Canopus Announces EDIUS NX For HDV

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Canopus Announces EDIUS NX For HDV
Realtime native HDV editing solution provides mixed HD/SD editing

(December 01,2004) Canopus Corporation, a recognized leader in
realtime video editing technology, today announced EDIUS NX for HDV.
EDIUS NX for HDV redefines video production capability and
affordability with a groundbreaking, tightly integrated software and
hardware solution for realtime HD and SD editing, effects and
compositing. With its seamless realtime workflow, EDIUS NX for HDV
lets videographers mix HD and SD video footage in realtime and work
with unlimited video, audio and effects layers, while providing
realtime high-quality, full-resolution HD video output to an HD
monitor for preview.

"Just as we set the standard for realtime output in the early days of
the DV editing revolution, we're at it again in the HD world with our
HD codec technologies," said Hiro Yamada, founder and chairman of the
board of Canopus . "With our tightly integrated software and hardware
solutions for HDV, we can provide the realtime editing and output
functionality that is sorely lacking in software-only solutions."

Powered by EDIUS Pro 3 nonlinear editing software, EDIUS NX for HDV
provides native editing and realtime processing of HDV, DV,
uncompressed SD, MPEG-2, MPEG-1 formats. EDIUS Pro 3 is designed for
maximum performance with realtime, multi-track, mixed format HD/SD
editing, compositing, chroma keying, titling and timeline output
capabilities, and supports realtime output of multiple video tracks,
effects, and graphics and title layers. EDIUS Pro 3 also supports
direct-to- DVD timeline export.

For the complete press release
http://www.digitalproducer.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=29399

For more information, visit the Videoguys EdiusNX page
http://www.videoguys.com/ediusNX.html

Gary
Videoguys.com 800 323-2325
We are the Digital Video Editing & DVD Production Experts!
For all the latest NLE,DVD & HDV news check out the Videoguys Blog http://www.videoguys.com/blog/
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    Approach Canopus carefully they have a proven track record of dishonest and
    deceptive advertising. No matter what you may have heard Canopus products
    will NOT work with Adobe's Premiere Pro. Before investing in this company's
    product offerings visit the Canopus forums to see for yourself.


    "Gary Bettan" <gary@videoguys.com> wrote in message
    news:41ae1a03.2366319918@news.concentric.net...
    > Canopus Announces EDIUS NX For HDV
    > Realtime native HDV editing solution provides mixed HD/SD editing
    >
  2. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 03:29:03 GMT, "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Canopus productswill NOT work with Adobe's Premiere Pro.

    While it is true that Canopus took a long time to get stable drivers
    for the DV Storm and Premeire Pro, they have resolved the problem for
    most users. And i agree with everyone who had to wait, that the wait
    was far too long. But that is one of the problems you run into when
    the software is made by company A and the hardware by company B.

    There was a very real engineering issue with the way Premiere Pro vs
    the Storm handled certain functions. It was a very difficult fix and
    while they have it working now, some features that are real-time with
    competitive cards like the RTX100 are still not available as real-time
    features with Storm.

    Canopus has their own NLE app called Edius. While it is not as mature
    or robust as Premeire, it has the distinct advantage of having the
    software and hardware engineered from the ground up to work together.
    And Edius is a very feature rich app, and pretty easy to get the hag
    of - especially if you already know Premeire Pro. The feature set of
    the new Edius NX for HDV is nothing short of remarkable for the price.

    Anyone planning on migrating over to HDV over the next year should
    give this product consideration. http://www.videoguys.com/ediusNX.html

    Gary
    Videoguys.com 800 323-2325
    We are the Digital Video Editing & DVD Production Experts!
    For all the latest NLE,DVD & HDV news check out the Videoguys Blog http://www.videoguys.com/blog/
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    VIC. Canopus has a rep of the most stable , functional software and hardware
    I've used.
    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3_vrd.9886$NU3.3500@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Approach Canopus carefully they have a proven track record of dishonest
    > and
    > deceptive advertising. No matter what you may have heard Canopus products
    > will NOT work with Adobe's Premiere Pro. Before investing in this
    > company's
    > product offerings visit the Canopus forums to see for yourself.
    >
    >
    > "Gary Bettan" <gary@videoguys.com> wrote in message
    > news:41ae1a03.2366319918@news.concentric.net...
    >> Canopus Announces EDIUS NX For HDV
    >> Realtime native HDV editing solution provides mixed HD/SD editing
    >>
    >
    >
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    The advertisment said
    "Unprecedented integration with Adobe from Canopus"

    The Truth taken TODAY from the Premiere1.5 plug-in READ ME file... available
    only after purchasing and registering.

