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Digital VHS Recorder Player Question !!!

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July 23, 2005 2:36:01 PM

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Has anyone had experience with a D-VHS recorder player. I am looking
specifically at the JVC HM-DH4000 device. I would be using this as the
playback device for VHS tapes that I want to transfer to my computer. I am
not familiar with the D-VHS format. How expensive are the tapes and is it
better or worse than a DVD recorder for recording from my satelite dish. For
playing back my old VHS tapes, it has the JVC Digipure Technology which has
Time Base Corrector, 3-Dimensional Digital Circuit with Frame Memory, Digital
YNR/CNR, and Precise Digital 3-D Y/C Separation. I was looking at just
purchasing just a standard S-VHS Recorder for playback, but to get a standard
unit with some onboard filtering, I was going to pay as much as I would spend
for the D-VHS unit.
I am inputing into an Avermedia M-150 TV Tuner card and capturing into Movie
Maker to begin with. I tried using just a cheap Toshiba (new) VHS/DVD combo
unit, but its SVideo output did not carry the VHS signal. I had to use the
component output and send it through a Radio Shack Analog to Digital
Converter that changed it to SVideo for input into the M-150 card. The
captured video was ok in places, but in some places the video had distortion
that was not in the orginal tapes.
I have been given several suggestions that may resolve my problems.
1- Improve the quality of the analog signal. (S-VHS player and filters)
2- Input through a digital camcorder with pass through capability into the
firewire port.
3- Get a better capture card.
4- Get better capture and editing software.
I am thinking of starting with a better player. What are your opinions and
which other steps would you take?

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July 25, 2005 8:05:01 AM

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Thanks for responding Treeman, maybe Graham will chime in. If not, I will ask
him directly. Am interested in anyone's opinion or experience as I am brand
new to this. Thanks again.

"Treeman" wrote:

> Big Mac,
> This is the fellow to ask;
> 'Graham Hughes' (
> He's been around long enough to answer all your questions. (grin)
> Best,
> Treeman
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September 1, 2005 1:33:16 AM

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Hey Big Mac!
Just tuned in to this group, so this will be a late response
to your last message. I'm no techie by a long shot, but was saddened
by your loss and DO have the identical 825GM machine, so I'll put in
my two cents for what it's worth. I'm going to go 'stream of
consciousness' here, so please bear with me. Don't know what your
mindset is about your valuable tapes; my first non-tech thoughts
were: Have you duplicated them, either by yourself or professionally?
Haven't looked, but I would guess that a VHS machine that physically
copies one tape to a second blank would not be a very expensive
proposition these days. Wouldn't think that having it done
professionally would be that extravegant either, although you might
want to do this one tape at a time just to be safe. On the slightly
more technical side my first thought was that you may or may not want
to ultimately create an artistically-done DVD for family and loved
ones, but as a relative newcomer to this sort of endeavor (and I'm
right with you on that score) my immediate focus would be on copying
your tapes to your machine any and all ways possible, just to quickly
have something to work with. Once you've done this I'm sure the
helpful and knowledgeable people who've already responded to your
messages could be of great help. Finally, the tech (low) advice. The
things you were trying to do sounded so complicated to me that at the
risk of sounding stupid I'm going to tell you what I did to copy tapes
on the off-chance any part of it is of use. I have my cable service
connected directly to the M150 tuner. I unplugged the coax cable from
the tuner and connected another directly from the coax output on my
cheapie VHS machine to the same cable input on the tuner. To record
the tape to the computer I went into Media Center and hit the
appropriate buttons (probably 'My TV' followed by 'Live TV') just as
if I wanted to watch TV on my system. The appropriate channel for
getting the output from the VCR was selected (on the keyboard) by
making sure Num Lock was on and hitting 03 (in my case) on the numeric
keypad. At this point Media Center is ready to go and you should be
seeing whatever typical noise you might see from your VCR when nothing
is playing. You should now be able to put a tape in your player and
start and view it normally. (Please don't be over eager and do any of
these things with your important tapes! Experiment like crazy for
days with tapes of bad movies or whatever.) To record the tape onto
the computer simply follow the Media Center instructions for making a
manual recording. To the best of my knowledge this just means to hit
the record button on your screen anytime you want to start recording.
You can do this before you even insert the tape into your player or do
it at any point while the tape is already playing. As a very simple
and very "Manual" technique you'll also have to hit 'stop' when you
get to the end of your tape. (A little bit of effort, but a simple
no-mess no-fuss low-cost starting point.) My results had excellent
quality for replaying on the computer. I probably can't be of any
help beyond this; haven't tried recording these files to DVD yet.
Also, you're probably going to want to record at the highest quality
level (recording quality can be set under 'Settings' in Media Center),
and this causes two problems. One, you're going to use an awful lot
of hard drive space (takes me about 1.5 GB to record a half-hour
television program) so make sure you have the room. Second problem is
that one can only get so much recording time on a DVD, so if you have
two-hour VHS tapes recorded onto the computer the transfer to DVD will
probably be tricky at best. I'll have to refer you to the experts on
that one. You can set the recording quality slightly lower if you'd
like to make a computer recording that will fit on one DVD. This
would allow you to make an archive of your tapes where you'd have the
simplicity of one DVD for each one of your VHSs, but you'd probably
want separate highest-quality computer recordings for your final
products. (It's a little strange for those of us who've been around a
while that with this technology you can't just set the recording
time/speed when you make a DVD; you have to anticipate what you're
going to need when you make the recording to be recorded!) Hope some
of this has been useful; good luck with your project.