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December 22, 2011 4:15:07 AM

I have not had any issues and got both retail and online versions.
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December 22, 2011 4:15:48 AM

I'm sure EA will do the most they can to take care of their customers...
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December 22, 2011 4:54:56 AM

I will wait a few months until all this is resolved, and then maybe give it a go. As for all the Origin problems same thing happened with the Back to Karkand DLC that came out for BF3. Thankfully I have had 0 issues with it.
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December 22, 2011 5:02:29 AM

I haven't had any of those issues, but I find the game incredibly tedious and the combat slow and terrible. So much so that after rolling a Sith Warrior, and a Republic Trooper both to level 14 I am quitting. The combat system seems to get delayed and you end up hitting attack buttons but getting 0 visual feedback for it, and it feels so slow; and after awhile its not fun anymore.

Then it takes forever to do anything as you spend countless minutes just walking back and forth. The ripped straight from Mass Effect in game cut scene bad/good quest elements are fun at first, but after the first 10 or so levels I stop caring about it, because I realize I'm listening to 3min of dialog to just go kill 10x or loot 5y from mob Z. The cool story parts make up like an hour of the 12-14 hours I put in on both of those characters.

Then you have the idiotic things the game won't let you do like disable the Auto Camera rotate. Because god forbid when you are on auto-run for 10 min in a straight line you want to be able to look around you without holding down the right mouse button. Or turn on Anti Aliasing; the graphics look rather poor without being able to turn AA on, might as well be an Xbox game. Or have an effective UI that shows your health and your opponents health, and the nameplates that pop up when you get near an opponent, not just when you attack them, and so on and so forth.

I wish I could get a refund.

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December 22, 2011 5:16:55 AM

@stm1185, see pic above, near title. hehe j/k you are right on all points, but I think most of your issues could be patched over. Cut'em a little slack.
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December 22, 2011 5:27:18 AM

sceen311I'm sure EA will do the most they can to take care of their customers...


I'm sure the Bioware will do the most they can to take care of their customers....

fixed* because in my experience EA doesn't care about you after they have your money

With that being said there are very few problems with this game. Compare it to any other MMOG release.
Swtor has fewer bugs (35 hours and I haven't found one) and is more stable than WoW in its 6th year (performance is rock solid, no hang-ups or lag at all)

As a side note, Swtor does not require Origin to either install or run. Bioware/Swtor.com provide the install files so the only connection it actually has to Origin is that you can buy it from the Origin store and if you choose to (dont know why anyone would) you can access it via the Origin launcher.
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December 22, 2011 5:58:03 AM

My opinion: Game is horrible. Unless you're a die-hard SW fan, do NOT waste your money.
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December 22, 2011 6:12:56 AM

I bought the game online from Orgin. I had no problems with getting codes. I got into the servers pretty good. I did have a wait time the first day about 10 minutes. Today I had no wait time. Love the game. The voice overs are one of the best jobs that I have encountered in a very long time. There is almost always going to be a few problems with launch titles. All and all, really good game.
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December 22, 2011 6:13:56 AM

The game should be free to play.
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December 22, 2011 6:19:17 AM

stm1185I haven't had any of those issues, but I find the game incredibly tedious and the combat slow and terrible. So much so that after rolling a Sith Warrior, and a Republic Trooper both to level 14 I am quitting. The combat system seems to get delayed and you end up hitting attack buttons but getting 0 visual feedback for it, and it feels so slow; and after awhile its not fun anymore. Then it takes forever to do anything as you spend countless minutes just walking back and forth. The ripped straight from Mass Effect in game cut scene bad/good quest elements are fun at first, but after the first 10 or so levels I stop caring about it, because I realize I'm listening to 3min of dialog to just go kill 10x or loot 5y from mob Z. The cool story parts make up like an hour of the 12-14 hours I put in on both of those characters.Then you have the idiotic things the game won't let you do like disable the Auto Camera rotate. Because god forbid when you are on auto-run for 10 min in a straight line you want to be able to look around you without holding down the right mouse button. Or turn on Anti Aliasing; the graphics look rather poor without being able to turn AA on, might as well be an Xbox game. Or have an effective UI that shows your health and your opponents health, and the nameplates that pop up when you get near an opponent, not just when you attack them, and so on and so forth.I wish I could get a refund.