    Limitations
    a.. Video capture
    When you are opening the capture window and doing a tape seek, please do
    not stop the operation or move the focus from the capture window. The seek
    status may become unstable and cause the deck control to fail. If this
    occurs, please close the capture window and open it again to resume capture.
    b.. Black frames in captured clips
    Captured clips may sometimes contain an extra black frame at the end.
    c.. Frame forward/back command
    The frame forward/back command may move 2-3 frames when switching from
    frame forward to frame back or vice versa.
    d.. Capture and export to tape
    If you open the capture window right after doing an "Export to tape" you
    may not see video in the capture window. You may have to scrub video in the
    timeline to restore video overlay in the capture window.
    e.. Leaving the capture window in slow play mode
    In certain decks, leaving the capture window in slow play mode over time
    may cause the capture window to go into play mode.
    f.. Audio data drop
    You might encounter audio drops when you are using the shuttle or jog to
    move quickly back and forth in the source monitor.
    g.. Capture only video
    When capturing a video only file using the Canopus plugin, it will create
    a video with an empty audio waveform.
    h.. Export to tape overlay
    Preview failure in "Export to Tape" may require you to scrub or playback
    video from the timeline. You should then see video playback correctly in
    "Export to Tape."
    i.. Offline clips in source window
    When multiple offline clips are in the source window, and then batch
    captured, the playback in the source window may stutter a little, and also
    there may be no NTSC output. If this occurs, please close out the clips and
    then reopen them in the source window. If the capture fails, please reattemp
    t the capture. Also, please make sure to keep the capture dialog open during
    batch capturing.
    j.. Project window display
    When a clip is scrubbed or played in the Project window previewer, the
    first frame of the previously selected clip in the Project window is
    displayed for two or more seconds.
    k.. Overlay preview
    When seeing preview on the PC monitor while scrubbing or playback, the
    preview may show darker, or shift a pixel. This is because the screen is
    switching from Graphic draw mode to Overlay draw mode, and is a Windows
    limitation. Please use an external monitor when confirming color and other
    settings that may require precise control.
    l.. Dithering in overlay preview
    When seeing preview on the PC monitor while scrubbing, the preview may
    show dither (artifacts) when going across 2 frames that highly contrast.
    this is because the spec for overlay displaying, and is a spec. Please use
    an external monitor to confirm the proper output image.
    m.. Project preview thumbnail
    In the project window, the preview thumbnail may show incorrectly scaled
    if you scrub or play.
    n.. 16:9 and 4:3 clips
    16:9 clips in 4:3 projects, or vice versa, can not be played back in
    realtime.
    o.. Highest/draft/Automatic quality
    Highest/Draft/Automatic quality is not supported. All overlay and output
    is at highest quality at all times.
    p.. Playback mode setting
    When switching the playback mode from "All rendering" to "All realtime",
    the rendering markers will not be updated until you playback the timeline.
    q.. Segment with Premiere video effect and speed
    If you encounter reduced playback performance after applying effects you
    may want to render previews on the affected area.
    r.. Sequence with speed adjustments
    Nested sequences may not show correctly when a speed change is applied to
    the nested sequence. Please render the sequence clips for correct output.
    s.. Importing clips to the Source monitor
    When you are importing multiple clips to the source monitor, it may take
    some time to load all the clips.
    t.. Scrubbing clips on the timeline
    Scrubbing a clip in the timeline with Motion filter selected in the effect
    control window may result in the timeline cursor jumping in the reverse
    direction while scrubbing.
    u.. Editing a clip
    When Editing a clip with color that goes over the safe area with
