Is Sony Vegas 5 just a copy of Sonic Foundry Vegas 4?

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"Brian" <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Are there any major improvements in Sony Vegas 5 or are there just
> extra features?
> An example of a major improvement would be to render a video in a
> shorter time.
>
> Regards Brian
>

Major improvements, just as beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. That
said, here's a quick excerpt from the update manual instructions:

I: Enhancements to video tools

Enhanced Track Motion tools
3D motion and compositing
Video track nesting and nested-track 3D compositing
Keyframable bezier masks
Macromedia® FlashT .swf import
Improved MPEG-2 support
Subtitle time/text export to DVD Architect 2
Transition progress envelopes

II: Enhancements to audio tools

Envelope automation recording
Envelope point thinning
Enhanced punch-in recording
Auto input monitoring
ACID loop support
Improved audio time stretching
Keyboard event pitch shifting
5.1 audio plug-in support for the master bus
Film-style 5.1 surround panning
Real-time downmix monitoring
Bus-to-bus routing
User configurable window layout
Customizable keyboard shortcuts
Media subclips
Real-time A/V event reverse
Global opacity/volume envelope changes
Dragable edit cursor
FX package folders
Enhanced marker support


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"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:54:48 +1200, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >Are there any major improvements in Sony Vegas 5 or are there just
> >extra features?
>
> Features.
>
> >An example of a major improvement would be to render a video in a
> >shorter time.
>
> That would take a faster computer.

If I'm not mistaken, Vegas 5 now supports networked rendering, which speeds
up renders of all kinds dramatically.

Steve King

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> Here, it's a case where even their ~$60 Basic version will render MPEG-2
> files far faster than the MainConcept MPEG encoder Vegas ships --
> what's the point of spending another $300+ on a second, networked computer
> just to bring the rendering times in Vegas down to real-time when a $60
> CCE encoder can do it on a single PC?

On that note, do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
compressing them with Mainconcept? Some of my captures are a little grainy
and the MC MPEG2 encoder doesn't do a great job with grainy video. I seem
to recall CCE having some smoothing options though it's been ages since I
used it....

It certainly would be fantasic if MC supported network compressing - I've
got 3 PCs in my office that would do that nicely.

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Steve Simpson wrote:
>
> do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
> compressing them with Mainconcept? Some of my captures are a little
> grainy and the MC MPEG2 encoder doesn't do a great job with grainy
> video.

There's a thread on the Sony Vegas forum at http://tinyurl.com/48uj7 that
goes through a few techniques that you might find useful for reducing noise.
If that's too much work, the other option is to buy a Canopus ADVC-300.
It's not cheap but apparently it does a fantastic job.

Mike

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"Steve Simpson" <guest@anon.com> wrote in message
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> > Here, it's a case where even their ~$60 Basic version will render
MPEG-2
> > files far faster than the MainConcept MPEG encoder Vegas ships --
> > what's the point of spending another $300+ on a second, networked
computer
> > just to bring the rendering times in Vegas down to real-time when a $60
> > CCE encoder can do it on a single PC?
>
> On that note, do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
> compressing them with Mainconcept? Some of my captures are a little
grainy
> and the MC MPEG2 encoder doesn't do a great job with grainy video. I seem
> to recall CCE having some smoothing options though it's been ages since I
> used it....
>
> It certainly would be fantasic if MC supported network compressing - I've
> got 3 PCs in my office that would do that nicely.
>
>

I thought I read somewhere that Vegas Network Rendering will not render to
MPEG2

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"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
> John wrote:
> > "Steve Simpson" <guest@anon.com> wrote in message
> > news:2podpbFn4vimU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>> Here, it's a case where even their ~$60 Basic version will render
> >>> MPEG-2 files far faster than the MainConcept MPEG encoder Vegas
> >>> ships -- what's the point of spending another $300+ on a second,
> >>> networked computer just to bring the rendering times in Vegas down
> >>> to real-time when a $60 CCE encoder can do it on a single PC?
> >>
> >> On that note, do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
> >> compressing them with Mainconcept? Some of my captures are a little
> >> grainy and the MC MPEG2 encoder doesn't do a great job with grainy
> >> video. I seem to recall CCE having some smoothing options though
> >> it's been ages since I used it....
> >>
> >> It certainly would be fantasic if MC supported network compressing -
> >> I've got 3 PCs in my office that would do that nicely.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I thought I read somewhere that Vegas Network Rendering will not
> > render to MPEG2
>
>
> It will - sort of. According to Sony:
>
> "Certain file formats, such as MPEG-2, AC-3 and MP3 are licensed per
> computer and cannot be used on render-only clients. Additionally, MPEG-2
> can be used for the final output format, but not for rendered segments in
> distributed rendering.
>
> ** If you want to use network rendering with these formats and have a
> multiprocessor computer or a computer with a processor that supports
> Hyper-Threading technology, you can run multiple instances of the render
> service on that computer."
>
> Mike
>

Thanks