I can clearly tell you don't know what you are talking about, and never opened 'Preferences' to customize nameplates, or learned how to auto-run and control the camera with the left mouse button. You played to 14...rofl... You really didn't do anything then.

ben850My opinion: Game is horrible. Unless you're a die-hard SW fan, do NOT waste your money.


Compared to what? It's a lot of fun.

As far as server ques, I dont know why the derps all try to load up on a few servers. There's a ton of them with light loads when others have 2 hr ques. It makes no sense. If people are waiting to get in, its definitely their choice to wait.

All the major issues, like the Taris issue have already been patched. It's Bioware's baby and there's no way they wont tend to matters very quickly.
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December 22, 2011 6:29:56 AM

Just don't complain on the official forums, or you can easily get your account banned by some minimum-wage EA moderator. This means any games you have on Origin no longer work, not even in single player, nothing. But hey, this is supposed to be just like steam, right? /sarcasm
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December 22, 2011 6:30:17 AM

sceen311I'm sure EA will do the most they can to take care of their customers...



Thank you for that. I haven't laughed that hard in a long while.
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December 22, 2011 7:02:05 AM

This is my 9th mmo, queue times are average for a launch so not even worth this reporter pointing out (yawn), the game play is not as visually good as some but bioware never has been good at this. The storylines however are something different and makes the game a nice alternative to other games instead of being WoW in space.

I have not crashed to desktop once, there is no lag in pvp, instances or space combar scenarios that i have seen, and as of yesterday the longest i have had to wait is 20 minutes to get on, so game wise a very good launch.

However the reported issues with account codes not being accepted or incorrectly reporting code already has been used needs to be sorted out quickly, since this has affected several people in our guild.
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December 22, 2011 7:26:15 AM

is it really that hard to take preorders for the game, ship on a first come first serve basis, but spread it out over a 100000 people a week? and treat it like a massive beta, than when you figure your server crap out, roll out in 250000 chunks.

mmo is one of the few things that cant be launched normally.
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December 22, 2011 7:37:41 AM

I bought my CE on Aug 9th from Amazon, got early access on first wave of second day, got my CE on Dec 16th, inputted the code same night as well as activating my security key. I've only had one issue, entered into warzone while jumping off the VIP ledge in the imperial fleet, once I got done with the warzone I was stuck in the table, using /unstuck put me somewhere crazy (could see all the ships from the ground up, floor looked like chess board).

As for those griping regarding visuals, this game was never intended to be, nor promoted to be a graphically superior game in any way. Its focus is on a player driven storyline, which Bioware has done excellently in my opinion. I even like the warzones, which is something I found tedious in WoW.

Bioware takes tremendous amount of pride and puts forth a lot of effort in their work, so expect a fix relatively soon. Also, EA is probably smart enough to realize the earning potential of an MMO. Paying $60 for a game is great, but it's even better when the players are continuously paying $15 a month AND buying expansions AND buying paraphernalia. EA is not going to let this cash cow die before it even has time to mature.

For those of you crying about wanting a refund, you should have dropped five dollars to pre-order the game so you could test it during beta weekend. That's when I ultimately made my decision on whether or not to keep my order.
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Anonymous
December 22, 2011 7:59:26 AM

and this right here is exactly why i hate ea, and bioware are noobs at this. sounds as bad as 20 years ago with the launch of everquest. how pathetic.
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December 22, 2011 8:04:34 AM

mayuThe game should be free to play.

Why? It is rumored that they spent something like $135 MILLION to make this game. Do you think any of the F2P games out there have anywhere near this type of investment? I've played some of the F2P games that have come out, and most are a joke compared to this. I'm not talking about the subscription games that became F2P later on (though SWTOR puts those to shame too); I'm talking about the games that were created and went straight to F2P. Many are little better than Facebook games. And what would you expect? A micro-transaction model might be a solid performer, but you can't expect to see something truly epic built on that paradigm. Much the way that you won't see a Star Wars or Lord of the Rings caliber film ever released at Sundance or Cannes.
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December 22, 2011 8:47:14 AM

intel4evaJust don't complain on the official forums, or you can easily get your account banned by some minimum-wage EA moderator. This means any games you have on Origin no longer work, not even in single player, nothing. But hey, this is supposed to be just like steam, right? /sarcasm

actually, most of the mods are unpaid volunteers, who just like the feeling of power they get playing god on a forum
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Anonymous
December 22, 2011 10:24:43 AM

I feel bad for anyone with problems, but I can say that I got my early access on the 13th, had no issues registering, never a queue more than 10 minutes long, which is during primetime. To me the game is just outstanding, with full voice acting and a universe I enjoy being in. I have played the bulk of the popular MMOs, some might have slightly better graphics or what not, but this is the total package, at least for me. Complete voice acting basically makes it like an MMO of Mass Effect, set in the Star Wars universe. And I don't even watch my level, I just play the story and am enjoying myself a ton.
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December 22, 2011 10:47:39 AM

You guys are aware those long queues actually happen on 3 servers right? I've never had a queue on the heavy load server I play on and most who do have queues don't wait over 15 minutes. Tom makes it sound like everyone waits when its the other way around.