    rendering, that part will be clipped. This is caused by color space
    conversion.
    v.. Canopus transitions and clips with alpha
    When applying Canopus transition on a clip with alpha, the alpha will be
    ignored. As a result, a hue of the part will be changed. Also because of
    this issue, Canopus transitions can not be used on tracks 2 or above.
    w.. Transition trim
    Trimming the out point of a transition after placing it in a sequence
    causes incorrect cutlist update.
    x.. Transition preview
    Canopus transitions previews are slightly letterboxed in the effect
    control window. In the timeline, the transitions will show correctly.
    y.. 3DRT Transitions
    Overscan handling (scaling) is enabled at default. For certain images,
    this may generate overscan artifacting in the Program window and external
    monitor output.
    z.. Edge color setting in 3DRT/3DPinP Transitions
    The edge color setting in 3DRT and 3DPinP currently has several issues.
    aa.. Deleting 3DRT/3DPinP Transitions
    When deleting a configured 3DRT/3DPinP transition and pasting the same
    transition again, please open the setup dialog and click OK.
    ab.. Picture in Picture filter
    If [fix aspect] is checked in the Picture in picture setting dialog, you
    can not enter the width or height field manually.
    ac.. Large still images in Picture in Picture filter
    When you import a still image larger then the project size, and then apply
    the picture in picture filter, the image seen on the monitor during the
    filter setting, and the image seen when scrubbing on the timeline will look
    different. Please check "Scale clips to project dimensions when adding to
    sequence" in Project | Project Settings to ON, if you would like to see the
    correct preview during settings.
    ad.. Scale footage option
    When you change the "Scale clips to project dimensions when adding to
    sequence" setting, the monitor's program window may show in black. If this
    happens, you can scrub on the monitor's source window to regain the overlay.
    ae.. Transparency settings
    When setting Canopus Chromakey/Canopus Luminancekey/Canopus Picture In
    Picture as a filter, the preview window and video output will show gray as a
    background. The background will show when you get out of the setting dialog
    and return to the timeline.
    af.. Safe margins
    Safe margins are not displayed during playback, or when using the shuttle
    slider.
    ag.. Bars & Tone audio
    There are no audio output of Bars & Tone audio from the source window.
    ah.. Field option and frame hold
    Premiere Pro's "field option" and "frame hold" features are not supported
    in this driver release.
    If you need to change the field options you will need to export the clip
    with the desired "keyframe and rendering" options, and use that clip
    instead.
    If you need to hold on a frame you can export the frame as a still image
    to be used as your frame hold.
    ai.. Insert/Assemble function
    Premiere Pro Plug-in does not support Insert/Assemble function for RS422
    Sony® protocol control.
    aj.. Export tape
    The rendering before "Tape out" can not be canceled. Please DO NOT cancel
    the rendering (Please wait for the rendering to finish). OR please render
    the timeline before "Tape out".
    ak.. Project Manager
    Canopus AVI clips do not support the Project Manager feature.
    al.. Clip metadata
    Canopus AVI clips do not support the clip metadata feature.
    am.. Voiceover function
    While using the voiceover function, the audio comes out from the sound
    card, not the Canopus hardware(DVStorm,DVRex-RT/RT Pro, and
    DVRaptor-RT2/Max).
    an.. Premiere Pro and After Effects
    When Premiere Pro is opened, the video output from After Effects will not
    work. Please close Premiere Pro when you wish to output.
    ao.. Edit Original
    Edit original is not supported when using Canopus DV files.
    ap.. Picture in Picture and Chromakey
    If you set a [slide top] effect to the picture in picture, and apply
    chromakey to the same picture, please render the image first for proper
    output.
    aq.. Size and Aspect ratio that can be played in realtime
    The combination of size and aspect ratio that can be playbacked in
    realtime is as below. If rendering is required, the timeline will be marked
    in red.


