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Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:19 PM

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Hi,

Steam won't run on my comp if my internet conn is malfunctioning. As
it does this quite often, it's become quite a nuisance. I read some
cerap on Steam's pages about disabling your internet conn before
running Steam. Alledgedly, this would make Steam "fallback" to offline
mode and run. Not so on my comp. Any tips?
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Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:20 PM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Steam won't run on my comp if my internet conn is malfunctioning. As
> it does this quite often, it's become quite a nuisance. I read some
> cerap on Steam's pages about disabling your internet conn before
> running Steam. Alledgedly, this would make Steam "fallback" to offline
> mode and run. Not so on my comp. Any tips?
> --
> _______________________________________________


Well, I found on my system that it does need an internet connection (per the
instructions on the box) at least once to setup and register your steam
account. You can check the "remember password" information box, and it will
play the game offline. You will not need an internet connection to play the
game. However, one day (about a month later) the game would not play
without connecting to the internet and updating. It just has to "phone
home" every now and then. This repeats to this day. And it seems every
computer system is a little different, so your results may vary.
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:20 PM

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Bert Byfield wrote:
>
> I can never play the game without an online connection. From what I have
> read, Steam/Sierra insists on this arrangement.

Which part of "offline mode" is it you do not understand
Don't forward facts which is so obvious false!

True Steam and HL2 has to be fully updated and ready for offline play
But if in this state you can easily start Steam in offline mode

Vivendi Universal/Sierra is no longer distributor of Valve games!

- Peter
Related resources
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:20 PM

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Shawk wrote:
>
> C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220
>
Shouldn't that be the validate command?
steam://validate/320

rgds/Peter
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:20 PM

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Greger Hoel wrote:
> On 5 Jul 2005 12:28:01 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Try deleting the clientregistry.blob file (or rename it)
>
> Doesn't work. When I disable my conn ...

After you have deleted the file let Steam do it's updating
You might leave it on all night

Check with the monitor and see if you have any traffic

Start "play games" select Half-life 2, rightclick and select properties
and check status
Status has to be "ready to play", amount acqired "100%" and Offline
Mode has to be "Ready"

Check these settings and write what you have
Disk usage is about 900Mb atm

- Peter
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:01:20 PM

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Greger Hoel wrote:
>
> This just about wraps it up for you, "Cannon Fodder." Since you don't
> have a problem with offline mode, the turd-soup between your ears
> can't even fathom that the problem may exist for others without it
> being thru some fault of their own. You're clinically a moron, no
> doubt.

HL2 and Steam is not perfect
The difference from most other games is that you can make it better
with a little work from your side
Try running the validate command
steam://validate/320

Steam has a lot of options you have to learn a little along the road

- Peter
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 2:28:12 AM

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On 5 Jul 2005 12:28:01 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Try deleting the clientregistry.blob file (or rename it)

Doesn't work. When I disable my conn, first Steam says it can't
connect, and I get the option to retry or play on offline mode. I
choose offline mode, then when HL2 is s'posed to launch, I get "This
operation cannot be completed when Steam is in offline mode."

>What kind of internet connection do you have?

2200/640 ADSL
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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 2:30:12 AM

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:20:22 GMT, Bert Byfield
<BertByfield@nospam.not> wrote:

>I can never play the game without an online connection. From what I have
>read, Steam/Sierra insists on this arrangement. No exceptions. The answer
>is to look for "internet access required" on the box and don't buy such
>games.

Well, if they don't fix this, I've bought my last Valve game, that's
for damn sure
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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 2:30:13 AM

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Nothing needs to be fixed except for you... It works fine off line for
me and most other folks.... You have a problem not Valve....

