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Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:04:01 AM

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The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some video
on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.

I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP Sp2.

I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows detects
the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".

I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
precious little on connecting to a PC.

I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
drivers for my board.

I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
camcorder.

Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP to
"recognize" it?

I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is. That's the
issue.

Any help will be appreciated.
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:57:45 PM

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dgarlett Wrote:
> The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> video
> on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
>
> I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP
> Sp2.
>
> I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> detects
> the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
>
> I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> precious little on connecting to a PC.
>
> I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> drivers for my board.
>
> I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> camcorder.
>
> Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP
> to
> "recognize" it?
>
> I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is.
> That's the
> issue.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.

dgarlett,
Not to make lite of you situation, but I have been trying to help
people with these kinds of problem for month's, will little help from
MS. (denial is not a river in Egypt)
This was posted yesterday in 'XP SP2 General XP Issues or Comments'
(http://tinyurl.com/3wsn9)
"-- Better hardware support: IEEE 1394 works without eating RAM,
Hardware
Specific Fixes for certain hardware devices, USB devices no longer
randomly disappear."
In your case it seems that XP SP2 is a little confused. I have seen the
problem where it couldn't detect the camera, (firewire) but this is news
to me, that XP detects a firewire attachment as usb!
Now before everybody jumps on this post with the following; I'll just
get these questions out of the way.
1. Did you scan for spyware & viruses?
2. Did you download the drivers for firewire? (natively supported by
XP)
3. Do you have the right cable? (ilink) Are you sure it's plugged in?
Is the camera turned on? Are you sure it's a camera & not a toaster?
(read; your an idiot)
4. Did you update your bios & chipset drivers? (um, plausible
reasoning)
5. Do you have all the critical updates for your computer?
6. Are you just making this up to get attention? (you have mental
problems)
7. Anything else not included in the above that doesn't help solve the
problem.

I will look into this and see what I can find out.
Best Wishes & Good Luck,
Treeman


--
Treeman
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:57:46 PM

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lol haha That's awesome. I know exactly what you're talking about there.

1) No spyware/virii. Tried, tested and true.
2) I have installed the latest chipset drivers, but I believe it's using
the XP native.
3) Yes, it's the correct cable.
4) Yes and Yes. Latest bios and chipset drivers.
5) Yes..all critical updates and SP2. (haha maybe that's where I went wrong?)
6) Lot's of mental problems, but not making this up. =P
7) The correct solution and tons of junk emails.

Thanks for help...stepping up to your next post for my reply. =P


"Treeman" wrote:

>
> dgarlett Wrote:
> > The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> > video
> > on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
> >
> > I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP
> > Sp2.
> >
> > I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> > detects
> > the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
> >
> > I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> > precious little on connecting to a PC.
> >
> > I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> > drivers for my board.
> >
> > I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> > camcorder.
> >
> > Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP
> > to
> > "recognize" it?
> >
> > I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is.
> > That's the
> > issue.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
>
> dgarlett,
> Not to make lite of you situation, but I have been trying to help
> people with these kinds of problem for month's, will little help from
> MS. (denial is not a river in Egypt)
> This was posted yesterday in 'XP SP2 General XP Issues or Comments'
> (http://tinyurl.com/3wsn9)
> "-- Better hardware support: IEEE 1394 works without eating RAM,
> Hardware
> Specific Fixes for certain hardware devices, USB devices no longer
> randomly disappear."
> In your case it seems that XP SP2 is a little confused. I have seen the
> problem where it couldn't detect the camera, (firewire) but this is news
> to me, that XP detects a firewire attachment as usb!
> Now before everybody jumps on this post with the following; I'll just
> get these questions out of the way.
> 1. Did you scan for spyware & viruses?
> 2. Did you download the drivers for firewire? (natively supported by
> XP)
> 3. Do you have the right cable? (ilink) Are you sure it's plugged in?
> Is the camera turned on? Are you sure it's a camera & not a toaster?
> (read; your an idiot)
> 4. Did you update your bios & chipset drivers? (um, plausible
> reasoning)
> 5. Do you have all the critical updates for your computer?
> 6. Are you just making this up to get attention? (you have mental
> problems)
> 7. Anything else not included in the above that doesn't help solve the
> problem.
>
> I will look into this and see what I can find out.
> Best Wishes & Good Luck,
> Treeman
>
>
> --
> Treeman
>
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Anonymous
April 13, 2005 9:39:43 PM