    On top of this long list of handicaps are problems with dropping audio,
    Xplode for Storm has been left out entirety and some are still unable to
    export more that a few minutes of video.

    There are more issues you can find them by searching Canopus forums but
    hurry they own the site and have been known to delete unfavorable posts.

    By the way... Adobe does not list Canopus Cards as supported, so as far as
    certified... Who knows?


    "Gary Bettan" <gary@videoguys.com> wrote in message
    news:41af86c5.2459696607@news.concentric.net...
    > On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 03:29:03 GMT, "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Canopus productswill NOT work with Adobe's Premiere Pro.
    >
    > While it is true that Canopus took a long time to get stable drivers
    > for the DV Storm and Premeire Pro, they have resolved the problem for
    > most users. And i agree with everyone who had to wait, that the wait
    > was far too long. But that is one of the problems you run into when
    > the software is made by company A and the hardware by company B.
    >
  5. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    > The advertisment said
    >"Unprecedented integration with Adobe from Canopus"
    >
    >The Truth taken TODAY from the Premiere1.5 plug-in READ ME file...

    Wow, kinda clunky sounding.

    Craig H.
  6. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5 is still on
    the "clunky" side does not give proof that - to quote Vic, "they (Canopus)
    have a proven track record of dishonest and
    deceptive advertising. No matter what you may have heard Canopus products
    will NOT work with Adobe's Premiere Pro" Although the DVStorm2 is the last
    in a long line of realtime DV editing products Canopus has produced it has
    been a rock solid product in the integration with previous Premiere
    versions. Just because there are troubles with the Pro 1.5 version does not
    negate the integrity of Canopus as a company that supports their products
    well beyond what other companies do.

    Before you trash Canopus just listen to what they have done in comparison to
    Matrox or Pinnacle when it comes to product support. I personally have the
    Canopus DVRexRT, the absolute first realtime hardware editing options ever
    offered on the market at the consumer/prosumer level. I believe the DVRexRT
    hit the market in 2000, way before the Matrox RT200 or Pinnacle DV500. Today
    12/3/2004 this card is still supported by Canopus with drivers and software
    which plugs into Ulead MediaStudio 6, 6.5, & 7, Adobe Premiere 6.5, Pro 1.0
    & Pro 1.5, Edius 20 & 2.5. Their software packages Photo Album, Xpode
    Professional, ProCoder & Imaginate plug-in respectively in all cases and in
    the manner to which they are supposed to work. I have all the above on this
    machine that I am currently using to write this post.

    The Canopus DVRexRT is still working on the latest mainboards. Particulary
    the Asus P4C800 Deluxe which is the mainboard of choice for running other
    cards like the DVStorm or the Matrox RT.X100. Several of my turnkey
    customers owning the DVRexRT have upgraded to this mainboard and love it.
    Now, in all this where are the other cards offered in the past by Matrox or
    Pinnacle in their respective support chains? Does the RT2000 have drivers
    beyond usage on Windows XP with Adobe Premiere 6.5? NO! Does the RT2500 have
    support beyond using Windows XP with Adobe Premiere 6.5? NO! Did Pinnacle
    extend support for the DV500 beyond Windows XP and Premiere 6.5? NO, AGAIN!

    Outside of recent changes to how the Matrox RT.X100 works none of these
    other cards mentioned could operate outside the confines of Adobe Premiere.
    Why? Because it is safe, and even at that there were rantings and ravings
    about the performance of the DV500, RT2000 & RT2500 when it came to working
    within Premiere. Funny, at that point people mostly blamed Adobe saying
    Premiere was totally unstable. My point is that Canopus goes well beyond the
    other companies when it comes to caring about their customers and their
    products in offering support for longer than the competition. Sure, the
    DVStorm may be on it's way off the shelf in favor of newer HDV products, but
    whatever is wrong with integration in Premiere Pro 1.5 will be fixed and
    will be very stable. And I'll bet that Canopus will find a way to keep it
    alive long after we can't purchase it anymore.

    Next, if you don't like the way the Storm works with Premiere Pro 1.5 go to
    Edius 2.5. I like it better out of all the many choices I have, and as you
    can see I have them all.
    --
    Larry Johnson
    Digital Video Solutions
    webmaster@digitalvideosolutions.com
    http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
    877-227-6281 Toll Free Sales Assistance
    386-672-1941 customer Service
    386-672-1907 Technical Support
    386-676-1515 Fax


    "HighPeaksVideo" <highpeaksvideo@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20041203003355.07592.00001613@mb-m01.aol.com...
    > > The advertisment said
    > >"Unprecedented integration with Adobe from Canopus"
    > >
    > >The Truth taken TODAY from the Premiere1.5 plug-in READ ME file...
    >
    > Wow, kinda clunky sounding.
    >
    > Craig H.
  7. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle are really
    bad.


    The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18 months ago
    Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called "Unprecedented
    integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO indication of on
    going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer relations...is
    it yours?


    However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe products.
    That's unmistakably dishonest.


    You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how Canopus
    has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.


    "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
    news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5 is still
    on
    > the "clunky" side
  8. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a disgruntled
    former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony maybe.

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle are
    really
    > bad.
    >
    >
    >
    > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18 months ago
    > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called "Unprecedented
    > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO indication of
    on
    > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    relations...is
    > it yours?
    >
    >
    >
    > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe
    products.
    > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    >
    >
    >
    > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how Canopus
    > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    message
    > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5 is
    still
    > on
    > > the "clunky" side
    >
    >
  9. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your Republican...
    by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?