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:30:12 +0200, Griper Homely
<gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:20:22 GMT, Bert Byfield
><BertByfield@nospam.not> wrote:
>
>>I can never play the game without an online connection. From what I have
>>read, Steam/Sierra insists on this arrangement. No exceptions. The answer
>>is to look for "internet access required" on the box and don't buy such
>>games.
>
>Well, if they don't fix this, I've bought my last Valve game, that's
>for damn sure

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
July 6, 2005 3:10:48 AM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On 5 Jul 2005 12:28:01 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Try deleting the clientregistry.blob file (or rename it)
>
> Doesn't work. When I disable my conn, first Steam says it can't
> connect, and I get the option to retry or play on offline mode. I
> choose offline mode, then when HL2 is s'posed to launch, I get "This
> operation cannot be completed when Steam is in offline mode."
>
>>What kind of internet connection do you have?
>
> 2200/640 ADSL

Something in your setup is corrupted. Run...

C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220

and this will check your files and if there is anything wrong will correct
it automatically. After that you can play offline as long as you like.
No-one 'has' to go online ever again if they have a working HL2. Those that
say they do just need to fix their installation.
July 6, 2005 3:37:30 AM

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"Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Shawk wrote:
>>
>> C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220
>>
> Shouldn't that be the validate command?
> steam://validate/320
>
> rgds/Peter
>

Quite possibly - couldnt remember it so googled. That's what I came up with
though.

This will *definitely* work

http://tinyurl.com/7uy33

(It's genuine BTW)
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 3:46:28 AM

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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:05:40 GMT, Cannon Fodder
<gonfishn39@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Nothing needs to be fixed except for you... It works fine off line for
>me and most other folks.... You have a problem not Valve....

This just about wraps it up for you, "Cannon Fodder." Since you don't
have a problem with offline mode, the turd-soup between your ears
can't even fathom that the problem may exist for others without it
being thru some fault of their own. You're clinically a moron, no
doubt.
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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 3:46:29 AM

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Well, I guess you told me.... Turns, climbs into his brown jump suit
and wanders off muttering unintelligible things about being a "Delta
Semi-Moron"...

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:46:28 +0200, Griper Homely
<gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:05:40 GMT, Cannon Fodder
><gonfishn39@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Nothing needs to be fixed except for you... It works fine off line for
>>me and most other folks.... You have a problem not Valve....
>
>This just about wraps it up for you, "Cannon Fodder." Since you don't
>have a problem with offline mode, the turd-soup between your ears
>can't even fathom that the problem may exist for others without it
>being thru some fault of their own. You're clinically a moron, no
>doubt.

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 5:40:47 AM

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On 5 Jul 2005 15:15:27 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Shouldn't that be the validate command?
>steam://validate/320

This one worked! Thanks for the help, folks!

This validate command seems like something Punkbuster could've put to
good use too...

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July 6, 2005 5:40:48 AM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On 5 Jul 2005 15:15:27 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Shouldn't that be the validate command?
>>steam://validate/320
>
> This one worked! Thanks for the help, folks!
>
> This validate command seems like something Punkbuster could've put to
> good use too...
>

Nice one Peter. Glad you got it sorted Greger - does offline mode work now?
Was CF right?
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 5:40:49 AM

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Of course, morons are always right... It's too complicated to be
left....

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:53:35 +0100, "Sharks"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:

>
>"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
>news:fd6mc19ra9ucs1cvsach92u2go08tteh7r@4ax.com...
>> On 5 Jul 2005 15:15:27 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be the validate command?
>>>steam://validate/320
>>
>> This one worked! Thanks for the help, folks!
>>
>> This validate command seems like something Punkbuster could've put to
>> good use too...
>>
>
>Nice one Peter. Glad you got it sorted Greger - does offline mode work now?
>Was CF right?
>
>

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
July 6, 2005 5:40:50 AM

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"Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn39@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Of course, morons are always right... It's too complicated to be
> left....
>

S'true.

Gotta ask - the buffalo and the cat n toast generator theories - where did
ya dig them up? That kind of humour is right up my street.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 5:40:51 AM

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I developed, tested and perfected them... They work.....