Almost no one has to wait more than 15 minutes, tons of people don't have to wait at all and only the population of 3 servers - which is what 10,000 players maybe 15,000 if you want to be generous - out of the 1,500,000 who reportedly bought the game doesn't sound so bad to me.

As you may know, 1% is not even considered mathematically significant. Yet Tom makes it sound like everyone playing SWTOR suffers terrible queues. Gee.

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December 22, 2011 10:52:39 AM

Anyone bashing this game, especially at LEVEL 14, needs to rethink their logic. I understand that people have opinions, but the game does not suffer from flaws in gameplay. It's fun, intense, and the questing/dialogue actually has a purpose. Not only does it involve you emotionally, but it also helps you build a very, very strong RP role for your character. It implants lines that you can say that would be common in the Star Wars universe for you to reuse in RP conversation with other players, which in turn they will probably read in their head in the voice of your class (if they've played it). I also don't think you need to be a Star Wars fan to enjoy this game. Much like with WoW, I am not a Warcraft RTS fan, but I did enjoy the game for a while -- before it became a recycled breeze.

The voiceover really makes a huge difference, and I actually care about quests, and have not found them tedious yet. Also, I'm not surprised that this game is having launch issues; EA had to involve Origin, which is quite possibly one of the worst online store programs I've run into, not to mention EAs support and care for customers is virtually nonexistant. You're better of pleading directly to the developers on twitter; they'll actually care. The issue will be sorted out nonetheless, I just hope for the player's sake it's soon (because this game is going to be huge!)
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December 22, 2011 11:16:32 AM

go figure...more EA/Origin problems...looks like they failed again...not only did it take them months to fix BF3, now SWTOR. You would think they would learn by now.

EA step it up, jeez
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December 22, 2011 11:33:47 AM

You'd think MMO developers would just DROP THE IDEA OF LOCKING PEOPLE INTO A SINGLE SERVER and go with the Guild Wars style of MMO server structure, where your character logs into any AVAILABLE server in a region and simply connects to their friends and guilds via chat channels and group-based game launching.

But no - everyone wants to hog up a single server and stare at 2 hour queues.

This is why Guild Wars 2 will likely have a smooth launch, so far as server congestion is concerned. ArenaNet knows how to avoid these types of MMO messes.

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December 22, 2011 11:34:16 AM

In other news, Fire found to be hot, and later, water found to be wet.
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December 22, 2011 11:45:56 AM

Well so far I have not had any problems with my Digital copy from Origin, however some people I know have had issues. Although the problem seems to be with Origin. From what I am hearing Origin tech support is blaming the end user and/or, if you get good support, they seem to be having issues 'sending out the codes" (Origins support words).

As for the queue times, yes they do seem high but they seem a bit exaggerated. I am on a very populated server, Exar Kun, and I never waited more than 25 minutes or so.
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December 22, 2011 11:59:47 AM

I've had no trouble with the game at all & am enjoying it quite a bit. I agree that this story makes it sound much worse than it really is. The day of launch the server I started on (early access) ended up being full, but many servers only had "standard" population & had no wait at all. Yesterday I had no trouble getting on that same server. While I'm sure there are people having troubles, this story seems biased & making things sound worse than they really are. Biased news from Tom's Hardware? Nah, couldn't be.
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December 22, 2011 12:14:12 PM

I heard there were queues but I've never had to wait in one, and this is logging in at NA prime time.

Account creation was a pain, but just a little complicated... no actual problems.

The game is great fun and I've only seen really minor bugs.
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Anonymous
December 22, 2011 12:21:21 PM

I purchased the game yesterday evening. Didn't realize I has to purchase an additional subscrtipion even though it comes with first month time. So I have spent the last 2 hours in "waiting queues". Twice now I have gottent to subscription page, selected monthly then BAM get failure before entering information. Back to waiting queues.