    "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
    news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    disgruntled
    > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony maybe.
    >
    > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle are
    > really
    > > bad.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18 months
    ago
    > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called "Unprecedented
    > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO indication
    of
    > on
    > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > relations...is
    > > it yours?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe
    > products.
    > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how
    Canopus
    > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > message
    > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5 is
    > still
    > > on
    > > > the "clunky" side
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  10. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track record
    speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better. Don't vote.
    Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your Republican...
    > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    >
    >
    > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    message
    > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    > disgruntled
    > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony maybe.
    > >
    > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle are
    > > really
    > > > bad.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18 months
    > ago
    > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    "Unprecedented
    > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO indication
    > of
    > > on
    > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > > relations...is
    > > > it yours?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe
    > > products.
    > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how
    > Canopus
    > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > message
    > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5 is
    > > still
    > > > on
    > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  11. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?

    "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
    news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track record
    > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better. Don't
    vote.
    > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.
    >
    > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    Republican...
    > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > >
    > >
    > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > message
    > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    > > disgruntled
    > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony maybe.
    > > >
    > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle are
    > > > really
    > > > > bad.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18
    months
    > > ago
    > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > "Unprecedented
    > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO
    indication
    > > of
    > > > on
    > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > > > relations...is
    > > > > it yours?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe
    > > > products.
    > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how
    > > Canopus
    > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > > message
    > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5
    is
    > > > still
    > > > > on
    > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  12. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Oh, and democracy in not a spectator sport

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:_lKsd.1984$0r.368@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    >
    > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    message
    > news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track record
    > > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better. Don't
    > vote.
    > > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.
    > >
    > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    > Republican...
    > > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > message
    > > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    > > > disgruntled
    > > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony
    maybe.
    > > > >
    > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle
    are
    > > > > really
    > > > > > bad.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18
    > months
    > > > ago
    > > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > > "Unprecedented
    > > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO
    > indication
    > > > of
    > > > > on
    > > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > > > > relations...is
    > > > > > it yours?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support Adobe
    > > > > products.
    > > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change how
    > > > Canopus
    > > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote
    in
    > > > > message
    > > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro 1.5
    > is
    > > > > still
    > > > > > on
    > > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  13. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    (edit) Democracy "IS" not a spectators sport.

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:jpKsd.1987$0r.408@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Oh, and democracy in not a spectator sport
    >
    > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:_lKsd.1984$0r.368@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    > >
    > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > message
    > > news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track
    record
    > > > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better. Don't
    > > vote.
    > > > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.
    > > >
    > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    > > Republican...
    > > > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > > message
    > > > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    > > > > disgruntled
    > > > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony
    > maybe.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and Pinnacle
    > are
    > > > > > really
    > > > > > > bad.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18
    > > months
    > > > > ago
    > > > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > > > "Unprecedented
    > > > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO
    > > indication
    > > > > of
    > > > > > on
    > > > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > > > > > relations...is
    > > > > > > it yours?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support
    Adobe
    > > > > > products.
    > > > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change
    how
    > > > > Canopus
    > > > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    wrote
    > in
    > > > > > message
    > > > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro
    1.5
    > > is
    > > > > > still
    > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  14. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Couldn't win the arguement, so you changed the focus to another issue. So
    lame. So, so, lame.

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3sKsd.1989$0r.9@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > (edit) Democracy "IS" not a spectators sport.
    >
    > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:jpKsd.1987$0r.408@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > Oh, and democracy in not a spectator sport
    > >
    > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:_lKsd.1984$0r.368@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    > > >
    > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > message
    > > > news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track
    > record
    > > > > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better.
    Don't
    > > > vote.
    > > > > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.
    > > > >
    > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    > > > Republican...
    > > > > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote
    in
    > > > > message
    > > > > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're a
    > > > > > disgruntled
    > > > > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like Sony
    > > maybe.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and
    Pinnacle
    > > are
    > > > > > > really
    > > > > > > > bad.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release 18
    > > > months
    > > > > > ago
    > > > > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > > > > "Unprecedented
    > > > > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO
    > > > indication
    > > > > > of
    > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good customer
    > > > > > > relations...is
    > > > > > > > it yours?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support
    > Adobe
    > > > > > > products.
    > > > > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't change
    > how
    > > > > > Canopus
    > > > > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    > wrote
    > > in
    > > > > > > message
    > > > > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere Pro
    > 1.5
    > > > is
    > > > > > > still
    > > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  15. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:39:22 GMT, "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?

