Making your own subtitles??

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I can see lots of guides that tell you how to rip subtitles if you are
ripping DVDs, but no-one seems to cover how you can actually create and
place your own orogonal subtitles.

Anyone had any expereince?

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Several authoring program offer this.

For one I use Adobe Encore which can handle subtitles and offers a menu
selectable choice of 16 languages. You can type your subtitle in a window or
import scripts which are very easy to create in any text editor provided it
can be saved in the correct format that Encore accepts. Formats are
mentioned in the manual. The only thing is to keep track of the various
audio and subtitle tracks.

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> I can see lots of guides that tell you how to rip subtitles if you are
> ripping DVDs, but no-one seems to cover how you can actually create and
> place your own orogonal subtitles.
>
> Anyone had any expereince?
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Well, the process really depends on your authoring software. Hardly
any authoring apps support subtitles, let alone have any decent
support. Ive done it using SubStation Alpha to time and MaestroSBT to
genetate the subtitles for both Scenatist and DVDMaestro. It can be a
headache at times, but I came out with really good subtitles.

ReelDVD looked like it had ok support for subtitles, but I couldnt get
the DVDMaestro Scenarist script to load and Id be damned If I was
going to bother trying to write out my own script... and Encore could
load a text script created by MaestroSBT I believe, but with no
formatting, positing, or colors kept. Screw that!




On 29 Oct 2004 17:21:40 GMT, "POD {Ò¿Ó}" <SMAPTRAP@DEADSPAM.COM>
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>I can see lots of guides that tell you how to rip subtitles if you are
>ripping DVDs, but no-one seems to cover how you can actually create and
>place your own orogonal subtitles.
>
>Anyone had any expereince?
 
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On a sunny day (29 Oct 2004 17:21:40 GMT) it happened "POD {Ò¿Ó}"
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>I can see lots of guides that tell you how to rip subtitles if you are
>ripping DVDs, but no-one seems to cover how you can actually create and
>place your own orogonal subtitles.
>
>Anyone had any expereince?
Yes, if you use windows there is a program SubstationAlpha (subtitle editor),
use that and Virtualdub + subtitle filter to make an AVI.
..ssa files can be used but I dunno if you want to go DVD in windows.


In Linux see my subtitle editor xste,
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/subtitles/

That will work with either transcode for DivX, or mjpegtools for mpeg2
or submux-dvd and all the other tools, see the links on my page.

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> Well, the process really depends on your authoring software. Hardly
> any authoring apps support subtitles, let alone have any decent
> support. Ive done it using SubStation Alpha to time and MaestroSBT to
> genetate the subtitles for both Scenatist and DVDMaestro. It can be a
> headache at times, but I came out with really good subtitles.
>
> ReelDVD looked like it had ok support for subtitles, but I couldnt get
> the DVDMaestro Scenarist script to load and Id be damned If I was
> going to bother trying to write out my own script... and Encore could
> load a text script created by MaestroSBT I believe, but with no
> formatting, positing, or colors kept. Screw that!
>
I had a look at the manual to Scenartist, and it appears to use
overlaying bitmaps, with the script stating the bitmap, it's start time
and finish time. That looks like the kinda subtitles used on the R1
Lord of the Rings trilogy, rather than player generated text, which was
my thought process.


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On 02 Nov 2004 04:01:19 GMT, "POD {Ò¿Ó}" <SMAPTRAP@DEADSPAM.COM>
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>I had a look at the manual to Scenartist, and it appears to use
>overlaying bitmaps, with the script stating the bitmap, it's start time
>and finish time. That looks like the kinda subtitles used on the R1
>Lord of the Rings trilogy, rather than player generated text, which was
>my thought process.

You can use a combination of Substation Alpha to time the file and a
utility called Maestro SBT to generate the actual bitmaps. This only
works for DVD subtitles, though. You didn't say if you wanted to have
them "burned into" the video or not.
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> Ive done it using SubStation Alpha

I see they make a utility called Substation Workshop now, alpha is
defunct..

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> You can use a combination of Substation Alpha to time the file and a
> utility called Maestro SBT to generate the actual bitmaps. This only
> works for DVD subtitles, though. You didn't say if you wanted to have
> them "burned into" the video or not.

No, I'd only have them optional, but It would be nice to avoid player
generated titles.

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On 02 Nov 2004 08:22:23 GMT, "POD {Ò¿Ó}" <SMAPTRAP@DEADSPAM.COM>
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>No, I'd only have them optional, but It would be nice to avoid player
>generated titles.

But the DVD player doesn't generate the subtitles.
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> If there is an actual program called "Substation Workshop", throw me a
> web address so I can give it a try.

http://www.urusoft.net

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