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SNIP[/QUOTE Wrote:
>
> dgarlett, Can you be a little more specific on model of NF7 mobo?
> NF7-S
> NF7-M
> NF7-S2
> NF7-S2G
> Chipset - NVIDIA nForce2 SPP chipset with MCP?
>
> Without tearing into the computer, download and run 'Everest Home
> Edition' (http://tinyurl.com/39d24)
> Post back; mobo model, bios .ver, chipset & driver version.
> I didn't see if you can enable onboard firewire in the bios, but double
> check please.
> Thanks,
> Treeman


--
Treeman
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 9:39:44 PM

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Treeman,

Thanks for the consideration as well. You and Graham jumped all over
this...for which I'm appreciative.

I have an effective bypass in the form of an additional PCI host controller
I purchased from CompUSA. Seems to work fine. But I'm still resolute on
figuring out my onboard's issue.

The board I have is an Abit NF7-S v2.0.
Installed is Award bios v6.0 (latest abit had for it).
North Bridge nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400 - Revision C1.
South Bridge nVidia MCP2-T - Revision A3

Nice utility by the way. I could have given the board and bios version, but
would have had to dig a little deeper for the chipset drivers.

I don't recall the exact path in the bios, but I do have the area enabled.
It's in the same location as SATA settings.

Thing I keep going back to is that windows did in fact detect it...it just
had no clue what to do with it. And for some reason was confusing it with a
USB device. I'm thinking it's a driver issue, but hard to prove until I get
it working. lol

Any information you can dig up will be greatly appreciated...I'll be working
on it too and will check back here until I get it resolved. I'll post
whatever I come up with too.

Thanks again for you help.






"Treeman" wrote:

>
> SNIP[/QUOTE Wrote:
> >
> > dgarlett, Can you be a little more specific on model of NF7 mobo?
> > NF7-S
> > NF7-M
> > NF7-S2
> > NF7-S2G
> > Chipset - NVIDIA nForce2 SPP chipset with MCP?
> >
> > Without tearing into the computer, download and run 'Everest Home
> > Edition' (http://tinyurl.com/39d24)
> > Post back; mobo model, bios .ver, chipset & driver version.
> > I didn't see if you can enable onboard firewire in the bios, but double
> > check please.
> > Thanks,
> > Treeman
>
>
> --
> Treeman
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 10:27:58 PM

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Are you sure you are using a firewire cable? I have never known wqindows to
mistake a usb connection for a firewire one? Google firewire images and
you'll see what a 4 and 6 pin connection look like.
Firewire drivers are supplied by windows, whereas the usb ones have to be
installed.
Do you have the cam on play and switched to tape, not memory card.

Graham

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
Laird of Glencairn
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"dgarlett" <dgarlett@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:93069ADA-00DB-4BAD-9F3C-C5283DC86F96@microsoft.com...
> The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
video
> on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
>
> I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP Sp2.
>
> I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
detects
> the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
>
> I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> precious little on connecting to a PC.
>
> I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> drivers for my board.
>
> I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> camcorder.
>
> Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP to
> "recognize" it?
>
> I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is. That's
the
> issue.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 10:27:59 PM

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Graham,

First, thanks a quick reply. It's nice to have people interested in
assisting others.

I'm very certain it's a firewire cable and port that I'm connecting through.
Windows identifies the device as an "OHCI Complian IEEE 1394 Host
Controller". (Also, to the best of my understanding there's no USB hookup on
my camcorder either...=) )

After downloading and installing the last bios and chipset drivers, I began
to suspect the onboard firewire/drivers. I stopped by my local CompUSA and
picked up a CompUSA branded host controller. Works like a charm.

I'm feeling fairly certain it's got something to with the Abit chipset
drivers & XP. The new card I purchased has a VIA chipset, btw. That's the
only difference I could see that makes sense.

