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More info?)
Unfortunately NAT-T only works with a Win2K3 Server on the server side
(or one of the other OSS solutions)...
Jeffrey Randow (Windows Networking & Smart Display MVP)
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:59:36 -0400, "Bill Sanderson"
<Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote:
>Jeffery knows the scoop on Microsoft VPN clients talking to Microsoft
>servers through NATs--I believe it is XP SP2, or many older versions with
>the downloadable VPN client software (www.microsoft.com/vpn) talking to
>Windows Server 2003.
>
>Definitely more information at the above link.
>
>Not helpful in terms of the Netgear host, but just to mention that this is
>an issue all VPN vendors are working hard on.
>
>And, of course, talking about IPSEC vpns not PPTP, which does work fine
>outbound through the average NAT.
>
>"Alex Kalemkeris" <alexk@kalemkeris.net> wrote in message
>news:45-dneGBh88RM6HcRVn-vA@comcast.com...
>> So I broke down and decided to pay for Netgear's support and got my
>> answer. Fortunatley for me, they agreed to not charge me because I found
>> you cannot do it. The build in windows client will work if you have a
>> static IP and you are not behind a NAT. If your behind a NAT and/or with
>> a dynamic IP you need to use their SW solution. Since my company uses the
>> Intel Netstructure client right now, I asked if I could use that in its
>> place (since you can only use one VPN client at a time). He said he
>> didn't know, but was willing to work with me on it. Since I didn't have
>> the time when I was talking to him, nor the ability to test, I optted for
>> the no charge answer.
>>
>> So does anyone know if the Prosafe VPN client plays well with another VPN
>> client software installed? I tried Safenet's which disabled all my
>> network capability and was a pain the xxx to uninstall. They didn't play
>> well together.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
>> news:ukkDiX7kEHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> You need, of course, to be talking to a Netgear support forum.
>>>
>>> I've skimmed through this thread
>>>
>>>
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10053432~mode=flat
>>>
>>> without being clear whether anybody in it has accomplished what you
>>> wanted--it doesn't sound easy--everybody says go with Netgears
>>> proprietary client.
>>>
>>> "J Feely" <J Feely@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8E62A5F3-65DA-45D1-90FE-BA36B81C0D4A@microsoft.com...
>>>>I think I know where Alex is going with his question.
>>>>
>>>> What he is looking for is how to use the XP and 2000 VPN capabilities
>>>> that
>>>> are already built in to the OS. He is not looking to use an external
>>>> VPN
>>>> client software program like Safenet that Netgear has suggested. All of
>>>> Netgears documentations show how to use a VPN client that costs more
>>>> than it
>>>> is worth. Windows should already have the function built in for FREE.
>>>>
>>>> What settings need to be performend on Win to have it act like a client
>>>> and
>>>> attach to a VPN tunnel on the FVS318?? I've tried this myself for over
>>>> a
>>>> year now sice I purchased the unit when it was first launched. So far,
>>>> I
>>>> have never been sucessful. I have even tried Nortel's software which my
>>>> company used with no sucess.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas how to get the Win OS to function as a client would be very
>>>> helpful.
>>>>
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hit send too fast. Also see
>>>>>
http://kbserver.netgear.com/support_details.asp?dnldID=575
>>>>>
>>>>> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>>>>> > Alex Kalemkeris wrote:
>>>>> >> WinXP Client
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Router Host
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hmm - isn't this where I came in? We're sort of back to my first
>>>>> > reply.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
http://www.netgear.com/docs/technotes/MultiVendor/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwh
>>>>> > elp.htm
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> >> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> >> message news:eilQoy8jEHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >>> Which do you want handing the VPN on the host side? Your
>>>>> >>> router/firewall, or
>>>>> >>> your Windows box? You need to pick one....
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Alex Kalemkeris wrote:
>>>>> >>>> I've used the wizard on the Netgear side to setup a IP SEC VPN
>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>> >>>> a pre-shared key
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I've also used the WinXP wizard to setup a VPN, disabled the
>>>>> >>>> login,
>>>>> >>>> and enabled the pre-shared key. It still fails. Do I also have
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> open ports? I've tried opening the ports for an L2TP and PPTP,
>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>> >>>> no luck.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Please understand, I'm very new to this capability, so please bear
>>>>> >>>> with me.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> >>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> >>>> in message news:u%23DLqIRjEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >>>>> Alex Kalemkeris wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something here.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> How does that help me configure my Win2K and XP as a client?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Sorry, you didn't seem to be asking "how do I set up a PPTP
>>>>> >>>>> client" - I misunderstood. You can just use the wizard to make a
>>>>> >>>>> new connection in your clients' network applets - choose VPN.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> What
>>>>> >>>>>> configuration should I use for the netgear?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> You mean in the client? You just specify whatever your public IP
>>>>> >>>>> address is on that network, once you've opened up the ports I
>>>>> >>>>> mentioned in the firewall.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> >>>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com>
>>>>> >>>>>> wrote
>>>>> >>>>>> in message news:OOSfbQEjEHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >>>>>>> OK - open inbound TCP ports 47 and 1723 for PPTP.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex Kalemkeris wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's not actually what I'm trying to do.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to be able to configure my laptops to be able to
>>>>> >>>>>>>> connect
>>>>> >>>>>>>> to my home network (FVS318) via VPN to the Netgear router.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hence the need to have the XP/2000 machines to work as
>>>>> >>>>>>>> clients.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd prefer to use the XP/2000 base clients if possible since
>>>>> >>>>>>>> my
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2000 machine is a work computer using Intel's Netstructure SST
>>>>> >>>>>>>> protocol.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote in message news:uNvxf$4hEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OT, but you do know the Netgear you have supports native
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IPSEC
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VPN, right? Why not offload this function to the Netgear?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Make
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sure you're using the latest firmware on the NetGear and give
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it a go.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you don't want to go that route, you'll need to open the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> requisite ports
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in your firewall: see
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/20274/20274.html
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for some
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alex Kalemkeris wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can someone help me with a quick how-to to configure my
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Windows XP & 2000 machines to work as a client to my Netger
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FVS318 computer? I'd like to use the inherent VPN client in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XP & 2000 for tempoaray connections to my home network when
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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