Unreal you spend $60 on a game and then have this much aggravation. This will be my last EA/Bioware title. Total ripoff.

Now off to Walmart to rip into them for selling this trash!!
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December 22, 2011 12:33:58 PM

I ordered on Origin. I got my code last Thursday, and entered it immediately with no problems. I have seen a few servers with queue in excess of an hour and a half during peak hours, including mine, but I don't think I ever saw a sever listed that was more than 2. I think whoever is reporting this is taking exagerated statements from upset players. Anyway, the server I have been on has been rock solid. Enough that I wonder why they haven't raised the cap more to lower the queue, but I enjoy my play time in game. There are also a bunch of servers they created on launch day that have plenty of space and no waits. I would recommend this game in a heartbeat to MMO/Star Wars fans
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December 22, 2011 12:41:37 PM

I have had zero technical issues with the game, and I'm also on one of the highest population servers to boot. For the time being, I appreciate the queues because it gets new people to move to less populated servers and once the initial waves are done, I'm hoping they can ramp up server capacity.

I've been in queues for over an hour, but I just plan ahead and login and then go watch TV or get my kid ready for bed so when it's time for me to have some PC time, it's ready to go.

Now if I'm still looking at queues in a few weeks/months, then I will have an issue.
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December 22, 2011 12:42:44 PM

What a non-issue article Toms. And what error codes are they referring too -1 for fail news article :/ 
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Anonymous
December 22, 2011 12:54:44 PM

Its still a smoother launch than Anarchy Online. I remember that one was so bad that they felt they had to offer a *second* free month!
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December 22, 2011 1:10:11 PM

"EA's digital distribution platform Origin is also having issues." - Wait, What?! Origin is having issues?!!? Nnooooo.... it can't be!
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December 22, 2011 1:10:52 PM

I see a lot pf folks accepting the average graphics. To me it looked just like WoW.. 6 year old graphics. There is NO reason to create a game these days with substandard graphics. The game is fun to play irregardless. But I expected way better graphics.
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December 22, 2011 1:20:27 PM

Wait times is only for "FULL" servers while "HEAVY" is perfectly fine and well populated. I remember when I played Aion there were queues but they didn't add new servers. In SWTOR they've added some so let's be grateful about it. I know it sucks to wait but it's only for 10 minutes at the most these now

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December 22, 2011 1:48:32 PM

Funny thing is the codes they are refering to were early access codes from Bestbuy. Secondly server ques are not that bad if any at all due to them raising population caps. And I havent seen any bugs let alone game breaking ones.

And the last paragraph in your article sums it up .....People putting in their early registration codes. If you use the games serial number that you got when you recieve the game or digital version their are no problems. Im sick of companies getting blamed for USER ERROR.

Also another point i want to make....people bitching about graphics. This game looks AWESOME if you have a graphic card to run it. Please take this into account before bitching. I have 2x580's with graphics cranked and it looks awesome. If you are running a sub $200 card and cannot see the details on or using onboard integrated graphics you are in no position to gripe about bad visuals. Its kinda like watching a high def show on a non HD tv then bitching that the show doesnt look good.
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December 22, 2011 1:53:31 PM

SW TOR has been the cleanest MMO launch I've ever seen. And I've played all the major ones at release since EQ1
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December 22, 2011 2:02:47 PM

mimicx10SW TOR has been the cleanest MMO launch I've ever seen. And I've played all the major ones at release since EQ1


Exactly for all the WoW fanbois on here none of them seem to remember the launch. I love/loved WoW but at released servers were down ALOT they even gave people free gametime it was so bad. MMOs take some time to iron out Im glad the people from Toms make it seem like an awful launch, and the beta review was done with someone who maybe put 5 hours into the beta. Reviews should never be biased and SHOULD give a fair interpretation of the game. Not state how some aspects should be improved on and use statements that illustrate the author didnt read forums or actually play that which they complained about.
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December 22, 2011 2:12:20 PM

Pre launch:
I saw server queues over 1 hour for multiple servers.
There was even one time I tried to log in where every server I could see (you cannot scroll to see servers while you are in queue) was either full or very heavy.

Launch day:
I joined my server and I was 917th in line. I was in over an hour later.

1 day after launch:
One time I signed on, I immediately went to my character select screen. No queue. Couldn't believe my eyes. Later that day, signed on again and was around 250 or 260 in line. Not terrible.

