in message
> news:p56dnbveZOVuVwvdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>
> > Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of
us?
>
> It is the other way around. Sorry to be the one to break the news to you.
> You've obviously just found usenet recently ... or possibly, you are just
a
> wanking troll. Usenet is not the www Usenet is not an http message
board.
> Usenet isn't email. Usenet is usenet. Usenet threads are read top to
> bottom. Outlook Express treats them wrongly, but one can whip OE into
> submission so that it all makes sense.
>
>
> > Are these people also republicans?
>
> Again, you have it backwards. Democrats are the ones who want everyone to
> be socialist conformists.
>
> >
> > Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.
>
> Let's try to at least try to tie your thread to the topic of the news
group:
> At the end of a movie or other video production, you might notice credits
> rolling. When credits roll, do they roll from bottom to top or from top
to
> bottom? Of course, they roll from bottom to top. Why is that? It is to
> have you read some information before other information. How does this
> pertain to a threaded message? Check the headers of any random reply in
any
> news group. You will see that there is a header called "References".
That
> is to show what to tie the reply to. This is how replies are threaded
into
> what you see displayed. On usenet, "bottom posting" is done so that
> threaded conversations make sense to the reader. If you visit some of the
> older Big-8 groups, you might find threads that have gone on for months
and
> that reach into the thousands of messages. If you want to make sense of
it
> all, you would have to start at the beginning and read every single
message
> if everyone top posted. As it is when people post properly while
> understanding threading, you can pick out just a few messages to see what
> was said and what the replies were. In fact, you can even make sense of
it
> if you pick out just a few favorite authors.
>
> One must read some information to understand the replies. Usenet is
simple.
>
>
 
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"Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote in message
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> see what I mean?

Ahhh. So you *are* just a wanking troll. Toddle off now. -=Plonk!=-
 
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except i have to scroll to the bottom every time I get a new message.

that's a pain.

Also Usenet is not one way or the other. it is a mixture.

Also if I scroll down I can see that Republicans

Looked for WMD - That didn't work
Captured Saddam Hussein - That didn't help
Disparaged those who questioned - That didn't wash
Gave families a big proud feeling in exchange for a dead soldier /football
player- That didn't stop them.
Re-package their rationale each month. - That doesn't surprise anyone.

If we spend enough money and lives, eventually the Muslims will like us!









"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> "Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote in message
> news:p56dnbveZOVuVwvdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>
> > Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of
us?
>
> It is the other way around. Sorry to be the one to break the news to you.
> You've obviously just found usenet recently ... or possibly, you are just
a
> wanking troll. Usenet is not the www Usenet is not an http message
board.
> Usenet isn't email. Usenet is usenet. Usenet threads are read top to
> bottom. Outlook Express treats them wrongly, but one can whip OE into
> submission so that it all makes sense.
>
>
> > Are these people also republicans?
>
> Again, you have it backwards. Democrats are the ones who want everyone to
> be socialist conformists.
>
> >
> > Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.
>
> Let's try to at least try to tie your thread to the topic of the news
group:
> At the end of a movie or other video production, you might notice credits
> rolling. When credits roll, do they roll from bottom to top or from top
to
> bottom? Of course, they roll from bottom to top. Why is that? It is to
> have you read some information before other information. How does this
> pertain to a threaded message? Check the headers of any random reply in
any
> news group. You will see that there is a header called "References".
That
> is to show what to tie the reply to. This is how replies are threaded
into
> what you see displayed. On usenet, "bottom posting" is done so that
> threaded conversations make sense to the reader. If you visit some of the
> older Big-8 groups, you might find threads that have gone on for months
and
> that reach into the thousands of messages. If you want to make sense of
it
> all, you would have to start at the beginning and read every single
message
> if everyone top posted. As it is when people post properly while
> understanding threading, you can pick out just a few messages to see what
> was said and what the replies were. In fact, you can even make sense of
it
> if you pick out just a few favorite authors.
>
> One must read some information to understand the replies. Usenet is
simple.
>
>
 
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> Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of
us?

Some feel the need to try and cure ignorance.

> Are these people also republicans?

I'm about as far as you can get from a Republican but I also gave up
long ago trying to educate those who can't seem to comprehend common
sense.

> Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.

Coming from a troll, that's probably a compliment.
 
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> > Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of
> us?
>
> Some feel the need to try and cure ignorance.
>
> > Are these people also republicans?
>
> I'm about as far as you can get from a Republican but I also gave up
> long ago trying to educate those who can't seem to comprehend common
> sense.
>
> > Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.
>
> Coming from a troll, that's probably a compliment.
>
>
 
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Hard Plop wrote:

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>
> Also Usenet is not one way or the other. it is a mixture.
>

Because some people insist on doing things the wrong way even after being told
the right way.
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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: Hard Plop wrote:
:
: >
: >
: > Also Usenet is not one way or the other. it is a mixture.
: >
:
: Because some people insist on doing things the wrong way even after being
told
: the right way.
:
:
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

If you plonk him who will you have to practice on?

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: plonk and good riddance
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Thats fine, Usenet also encourages snipping and most people don't best you
track them all down.
 

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"Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote:

> Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of us?
> Are these people also republicans?

bottom posting is "correct"... top posting is "not"...

for a thread that won't have discussion, a quick top post isn't a
problem, but if you are looking for a "response" from many, bottom
posting is the only acceptable method.
 

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"Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote:

> except i have to scroll to the bottom every time I get a new message.
>
> that's a pain.
>
> Also Usenet is not one way or the other. it is a mixture.
>
> Also if I scroll down I can see that Republicans
>
> Looked for WMD - That didn't work
> Captured Saddam Hussein - That didn't help
> Disparaged those who questioned - That didn't wash
> Gave families a big proud feeling in exchange for a dead soldier /football
> player- That didn't stop them.
> Re-package their rationale each month. - That doesn't surprise anyone.
>
> If we spend enough money and lives, eventually the Muslims will like us!