Actually I don't remember, the Buffalo Theory is working in reverse on
me.... :) 

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:31:44 +0100, "Sharks"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:

>
>"Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn39@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:D 09mc11ah96to2182dls427ab88ghtejii@4ax.com...
>> Of course, morons are always right... It's too complicated to be
>> left....
>>
>
>S'true.
>
>Gotta ask - the buffalo and the cat n toast generator theories - where did
>ya dig them up? That kind of humour is right up my street.
>
>

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 6:03:16 AM

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:53:35 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:

>Glad you got it sorted Greger - does offline mode work now?

Thanks! - and yeah, now it works like a charm

>Was CF right?

I didn't get around to try it. I tried the validate comm first and it
worked, so...

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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 7:30:58 AM

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:31:44 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:

>S'true.

With "CF," did you mean "Cannon Fodder"? OK, you tell me: Do *I* need
to be "fixed" cuz something in my install's gotten corrupted along the
way? If offline mode doesn't work on my comp, is it my problem, "not
Valve's"? Please explain your answers.

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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 7:30:59 AM

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Because you screwed up your install is certainly not a reason to blame
Valve for an excellent upgrading and patching system.... You,
obviously, wasn't around with HL when the group was deluged with "What
patch do I need now" questions.... I KNOW they have created a great
system..... Don't forget the bitches about "It's a three hour queue at
Filepanet to down load it....

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:30:58 +0200, Grayer HO
<gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:31:44 +0100, "Shawk"
><shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>
>>S'true.
>
>With "CF," did you mean "Cannon Fodder"? OK, you tell me: Do *I* need
>to be "fixed" cuz something in my install's gotten corrupted along the
>way? If offline mode doesn't work on my comp, is it my problem, "not
>Valve's"? Please explain your answers.

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
July 6, 2005 2:32:12 PM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:31:44 +0100, "Shawk"
> <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>
>>S'true.
>
> With "CF," did you mean "Cannon Fodder"? OK, you tell me: Do *I* need
> to be "fixed" cuz something in my install's gotten corrupted along the
> way? If offline mode doesn't work on my comp, is it my problem, "not
> Valve's"? Please explain your answers.
>

Greger,

I hope you become a regular in here. If you do you will find a lot of
people coming along and slating Valve and HL2 and claiming that their
installation doesnt work or 'must' connect every time they play or every
month. Talking BS before exploring the truth.

It normally turns out to be a problem with their installation or PC. It is
annoying. Hopefully you are now one of the people for whom offline mode
works fine as CF (Cannon Fodder) says. Yeah, he could have couched it in
better terms but the problem 'was' with you (your installation) wasn't it,
it was your problem and not something that Valve did.

Like I said - glad you got it sorted. Have a good one. Shawk.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 9:27:38 PM

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:32:12 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:

>I hope you become a regular in here.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think so. Something very
similar happened when I inquired about HL1 some time ago. Now that I
think about it, I think it was the same retard who started mouthing
off then too. But I digress... I can't stand that 'no criticism of my
game allowed' zealotry that seems permeate this group (as well as many
others, sure).

>If you do you will find a lot of
>people coming along and slating Valve and HL2 and claiming that their
>installation doesnt work or 'must' connect every time they play or every
>month. Talking BS before exploring the truth.

Huh? If it ain't working, it ain't working. That's not BS. Sure you
can research the problem yourself and give your PC a full checkup
before you ask others what the problem might be, but that's not a very
effective way to solve problems, is it? In this case, the validate
command isn't even mentioned on Steam's FAQ. In this case, there is no
way in hell anybody no emplyed by Valve could have fixed whatever was
wrong, barring a full reinstall.

>It normally turns out to be a problem with their installation or PC. It is
>annoying. Hopefully you are now one of the people for whom offline mode
>works fine as CF (Cannon Fodder) says. Yeah, he could have couched it in
>better terms but the problem 'was' with you (your installation) wasn't it,
>it was your problem and not something that Valve did.