BIGGER ISSUES:
Perhaps it was written above, but I did not see it. I can't play now despite having 29 days left on my account. It says that my account is not filled out completely. Upon looking at the website, I see that I have not completed the 5/5 steps. Apparently there is a 2 day grace period for this - and now it is over. In order to complete the 5/5 steps, I need to set up a recurring subscription. I intend on doing this - but why is this required for me to play? What if I only want to play 1 month? Currently I have purchased the game and have 29 days left to play, but I cannot play unless I sign up for additional months. This has the grounds for a class-action lawsuit. You are not letting people play for what they paid for. You are insisting they actually have to pay 2 months (or at the very least sign up and then cancel?) to be able to play 1 month.

I am not happy about this.

Other thoughts:
The game is a lot of fun. A couple thoughts: Flash Points are too short. Warrior Marauders are too weak (for the record, my main is not a Marauder - it's an assassin). Bounty hunter grenades and ranged DPS is a little too high in general.

BioWare / EA need to get their subscription stuff in order though.
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December 22, 2011 2:19:49 PM

FreeseusPre launch:I saw server queues over 1 hour for multiple servers.There was even one time I tried to log in where every server I could see (you cannot scroll to see servers while you are in queue) was either full or very heavy.Launch day:I joined my server and I was 917th in line. I was in over an hour later.1 day after launch:o ne time I signed on, I immediately went to my character select screen. No queue. Couldn't believe my eyes. Later that day, signed on again and was around 250 or 260 in line. Not terrible.BIGGER ISSUES:p erhaps it was written above, but I did not see it. I can't play now despite having 29 days left on my account. It says that my account is not filled out completely. Upon looking at the website, I see that I have not completed the 5/5 steps. Apparently there is a 2 day grace period for this - and now it is over. In order to complete the 5/5 steps, I need to set up a recurring subscription. I intend on doing this - but why is this required for me to play? What if I only want to play 1 month? Currently I have purchased the game and have 29 days left to play, but I cannot play unless I sign up for additional months. This has the grounds for a class-action lawsuit. You are not letting people play for what they paid for. You are insisting they actually have to pay 2 months (or at the very least sign up and then cancel?) to be able to play 1 month.I am not happy about this.Other thoughts:The game is a lot of fun. A couple thoughts: Flash Points are too short. Warrior Marauders are too weak (for the record, my main is not a Marauder - it's an assassin). Bounty hunter grenades and ranged DPS is a little too high in general.BioWare / EA need to get their subscription stuff in order though.


Thankyou for illustrating stupidity and USER ERROR. 1 of the 5 steps which you said you completed 5/5 is setting up a subscription which you later explain you have not done. set up a subscription and you can cancel it immediately if you want. All MMOs work like this and have worked like this. USER ERROR is USER ERROR not the games fault which time and again it gets blamed.
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December 22, 2011 2:24:55 PM

FreeseusPre launch:I saw server queues over 1 hour for multiple servers.There was even one time I tried to log in where every server I could see (you cannot scroll to see servers while you are in queue) was either full or very heavy.Launch day:I joined my server and I was 917th in line. I was in over an hour later.1 day after launch:o ne time I signed on, I immediately went to my character select screen. No queue. Couldn't believe my eyes. Later that day, signed on again and was around 250 or 260 in line. Not terrible.BIGGER ISSUES:p erhaps it was written above, but I did not see it. I can't play now despite having 29 days left on my account. It says that my account is not filled out completely. Upon looking at the website, I see that I have not completed the 5/5 steps. Apparently there is a 2 day grace period for this - and now it is over. In order to complete the 5/5 steps, I need to set up a recurring subscription. I intend on doing this - but why is this required for me to play? What if I only want to play 1 month? Currently I have purchased the game and have 29 days left to play, but I cannot play unless I sign up for additional months. This has the grounds for a class-action lawsuit. You are not letting people play for what they paid for. You are insisting they actually have to pay 2 months (or at the very least sign up and then cancel?) to be able to play 1 month.I am not happy about this.Other thoughts:The game is a lot of fun. A couple thoughts: Flash Points are too short. Warrior Marauders are too weak (for the record, my main is not a Marauder - it's an assassin). Bounty hunter grenades and ranged DPS is a little too high in general.BioWare / EA need to get their subscription stuff in order though.