    I feel sorry for you Vic. Canopus has a very god reputation. The only
    real stuff-up for now is the PPro plugin misery. But you might
    consider that the company has a limited amount of resources
    (programmers), who work on Edius for now, and a bit less on the PPro
    plug. This might also be fueled by the popularity of Edius compared to
    PPro for Canopus.

    cheers

    -martin-

    --
    Can the terror of spam be included in the war on terror?
  16. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    My apologies I thought I was having a disagreement with an adult.

    "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
    news:nUxtd.73906$Oc.72868@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > Couldn't win the arguement, so you changed the focus to another issue. So
    > lame. So, so, lame.
    >
    > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:3sKsd.1989$0r.9@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > (edit) Democracy "IS" not a spectators sport.
    > >
    > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:jpKsd.1987$0r.408@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > Oh, and democracy in not a spectator sport
    > > >
    > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:_lKsd.1984$0r.368@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    > > > >
    > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    > > > message
    > > > > news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track
    > > record
    > > > > > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better.
    > Don't
    > > > > vote.
    > > > > > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and me.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    > > > > Republican...
    > > > > > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    wrote
    > in
    > > > > > message
    > > > > > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say you're
    a
    > > > > > > disgruntled
    > > > > > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like
    Sony
    > > > maybe.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and
    > Pinnacle
    > > > are
    > > > > > > > really
    > > > > > > > > bad.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in release
    18
    > > > > months
    > > > > > > ago
    > > > > > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > > > > > "Unprecedented
    > > > > > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since, NO
    > > > > indication
    > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good
    customer
    > > > > > > > relations...is
    > > > > > > > > it yours?
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and support
    > > Adobe
    > > > > > > > products.
    > > > > > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't
    change
    > > how
    > > > > > > Canopus
    > > > > > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this matter.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    > > wrote
    > > > in
    > > > > > > > message
    > > > > > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere
    Pro
    > > 1.5
    > > > > is
    > > > > > > > still
    > > > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  17. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Please Martin save your sympathy. I don't want it.

    I simply expect a company to deliver on their promises. That's not asking
    too much?

    You may choose to excuse Canopus... I do not.

    "Martin Heffels" <marybooks56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:9otcr0lodi8ubfd246vmmievmjcv1nqce9@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:39:22 GMT, "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    >
    > I feel sorry for you Vic. Canopus has a very god reputation. The only
    > real stuff-up for now is the PPro plugin misery. But you might
    > consider that the company has a limited amount of resources
    > (programmers), who work on Edius for now, and a bit less on the PPro
    > plug. This might also be fueled by the popularity of Edius compared to
    > PPro for Canopus.
    >
    > cheers
    >
    > -martin-
    >
    > --
    > Can the terror of spam be included in the war on terror?
  18. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    So, that's your opinion. Do you actually own a Canopus product, or do you
    just have a burr in your butt for them?

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:miPtd.5652$yr1.4038@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Please Martin save your sympathy. I don't want it.
    >
    > I simply expect a company to deliver on their promises. That's not asking
    > too much?
    >
    > You may choose to excuse Canopus... I do not.
    >
    > "Martin Heffels" <marybooks56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:9otcr0lodi8ubfd246vmmievmjcv1nqce9@4ax.com...
    > > On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:39:22 GMT, "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > >So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    > >
    > > I feel sorry for you Vic. Canopus has a very god reputation. The only
    > > real stuff-up for now is the PPro plugin misery. But you might
    > > consider that the company has a limited amount of resources
    > > (programmers), who work on Edius for now, and a bit less on the PPro
    > > plug. This might also be fueled by the popularity of Edius compared to
    > > PPro for Canopus.
    > >
    > > cheers
    > >
    > > -martin-
    > >
    > > --
    > > Can the terror of spam be included in the war on terror?
    >
    >
  19. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Then stick to the subject. I was not the one to begin the sidebar talk
    concerning anything other than your/our feelings toward Canopus business
    practices. It was you who trailed off on other subjects to attempt to cloud
    the real issue at hand, not me.