Was it? Did you read my response? How the bloody hell can he (and now
you, it seems) *know* that the fault is on my end in this case? Have
you never heard of bugs that only appear under special conditions? To
a retard like Cannon Fodder, it's enough that offline mode works on
his and most of his playmates comps for him to *know* that if it
doesn't work on anybody else's comp, it *must* be their own bloody
fault. Don't you see how mindnumbingly stupid that is?

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July 6, 2005 9:33:26 PM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:32:12 +0100, "Shawk"
> <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>
>>I hope you become a regular in here.
>
> I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think so. Something very
> similar happened when I inquired about HL1 some time ago.

Sorry to hear that
>
>>If you do you will find a lot of
>>people coming along and slating Valve and HL2 and claiming that their
>>installation doesnt work or 'must' connect every time they play or every
>>month. Talking BS before exploring the truth.
>
> Huh? If it ain't working, it ain't working. That's not BS.

Sorry - not what I was referring to. The BS I meant was from DaNewsreader
who unhelpfully gave you duff advice. When released HL2 did want to phone
home regularly but valve issued a patch to correct that shortly after. It
shouldn't do it now provided you are patched to date (and you will be after
verifying your files).

In this case, the validate
> command isn't even mentioned on Steam's FAQ. In this case, there is no
> way in hell anybody no emplyed by Valve could have fixed whatever was
> wrong, barring a full reinstall.

It's at the second link I gave you but no it isn't obvious on the site and
your comment is a vindication for groups like this who have folk that can
help.

>
>>It normally turns out to be a problem with their installation or PC. It
>>is
>>annoying. Hopefully you are now one of the people for whom offline mode
>>works fine as CF (Cannon Fodder) says. Yeah, he could have couched it in
>>better terms but the problem 'was' with you (your installation) wasn't it,
>>it was your problem and not something that Valve did.
>
> Was it? Did you read my response? How the bloody hell can he (and now
> you, it seems) *know* that the fault is on my end in this case?

If offline mode works for the majority of people normal troubleshooting says
look somewhere else first. In this case your installation. By your own
admission ("this one worked - thanks for your help folks") you had issues
that were resolved by validating the installation - that means you had a
corrupt file or two your end. It isn't an insult - it happens.

You dont really still think the issue wasn't your end do you. CF just wound
you up.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 10:22:06 PM

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:14:13 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:


>
>Simple matter of pepper-spray on the butter

pml
but my cats are not pleased.

dr ratt

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July 6, 2005 11:20:41 PM

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"Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Shawk wrote:
>
>> When released HL2 did want to phone home regularly but
>> valve issued a patch to correct that shortly after.
>> It shouldn't do it now provided you are patched to date
>> (and you will be after verifying your files).
>>
> Hmm I think we have agreed that Steam turns on autoupdate on a frequent
> basis?
> They haven't solved that one yet I think
> I can give it a try and see what happens
>
> - Peter
>

Despite the patch that claims to cure that? I didnt know that. You think
it is time based or usage based - if time based I can block through the
firewall to test but if usage based I'm not currently using Steam often
enough to test it.

If true I'll have a few apologies to make.

Shaun
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 1:51:51 AM

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That's why I get paid the big bucks to hang around here.... Every
group needs their resident retard.... :) 


On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:33:26 +0100, "Shawk"
<shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:


>You dont really still think the issue wasn't your end do you. CF just wound
>you up.
>

--


"The Buffalo Theory"


A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest
buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest
and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This
natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because
the general speed and health of the whole group keeps
improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as
fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
alcohol, as we know, kill brain cells. But naturally,
it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.
In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the
weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter
after a few beers.
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 4:28:53 AM

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"Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hmm I think we have agreed that Steam turns on autoupdate on a frequent
> basis?
> They haven't solved that one yet I think
> I can give it a try and see what happens

It has never done that to me, since the early patch that removed that
requirement. I left it 3 months once, and it still played perfectly fine
offline. What buggers it up is being connected when you start Steam. If it
ever has the opportunity to compare its installation with "Head Office", it
won't run until you have fully updated it again. Auto-update doesn't switch on,
but it now knows you don't have a full installation, which isn't allowed. I'm
sure this is the root of most reported problems. If you don't play multiplayer,
always disconnect before starting Steam and you won't have a problem.