The needs to setup a subscription is normal. Seen it in every Major MMO... Its the model... nothing unique to Bioware or EA.
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December 22, 2011 2:29:21 PM

envymertThankyou for illustrating stupidity and USER ERROR. 1 of the 5 steps which you said you completed 5/5 is setting up a subscription which you later explain you have not done. set up a subscription and you can cancel it immediately if you want. All MMOs work like this and have worked like this. USER ERROR is USER ERROR not the games fault which time and again it gets blamed.


How is this stupidity or user error?

I simply feel that I shouldn't have to sign up for a second month to be able to play for my first month. And that process is required to play for the first month.

Troll.
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December 22, 2011 2:31:20 PM

envymertFunny thing is the codes they are refering to were early access codes from Bestbuy. Secondly server ques are not that bad if any at all due to them raising population caps. And I havent seen any bugs let alone game breaking ones. And the last paragraph in your article sums it up .....People putting in their early registration codes. If you use the games serial number that you got when you recieve the game or digital version their are no problems. Im sick of companies getting blamed for USER ERROR. Also another point i want to make....people bitching about graphics. This game looks AWESOME if you have a graphic card to run it. Please take this into account before bitching. I have 2x580's with graphics cranked and it looks awesome. If you are running a sub $200 card and cannot see the details on or using onboard integrated graphics you are in no position to gripe about bad visuals. Its kinda like watching a high def show on a non HD tv then bitching that the show doesnt look good.


Hi, it doesnt have an sli profile, i'd suggest putting the 2nd one to sleep for now.
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December 22, 2011 2:31:42 PM

FreeseusHow is this stupidity or user error?I simply feel that I shouldn't have to sign up for a second month to be able to play for my first month. And that process is required to play for the first month.Troll.


I have only played one other mmo - which as wow. When I played wow for the first time, I was able to play the first month and then I was cut off... then I had to pay for a subscription, which I did. I stopped playing a long time ago, so I don't know if it has changed.
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December 22, 2011 2:32:46 PM

doh, quoted the wrong thing... that was a response to graysoniv
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December 22, 2011 2:39:59 PM

I played at the tail-end of beta, and even then I didn't have a lot of technical difficulties getting into the game.

However I didn't buy the game and am not playing it now simply because I didn't like it. Whilst the voice acting and storyline holds a lot of potential, the game is horribly lacking in three key areas for me.

First is character customization. Visually, you are stuck with a handful of presets for your characters appearance, and it's not very long before you run into a dozen clones that look and sound exactly like your character. It's very immersion-breaking seeing your twin standing next to you in a cutscene and you're wondering, "Was that my character that just said something, or this guy next to me?"

Leveling is very formulaic and linear, almost perfectly mirroring the the WoW model. The only deviation is that you don't choose your *true* character profession until level 10. Compared to other MMO's I've played, there's very little flexibility in how you build or customize your character's abilities. Every time you gain a level, you're given no choice on what abilities you get to buy next - most of which are just upgrades to old abilities. The only *choice* you get is you eventually get skill points where you can gain some small specialization with certain abilities, like a 2% increase in healing.

Finally, there's way too many gameplay mechanics that break immersion too much and too frequently for my tastes. I already knew Lightsabers and Blasters would be far less powerful than they are in the movies - even I can understand that there's no easy way to make them feel accurate. Unfortunately there's so much more than just that. There's the aforementioned need to "buy" all of your character skills when you level-up. While this is an established MMO mechanic dating back to EverQuest, it feels completely out-of-place in this game. My other big gripe were the boss fights. Even at low levels you will fight bosses that break the game rules in order to make them challenging to the players. The worst one that stuck-out in my mind were the Level 10 bosses with special "Boss Level" immunities that automatically make then 100% immune to anything other than direct damage and *maybe* some debuffs (where are very limited at that low of level). If it were high-level and/or endgame content, I would be more accepting of this kind of in-game cheating, but not when I'm barely out of the training planet and on my first Flashpoint.
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December 22, 2011 2:48:04 PM

Origin makes this a non-starter for me. I'm glad I didn't waste my money on this game.
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December 22, 2011 2:59:31 PM

graysonivThe needs to setup a subscription is normal. Seen it in every Major MMO... Its the model... nothing unique to Bioware or EA.


Very true and you can cancel before it gets charged. It's the same with all MMO's. I played WOW, Aion, FFXIV (which turned out to be free because it was unpolished) and it's the same with SWTOR.
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December 22, 2011 4:05:45 PM

Seems like the glorious publisher landed themselves in the mud once more. When will EA learn...

I just feel bad for such a good developer as Bioware to have to pair up with EA. Really sad day.
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