I will keep tinkering to see if I can find a resolution with oboard
firewire. And if I do find anything more, I'll post it here for all who may
have this issue.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

> Are you sure you are using a firewire cable? I have never known wqindows to
> mistake a usb connection for a firewire one? Google firewire images and
> you'll see what a 4 and 6 pin connection look like.
> Firewire drivers are supplied by windows, whereas the usb ones have to be
> installed.
> Do you have the cam on play and switched to tape, not memory card.
>
> Graham
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> Laird of Glencairn
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "dgarlett" <dgarlett@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:93069ADA-00DB-4BAD-9F3C-C5283DC86F96@microsoft.com...
> > The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> video
> > on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
> >
> > I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP Sp2.
> >
> > I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> detects
> > the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
> >
> > I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> > precious little on connecting to a PC.
> >
> > I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> > drivers for my board.
> >
> > I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> > camcorder.
> >
> > Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP to
> > "recognize" it?
> >
> > I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is. That's
> the
> > issue.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 10:27:59 PM

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Graham,

First, thanks for such a prompt response here. It's nice to know there
are people happy to assist others.

I'm certain it's a firewire connection. I do know the difference between
the cables and adapters. It's detected in Device Manager as "OHCI Compliant
IEEE 1394 Host Controller" To the best of my understanding this camcorder
does not have a USB interface.

After installing the latest bios and chipset drivers I began to suspect a
issue between the onboard firewire drivers and XP. I went to my local
CompUSA and purchased a CompUSA branded host controller, it did come with
it's own 4-6 cable. Works like a champ. I haven't tested the 4-6 pin cable
out that came with the camcorder itself...but due to the fact that it was
detected in windows and just not recognized, I felt this wasn't the likely
culprit.

The new card I purchased has a VIA chipset, this is the only difference that
really sticks out to me.

I'm new to firewire that's why I asked if the camcorder itself had a
specific driver it needed (similar to some USB devices if they aren't
nativelly supported in XP). I assumed it was a similar relationship.

I plan to keep working at this issue with the onboard firewire and will post
my findings here. Perhaps I'll save someone some headaches in the future.
I'm happy I've got a functional solution for the moment though.

Any further suggestions would be appreciated and thanks again for your time
here. =)



"Graham Hughes" wrote:

> Are you sure you are using a firewire cable? I have never known wqindows to
> mistake a usb connection for a firewire one? Google firewire images and
> you'll see what a 4 and 6 pin connection look like.
> Firewire drivers are supplied by windows, whereas the usb ones have to be
> installed.
> Do you have the cam on play and switched to tape, not memory card.
>
> Graham
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> Laird of Glencairn
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "dgarlett" <dgarlett@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:93069ADA-00DB-4BAD-9F3C-C5283DC86F96@microsoft.com...
> > The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> video
> > on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
> >
> > I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP Sp2.
> >
> > I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> detects
> > the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
> >
> > I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> > precious little on connecting to a PC.
> >
> > I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> > drivers for my board.
> >
> > I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> > camcorder.
> >
> > Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP to
> > "recognize" it?
> >
> > I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is. That's
> the
> > issue.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 10:27:59 PM

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lol Please forgive the additional posting. The page error out after I
clicked "post". So I retyped it. Hence, 2.



"Graham Hughes" wrote:

> Are you sure you are using a firewire cable? I have never known wqindows to
> mistake a usb connection for a firewire one? Google firewire images and
> you'll see what a 4 and 6 pin connection look like.
> Firewire drivers are supplied by windows, whereas the usb ones have to be
> installed.
> Do you have the cam on play and switched to tape, not memory card.
>
> Graham
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> Laird of Glencairn
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "dgarlett" <dgarlett@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:93069ADA-00DB-4BAD-9F3C-C5283DC86F96@microsoft.com...
> > The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> video
> > on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
> >
> > I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP Sp2.
> >
> > I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> detects
> > the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
> >
> > I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> > precious little on connecting to a PC.
> >
> > I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> > drivers for my board.
> >
> > I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> > camcorder.
> >
> > Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP to
> > "recognize" it?
> >
> > I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is. That's
> the
> > issue.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
Anonymous
April 14, 2005 5:47:44 AM