    "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:K7Ptd.5418$0r.501@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > My apologies I thought I was having a disagreement with an adult.
    >
    > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
    message
    > news:nUxtd.73906$Oc.72868@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > Couldn't win the arguement, so you changed the focus to another issue.
    So
    > > lame. So, so, lame.
    > >
    > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:3sKsd.1989$0r.9@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > (edit) Democracy "IS" not a spectators sport.
    > > >
    > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:jpKsd.1987$0r.408@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > Oh, and democracy in not a spectator sport
    > > > >
    > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:_lKsd.1984$0r.368@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > So... how many times DO you have to lie to become a liar?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote
    in
    > > > > message
    > > > > > news:90csd.62252$Oc.42519@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > One product does not deem a company dishonest. The Canopus track
    > > > record
    > > > > > > speaks for itself. It's not Bad and Worse. It's best and better.
    > > Don't
    > > > > > vote.
    > > > > > > Hate politics because no one is ever right. Including you and
    me.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:0x5sd.473$yr1.342@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > > And Larry If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say your
    > > > > > Republican...
    > > > > > > > by your trying to divert attention from the real issues?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    > wrote
    > > in
    > > > > > > message
    > > > > > > > news:Pg5sd.59893$Oc.50415@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > > Vic, if I didn't know better (and I don't) I would say
    you're
    > a
    > > > > > > > disgruntled
    > > > > > > > > former Canopus employee working for another company - like
    > Sony
    > > > > maybe.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > "vic" <Vic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > > news:f15sd.441$yr1.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > > > > > > > > So Larry, your defense is Canopus is bad but Matrox and
    > > Pinnacle
    > > > > are
    > > > > > > > > really
    > > > > > > > > > bad.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > The first time since the first Premiere Pro plug-in
    release
    > 18
    > > > > > months
    > > > > > > > ago
    > > > > > > > > > Canopus even acknowledged a problem with their so called
    > > > > > > "Unprecedented
    > > > > > > > > > integration with Adobe" was back in June. Nothing since,
    NO
    > > > > > indication
    > > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > > > going support or repair. That is NOT my idea of good
    > customer
    > > > > > > > > relations...is
    > > > > > > > > > it yours?
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > However TODAY they continue claims to work with and
    support
    > > > Adobe
    > > > > > > > > products.
    > > > > > > > > > That's unmistakably dishonest.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > You can continue to attack me personally but that won't
    > change
    > > > how
    > > > > > > > Canopus
    > > > > > > > > > has chosen to handle their customer support in this
    matter.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > "Digital Video Solutions"
    <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
    > > > wrote
    > > > > in
    > > > > > > > > message
    > > > > > > > > > news:5l0sd.91983$8G4.86154@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
    > > > > > > > > > > Though the integration between the DVStorm2 and Premiere
    > Pro
    > > > 1.5
    > > > > > is
    > > > > > > > > still
    > > > > > > > > > on
    > > > > > > > > > > the "clunky" side
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  20. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    I'm sorry but I have to step in here. I've also used Canopus products
    since the Rex and in fact used the DVStorm and Adobe Premiere 6.5 to
    post a series for IFC a couple of years ago.

    Although Canopus has a long track record of quality video post
    production software and hardware products, anyone who thinks that their
    reputation is still untarnished after the Premiere Pro DVStorm fiasco
    -- must be living in dreamland.

    Canopus failed to deliver a good working driver for the DVStorm card
    and Premiere Pro. Simple as that! It's not a matter of just the right
    hardware to make it work -- it just doesn't work properly period. There
    are many, many issues with it. Just go to the forum and see. A lot of
    previously Canopus "fanboys" have left the Storm for OHCI or simply
    moved to Edius.

    The Canopus boards are full of well-informed users, many who publish
    video books and produce TV series, who have bashed Canopus for failure
    of delivering a promised driver and many others have simply sold their
    DVStorm card.

    These forums should be about "truth" and people should not be mislead.
    I only produce, I don't sell products by Canopus or anyone and I can't
    recommend that anyone buys into the DVStorm and Premiere Pro at the
    moment -- or in the future. You're chances of getting a stable, well
    performing system are miniscule plus using the Storm cripples some
    important Premiere Pro features such as the project trimmer, which is
    very important for backing up and storing projects efficiently.
    Premiere Pro 1.5 (in particular) running generic OHCI is excellent,
    close to real time if you have SATA drives and a fast CPU.