Plop... it only takes a 1/5 of a second to get to the bottom of a post...

DO NOT TOP POST - or you will be ignored...

http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Top-posting_or_bottom-posting
 
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In article <p56dnbveZOVuVwvdRVn-ig@comcast.com>, stork@nospam_that
says...
> Why is that the bottom posters are always trying to change the rest of us?
> Are these people also republicans?
>
> Oh wait. That's bottom feeders.
>
>
>
>
>

Bottom posting is proper and accepted over many thousands of years, even
cave men knew to write on the cave wall under the last message. I guess
now we have a lot more genetic mutations and they all have internet
access.
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> Bottom posting is proper and accepted over many thousands of years,
even
> cave men knew to write on the cave wall under the last message. I
guess
> now we have a lot more genetic mutations and they all have internet
> access.

Gene pool dilution, and all that. <g>
 
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My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who do a one word
reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(

Mike
 
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"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who do a one word
> reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
>
ow about a one word or very short reply at the top of such a message? Don't
you understand the problem with that? A major complaint about top posters
is the wasted bandwidth when they have a one word reply and don't snip. You
happen to have snipped here and that is good, except in the case of anyone
reading on a server that has had poor propogation and they can't tell what
it is you are replying to. Or for those who chose your message to read for
its placement in the thread hoping to get some understanding of the thread
only to find out you snipped everything. So, now they have to choose
another message to download to figure it out.

Something to keep in mind is that there are still many people paying by the
minute for internet access in remote (and some not-so-remote) parts of the
world. Snipping is good for those people especially. Top posters almost
never do any snipping and that is disrespectful to their fellow usenetizens.
Of course, I have to admit that my own contiued participation in this off
topic drivel is also wasting bandwidth.
 
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In your case, I have to scroll all the way to the bottom , then scroll back
up till I find what looks like the beginning of your message.

So I must look for some delineation characters, up from the bottom

Much easier to just start reading from the top of a top-posted message.


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> "Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:c793s3$17cgb$1@ID-113661.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who do a one word
> > reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
> >
> ow about a one word or very short reply at the top of such a message?
Don't
> you understand the problem with that? A major complaint about top posters
> is the wasted bandwidth when they have a one word reply and don't snip.
You
> happen to have snipped here and that is good, except in the case of anyone
> reading on a server that has had poor propogation and they can't tell what
> it is you are replying to. Or for those who chose your message to read
for
> its placement in the thread hoping to get some understanding of the thread
> only to find out you snipped everything. So, now they have to choose
> another message to download to figure it out.
>
> Something to keep in mind is that there are still many people paying by
the
> minute for internet access in remote (and some not-so-remote) parts of the
> world. Snipping is good for those people especially. Top posters almost
> never do any snipping and that is disrespectful to their fellow
usenetizens.
> Of course, I have to admit that my own contiued participation in this off
> topic drivel is also wasting bandwidth.
>
>
 
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"Mike Kujbida" wrote ...
> My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who
> do a one word reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(

My experience is that bottom posters are almost always the
more consientiuous in trimming the quoted previous text also.

In fact, I have never seen a top-poster ever trim any quoted
text.
 
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"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:c793s3$17cgb$1@ID-113661.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who do a one word
> > reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
> >
> ow about a one word or very short reply at the top of such a message?
Don't
> you understand the problem with that? A major complaint about top posters
> is the wasted bandwidth when they have a one word reply and don't snip.


I agree with you totally on this point. Posters (both top and bottom)
really do need to learn to do judicious snipping when and where required.


> You
> happen to have snipped here and that is good, except in the case of anyone
> reading on a server that has had poor propogation and they can't tell what
> it is you are replying to.

Unlike now, I wasn't replying to anything anyone else said. I was
expressing my personal opinion about bottom posters and one-word responses -
which no one else had mentioned so far.


> Or for those who chose your message to read for
> its placement in the thread hoping to get some understanding of the thread
> only to find out you snipped everything. So, now they have to choose
> another message to download to figure it out.


Or they could just take my message in the context which it was intended and
that was a gripe as already mentioned above.

Rest of response snipped for brevity.

Mike
 
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so the botom-posters are now retreating from the bottom-posting for
bottom-posting's sake argument.

They are taking refuge in the "more bottom posters snip"... argument?

(or as rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity would say, "desperately clinging...")


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> "Mike Kujbida" wrote ...
> > My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who
> > do a one word reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
>
> My experience is that bottom posters are almost always the
> more consientiuous in trimming the quoted previous text also.
>
> In fact, I have never seen a top-poster ever trim any quoted
> text.
>
>
 
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Or the occasional zero-word reply.

Can't be sure if they're bottom or top posters :)

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"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in
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> My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who do a one word
> reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
>
> Mike
>
>



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I have
"Hard Plop" <stork@nospam_that is really my domain.com> wrote in message
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> so the botom-posters are now retreating from the bottom-posting for
> bottom-posting's sake argument.

An Idea
>
> They are taking refuge in the "more bottom posters snip"... argument?
>
> (or as rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity would say, "desperately
clinging...")
>
>
> "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message


How about middle posting?

> news:109gj7ocne4846@corp.supernews.com...
> > "Mike Kujbida" wrote ...
> > > My major complaint with bottom posters are the ones who
> > > do a one word reply - at the bottom of a 200 line message :-(
> >
> > My experience is that bottom posters are almost always the
> > more consientiuous in trimming the quoted previous text also.
> >
> > In fact, I have never seen a top-poster ever trim any quoted
> > text.
> >
> >
>
>