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October 14, 2004 9:31:53 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

I set up a router ( Siemens se 505),laptop one ( windows xp prof ) is
connected with a cable,my sons laptop (windows 2000) is connected wireless
..Both works fine.BUT--I just can't get my laptop ( windows xp pro) to
connect wireless.SSID is hidden,WEP key encyption,Mac address for both pc
given to the router.
I tried with and without Windows Wireless Configuration,it just says( after
command,ipconfig/all ),not connected.Can see my wireless network though-but
not connect.Any clue what to do? With SSID visible it worked once,but I
don't want that.
So if there is any advice out there..it would be very much appreciated.
Anna

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October 14, 2004 9:31:54 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

First, make sure your AP and your wireless NIC's have the latest firmware
and drivers.
Next, unhide the SSID and make sure everything connects properly. Does
re-hiding the SSID make the problem re-appear?
If so, it might still be a driver issue.

A couple of things to note about "hidden" SSID's.

- If you are using them, then they are likely not hidden if a hacker wants
to see them.
- Windows tries hidden SSID's "last", so connecting to them may be slower
than to visible SSID's
- Some drivers have had problems connecting to hidden SSID's, so the
experience varies by NIC/driver
(what NIC/driver are you using?)

The way Windows handles hidden SSID's is this:

* It walks through your list of configured networks and tries to connect
to any ones that it can see.
* Then, if it didn't get connected or can't see any visible networks, it
tries each configured network anyway (in case it is hidden).
* It tries to connect by telling the NIC to use specific settings (SSID,
WEP, etc.) for the network.
(at this point, it is up to the NIC to do the actual
association, which is why I think it's a driver issue)
* Windows repeats this process until you are connected - you'll see
balloons letting you know when new networks are visible.

So if everything works with a visible, but not a hidden SSID, it might not
be a Windows problem. On the other hand, if you have a lot of networks
configured, windows is trying them one by one so it may just take a while to
connect - you can try moving the hidden network to the top of your list of
SSID's so it is tried first.

Hiding an SSID doesn't buy any security from hackers and you can use MAC
filtering to block regular people from connecting to your network even if it
is visible. I would recommend making your network visible since it will
improve your connection experience and doesn't hurt security. Even hidden
AP's and their clients are still blasting packets everywhere - it's just
that the beacon packets from the AP don't have an SSID in them. The AP will
still answer to the probe request for the SSID - the probes and responses
will also be visible to hackers.

- Carl

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"Anna" <ca4do@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:uIV0JnTsEHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I set up a router ( Siemens se 505),laptop one ( windows xp prof ) is
> connected with a cable,my sons laptop (windows 2000) is connected wireless
> .Both works fine.BUT--I just can't get my laptop ( windows xp pro) to
> connect wireless.SSID is hidden,WEP key encyption,Mac address for both pc
> given to the router.
> I tried with and without Windows Wireless Configuration,it just says(
> after
> command,ipconfig/all ),not connected.Can see my wireless network
> though-but
> not connect.Any clue what to do? With SSID visible it worked once,but I
> don't want that.
> So if there is any advice out there..it would be very much appreciated.
> Anna
>
>
October 14, 2004 9:31:55 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

Hi
It is a psychological mistake thinking that Switching Off SSID adds
security, the way Wireless works switching it off does not protect you from
anything..
Some Wireless Hardware might not work or become"Quirky" if SSID broadcasting
is not On.
There are better security measures for Wireless.
Wireless - Basic Configuration: http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html

Wireless - Basic: http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html

Jack (MVP-Networking).



"Carl DaVault [MSFT]" <carlda@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:#XqA25XsEHA.3460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> First, make sure your AP and your wireless NIC's have the latest firmware
> and drivers.
> Next, unhide the SSID and make sure everything connects properly. Does
> re-hiding the SSID make the problem re-appear?
> If so, it might still be a driver issue.
>
> A couple of things to note about "hidden" SSID's.
>
> - If you are using them, then they are likely not hidden if a hacker wants
> to see them.
> - Windows tries hidden SSID's "last", so connecting to them may be slower
> than to visible SSID's
> - Some drivers have had problems connecting to hidden SSID's, so the
> experience varies by NIC/driver
> (what NIC/driver are you using?)
>
> The way Windows handles hidden SSID's is this:
>
> * It walks through your list of configured networks and tries to
connect
> to any ones that it can see.
> * Then, if it didn't get connected or can't see any visible networks,
it
> tries each configured network anyway (in case it is hidden).
> * It tries to connect by telling the NIC to use specific settings
(SSID,
> WEP, etc.) for the network.
> (at this point, it is up to the NIC to do the actual
> association, which is why I think it's a driver issue)
> * Windows repeats this process until you are connected - you'll see
> balloons letting you know when new networks are visible.
>
> So if everything works with a visible, but not a hidden SSID, it might not
> be a Windows problem. On the other hand, if you have a lot of networks
> configured, windows is trying them one by one so it may just take a while
to
> connect - you can try moving the hidden network to the top of your list of
> SSID's so it is tried first.
>
> Hiding an SSID doesn't buy any security from hackers and you can use MAC
> filtering to block regular people from connecting to your network even if
it
> is visible. I would recommend making your network visible since it will
> improve your connection experience and doesn't hurt security. Even hidden
> AP's and their clients are still blasting packets everywhere - it's just
> that the beacon packets from the AP don't have an SSID in them. The AP
will
> still answer to the probe request for the SSID - the probes and responses
> will also be visible to hackers.
>
> - Carl
>
> --
> Standard Disclaimers -
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and confers no rights. Please do not send e-mail directly
> to this alias. This alias is for newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
> "Anna" <ca4do@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:uIV0JnTsEHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >I set up a router ( Siemens se 505),laptop one ( windows xp prof ) is
> > connected with a cable,my sons laptop (windows 2000) is connected
wireless
> > .Both works fine.BUT--I just can't get my laptop ( windows xp pro) to
> > connect wireless.SSID is hidden,WEP key encyption,Mac address for both
pc
> > given to the router.
> > I tried with and without Windows Wireless Configuration,it just says(
> > after
> > command,ipconfig/all ),not connected.Can see my wireless network
> > though-but
> > not connect.Any clue what to do? With SSID visible it worked once,but I
> > don't want that.
> > So if there is any advice out there..it would be very much appreciated.
> > Anna
> >
> >
>
>
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