    Canopus has simply moved it's energy into Edius, they're not going to
    make the DVStorm driver any better -- it's not worth the time and money
    they have to spend on it.

    You are better off looking at Edius/DVStorm, Sony Vegas OHCI, Premiere
    Pro 1.5 OHCI, DVStorm/Premiere 6.5 (if you can pick up a cheap Storm
    card on Ebay).

    MB
  21. Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

    Regardless of all that is said and has been said here, I have not seen it in
    systems we have built. Nor, do I see it on my clunky old PIII dual 1GHz 1GB
    of pretty slow by comparison PC133 RAM machine with the original DVRexRT
    card using the latest Premiere Pro plug-in. The two cards are much the same
    save for the difference in one using the Sony DVBK-1 chip and the other an
    Hitachi chip. Both scalable according to processor speed, etc.

    Aside from that I am very impressed (seriously) that you have done so much
    on IFC, Marco. I am sure you are a very accurate and knowledgable man. I
    respect that. I am also quite sure there are others of some achievement and
    acumen who are indeed having trouble with their Storm/Premiere Pro setups. I
    would rather know the hardware facts of those systems and the process of
    original step-by-step installations rather than hear the rantings.

    I agree the truth should be told in these forums, and I am doing just that.
    As are you and many others as well. There are thousands of these boards out
    there, and there are thousands of users who are not experiencing the
    problems of those ranting on the Canopus forum. Just because they rant
    doesn't prove the plug-in is no good, and not having those who are satisfied
    with the performance of the plug-in stand up to be counted does not give
    proof to the contrary. It's sort of like taking a vote on this forum in the
    follwing manner. Those who like orange juice raise your hand. Those who hate
    orange juice write a note on this forum.

    I am just raising my hand to say all is well with what I am using, which
    happens to be the DVRexRT with the Premiere Pro 1.5 plug-in. I am also
    raising my hand for those several hundred of my customers who have the Storm
    and the Premiere Pro plug-in, while raising the question: "What is really
    the truth about those forum gripers? Say what you want, think whatever you
    wish. We should agree to simply disagree.

    --
    Larry Johnson
    Digital Video Solutions
    webmaster@digitalvideosolutions.com
    http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
    877-227-6281 Toll Free Sales Assistance
    386-672-1941 customer Service
    386-672-1907 Technical Support
    386-676-1515 Fax


    "marco" <mbelli@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
    news:1102996769.410373.140150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > I'm sorry but I have to step in here. I've also used Canopus products
    > since the Rex and in fact used the DVStorm and Adobe Premiere 6.5 to
    > post a series for IFC a couple of years ago.
    >
    > Although Canopus has a long track record of quality video post
    > production software and hardware products, anyone who thinks that their
    > reputation is still untarnished after the Premiere Pro DVStorm fiasco
    > -- must be living in dreamland.
    >
    > Canopus failed to deliver a good working driver for the DVStorm card
    > and Premiere Pro. Simple as that! It's not a matter of just the right
    > hardware to make it work -- it just doesn't work properly period. There
    > are many, many issues with it. Just go to the forum and see. A lot of
    > previously Canopus "fanboys" have left the Storm for OHCI or simply
    > moved to Edius.
    >
    > The Canopus boards are full of well-informed users, many who publish
    > video books and produce TV series, who have bashed Canopus for failure
    > of delivering a promised driver and many others have simply sold their
    > DVStorm card.
    >
    > These forums should be about "truth" and people should not be mislead.
    > I only produce, I don't sell products by Canopus or anyone and I can't
    > recommend that anyone buys into the DVStorm and Premiere Pro at the
    > moment -- or in the future. You're chances of getting a stable, well
    > performing system are miniscule plus using the Storm cripples some
    > important Premiere Pro features such as the project trimmer, which is
    > very important for backing up and storing projects efficiently.
    > Premiere Pro 1.5 (in particular) running generic OHCI is excellent,
    > close to real time if you have SATA drives and a fast CPU.
    >
    > Canopus has simply moved it's energy into Edius, they're not going to
    > make the DVStorm driver any better -- it's not worth the time and money
    > they have to spend on it.
    >
    > You are better off looking at Edius/DVStorm, Sony Vegas OHCI, Premiere
    > Pro 1.5 OHCI, DVStorm/Premiere 6.5 (if you can pick up a cheap Storm
    > card on Ebay).
    >
    > MB
    >
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