--
Paul
Anonymous
July 8, 2005 3:42:16 AM

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Greger Hoel wrote:

> Yes, but why does it happen? Since you seem to be adamant that Valve
> ain't to blame for this corruption, can you tell me what I and/or my
> comp has done wrongly to cause this, no?
>
Haven't you ever experienced downloading a file from th internet to
find it was corrupt?
Never heard about package losses on the network?

Not one single person has come to this group with severe problems with
HL2 and/or Steam has unresolved problems caused by HL2/Steam after we
have helped
In every case it was a local issue

Believe it or not

Please give this article some consideration
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

- Peter
Anonymous
July 8, 2005 10:31:24 AM

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Greger Hoel wrote:

> Oh, so you didn't notice that I was attacked first, did you?

CF replied on this:
"Well, if they don't fix this, I've bought my last Valve game, that's
for damn sure"
I am quite positive that you are NOT going to deny that you wrote this?

Well it turned out the problem was already addressed in the latest
versions of Steam/HL2 didn't it?

Btw the linked article does not only give suggestion on how to forward
a question on usenet but also gives advices on how to NOT start a
flamewar

Over to you
July 8, 2005 12:48:15 PM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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You're dont seem to be listening. Perhaps you are but you just cant
understand what is being said.

It wasn't that your PC isn't fully functional, it wasn't that you bungled
something along the way. It was a corrupt file in your installation that
was fixed easily by the method you were advised on and that you tried.
Corrupt files happen and no-one is blaming you personally nor your precious
PC for that either.

Did you troll CPMA too?
Anonymous
July 8, 2005 7:14:55 PM

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On 7 Jul 2005 23:42:16 -0700, "Peter [AGHL]" <peter.aghl@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Haven't you ever experienced downloading a file from th internet to
>find it was corrupt?
>Never heard about package losses on the network?

Yep. So if I were to design a network app like Steam, I would make it
check the integrity of the client's files sufficiently to not makle
offline mode such a hassle for so many users. And I wouldn't configure
my app to phone home by default, to begin with.

>Not one single person has come to this group with severe problems with
>HL2 and/or Steam has unresolved problems caused by HL2/Steam after we
>have helped

What does that have to with it? Just because issues can be fixed, does
it vindicate a buggy product, or mean that it wasn't really buggy to
begin with?

>In every case it was a local issue
>
>Believe it or not

That's not the issue here. The issue is if this happened because of a
bug, or weakness in how Steam handles this stuff. Shawk insists that
it's not because of a bug. Cannon Fodder prolly doesn't know his head
from his arse, but was zealously sure that nothing could be wrong on
Steam/HL2's end, so he attacked me when I had the gall to imply that
this could indeed be because of a bug or weakness in Steam/HL2.

My point, ever since that retard attacked me, is that from what we
already know, we can't know if the network, file system, inept user(s)
*or* Steam/HL2 is at fault here.

>Please give this article some consideration
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Oh, so you didn't notice that I was attacked first, did you?
Don't worry. though, I'll leave now. This doesn't seem like a good
hangout for people who're not HL zealots.
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July 8, 2005 9:48:16 PM

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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:48:15 +0100, "Shawk"
> <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote:
>
>
> Wow. Really. Here I was, thinking that there still might be a tiny
> chance that we're just misunderstanding each other, but here you come
> and put the final proof on the table. You're a moron too. Well, thanks
> for clarifying.

No problem. Please call again.
!