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SNIP[/QUOTE Wrote:
>
> Hi dgarlett,
> Here's the driver solution for SP2;
>
> Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out
> the
> following files
> SBP2port.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache
> 1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers
> enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers
>
> Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call
> "Firewirefix," (without quotes)
>
> Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by:
> Renaming the XP2.cab file to (e.g. to XP2old.cab)
>
> Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe
> mode.
>
> Go to device manager for your ohci firewire card and update SP2 drivers
> to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message normal)
> Reboot.
> Your mileage may vary,
> Treeman


--
Treeman
Anonymous
May 14, 2005 3:48:01 AM

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A new version of Sbp2port.sys was made available by MS on 15 April 2005.
Have a look at the knowledge base article.
Article ID : 894480
Last Review : April 19, 2005
Revision : 1.0
gav

"dgarlett" wrote:

> lol haha That's awesome. I know exactly what you're talking about there.
>
> 1) No spyware/virii. Tried, tested and true.
> 2) I have installed the latest chipset drivers, but I believe it's using
> the XP native.
> 3) Yes, it's the correct cable.
> 4) Yes and Yes. Latest bios and chipset drivers.
> 5) Yes..all critical updates and SP2. (haha maybe that's where I went wrong?)
> 6) Lot's of mental problems, but not making this up. =P
> 7) The correct solution and tons of junk emails.
>
> Thanks for help...stepping up to your next post for my reply. =P
>
>
> "Treeman" wrote:
>
> >
> > dgarlett Wrote:
> > > The issue I'm having is I recently purchased a DCR-TRV120. I have some
> > > video
> > > on tape I'd like to try copying to the PC.
> > >
> > > I have a Abit NF7 board which has Firewire onboard. I am using WinXP
> > > Sp2.
> > >
> > > I connect the camcorder via Firewire cable (4pin - 6pin) and windows
> > > detects
> > > the device, but returns the error; "USB device not recognized".
> > >
> > > I have read the owners manual for the camera from end to end, there's
> > > precious little on connecting to a PC.
> > >
> > > I have been to Abit's website and have downloaded/installed the latest
> > > drivers for my board.
> > >
> > > I still recieve "USB Device Not Recognize" when I try to connect the
> > > camcorder.
> > >
> > > Is there a specific driver I need to install for my camera to get XP
> > > to
> > > "recognize" it?
> > >
> > > I know it see that's it's connected, but has no clue what it is.
> > > That's the
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > dgarlett,
> > Not to make lite of you situation, but I have been trying to help
> > people with these kinds of problem for month's, will little help from
> > MS. (denial is not a river in Egypt)
> > This was posted yesterday in 'XP SP2 General XP Issues or Comments'
> > (http://tinyurl.com/3wsn9)
> > "-- Better hardware support: IEEE 1394 works without eating RAM,
> > Hardware
> > Specific Fixes for certain hardware devices, USB devices no longer
> > randomly disappear."
> > In your case it seems that XP SP2 is a little confused. I have seen the
> > problem where it couldn't detect the camera, (firewire) but this is news
> > to me, that XP detects a firewire attachment as usb!
> > Now before everybody jumps on this post with the following; I'll just
> > get these questions out of the way.
> > 1. Did you scan for spyware & viruses?
> > 2. Did you download the drivers for firewire? (natively supported by
> > XP)
> > 3. Do you have the right cable? (ilink) Are you sure it's plugged in?
> > Is the camera turned on? Are you sure it's a camera & not a toaster?
> > (read; your an idiot)
> > 4. Did you update your bios & chipset drivers? (um, plausible
> > reasoning)
> > 5. Do you have all the critical updates for your computer?
> > 6. Are you just making this up to get attention? (you have mental
> > problems)
> > 7. Anything else not included in the above that doesn't help solve the
> > problem.
> >
> > I will look into this and see what I can find out.
> > Best Wishes & Good Luck,
> > Treeman
> >
> >
> > --
> > Treeman
> >
May 15, 2010 2:30:28 PM

I had this exact problem just a few minutes ago with my Abit IP-35 Pro board. It turns out that I had plugged the firewire stuff into the usb headers on the motherboard back when I first build my computer a few years ago. Anyone having this strange problem of "USB device not recognized" when plugging in a firewire cable should check to make sure that they correctly connected their firewire port to the onboard firewire headers!

Note: I'm not saying I was trying to plug a firewire cord into a usb port! The connections inside the computer case were messed up (just so that there is no confusion).
!