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A couple of questions if I may.
- Is it correct that the serial number of an iPAQ can be read remotely, eg
during a software registration process?
- If yes, are utilities available for running on either the PC or iPAQ that
can spoof the serial #?

Thanks for any help.

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Why would you want to do that?

btw pointers and areas of ROM can often be remapped (to main memory), some
updates/fixes to ROM (eg errors) have been known to do that for machines.
Not sure about the ppc though- the ROMs are EPROM'S usually so could be
rewritten if needed eg OS upgrade that seems to be so important to some
people.
As serial numbers are changed with each machine/chip it must be in some form
of PROM but you'd need an expert on ppc architecture to know whether this is
accessible via your ppc or not.

But why do you want to do it?


"Johno" <nospam@nospam> wrote in message
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> A couple of questions if I may.
> - Is it correct that the serial number of an iPAQ can be read remotely,
eg
> during a software registration process?
> - If yes, are utilities available for running on either the PC or iPAQ
that
> can spoof the serial #?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

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"AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Why would you want to do that?
>

I recall some years back it was revealed that Intel planned to "stamp" a
unique number into each new micropressor in such a way that it could be
read, eg, by web sites visited by the user. There was an outcry over the
privacy invasion implications and Intel backed down (as I recall).

Yesterday when visiting an HP diagnostic page the service attempted to read
information from my iPAQ. On failing to do so (dead iPAQ) it then advised
that I would need to manually type in the model and serial numbers. That
lead me to the conclusion that HP could read the serial number from the
device (if it were live), so what was deemed unacceptable a few years ago
appears to be a reality today.

The reason for enquiring about spoofing the number is mainly because I
resent the fact that this unique number can be read without my permission
and or knowledge. There could be practical uses however. Eg if I register
software with one iPAQ and then later upgrade to a new device, serial number
spoofing could avoid the need to explain to an application provider why I am
installing software licensed for one device onto a second device.

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"Johno" <nospam@nospam> wrote in message
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>
> "AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c8ptoh$ajv$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Why would you want to do that?
> >
>
> I recall some years back it was revealed that Intel planned to "stamp" a
> unique number into each new micropressor in such a way that it could be
> read, eg, by web sites visited by the user. There was an outcry over the
> privacy invasion implications and Intel backed down (as I recall).
>
> Yesterday when visiting an HP diagnostic page the service attempted to
read
> information from my iPAQ. On failing to do so (dead iPAQ) it then advised
> that I would need to manually type in the model and serial numbers. That
> lead me to the conclusion that HP could read the serial number from the
> device (if it were live), so what was deemed unacceptable a few years ago
> appears to be a reality today.
>
> The reason for enquiring about spoofing the number is mainly because I
> resent the fact that this unique number can be read without my permission
> and or knowledge. There could be practical uses however. Eg if I
register
> software with one iPAQ and then later upgrade to a new device, serial
number
> spoofing could avoid the need to explain to an application provider why I
am
> installing software licensed for one device onto a second device.
>
>


The Pentium 3 has a unique number- this can be disabled in most BIOS's.

'serial number spoofing could avoid the need to explain to an application
provider why I am installing software licensed for one device onto a second
device.'
-and open the way to wholesale piracy if everyone just uses the same number.

I think most software publishers are aware that people change machines, and
I haven't heard of any unreasonably denying a licence to a user.

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"AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
>> 'serial number spoofing could avoid the need to explain to an application
>> provider why I am installing software licensed for one device onto a
second
> >device.'
> >-and open the way to wholesale piracy if everyone just uses the same
number.
>
> I think most software publishers are aware that people change machines,
and
> I haven't heard of any unreasonably denying a licence to a user.
>
Perhaps, but I can quote you one that requires a statutory declaration (ie
as sworn in front of a Justice of the Peace etc) that the software has been
deleted from the first device before they will release the key code for use
on the new one. A hassle, and possible some expense as well. Is the
requirement unreasonable? A matter of opinion I suppose. But I can tell
you that if I could avoid it I would, and with a clear conscience.

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"Johno" <nospam@nospam> wrote:

> A couple of questions if I may.
> - Is it correct that the serial number of an iPAQ can be read remotely, eg
> during a software registration process?
> - If yes, are utilities available for running on either the PC or iPAQ that
> can spoof the serial #?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>


You can see the serial number with Asset Viewer, which is found under Settings from the Start menu.

Jon
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