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Anonymous
January 5, 2005 8:36:33 PM

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1997 MacWorld Boston Keynote on DVD.

A pivotal moment in Apple's history. Steve has returned, the existing
Board of Directors has been let go, Steve makes peace with Microsoft,
Bill Gates is tricked into appearing as George Orwell on a huge
screen... to Boos and Hisses by the audience. Great stuff!

Stylish Interviews with new Board Members:

Ed Woolard
Gareth Chang
Larry Ellison
Jerry York
Bill Campbell

This is Steve Jobs at his very best, Think Different campaign begins,
the Color Apple Logo is still alive. Fun to watch again and again.

Up until Jan 6th 2005 here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item...

This DVD and others always at this link:

http://stores.ebay.com/applehistorystore

Enjoy!

--
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January 6, 2005 3:41:42 AM

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Apple History wrote:

> 1997 MacWorld Boston Keynote on DVD.

> A pivotal moment in Apple's history. Steve has returned, the existing
> Board of Directors has been let go, Steve makes peace with Microsoft,

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Anonymous
January 6, 2005 12:35:58 PM

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In article <mK%Cd.34$hr4.7569@news.uswest.net>,
Apple History <apphist@cos.net> wrote:
>1997 MacWorld Boston Keynote on DVD.
>
>A pivotal moment in Apple's history. Steve has returned, the existing
>Board of Directors has been let go, Steve makes peace with Microsoft,
>Bill Gates is tricked into appearing as George Orwell on a huge
>screen... to Boos and Hisses by the audience. Great stuff!

You mean "as Big Brother"? He probably _enjoyed_ that.
Anonymous
January 6, 2005 9:58:11 PM

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Funny, a company as large as Apple using a tag line with bad grammar. I
"think differently" than they do I guess. If I make fun of their tag line do
you think they will "take it personal", or should they 'take it personally".
Now I'm all confused. Was it "a historical" moment in Apple history or "an
historical" moment in Apple history. Oh well, it is a part of Apples's
history!

"Apple History" <apphist@cos.net> wrote in message
news:mK%Cd.34$hr4.7569@news.uswest.net...
> 1997 MacWorld Boston Keynote on DVD.
>
> A pivotal moment in Apple's history. Steve has returned, the existing
> Board of Directors has been let go, Steve makes peace with Microsoft,
> Bill Gates is tricked into appearing as George Orwell on a huge
> screen... to Boos and Hisses by the audience. Great stuff!
>
> Stylish Interviews with new Board Members:
>
> Ed Woolard
> Gareth Chang
> Larry Ellison
> Jerry York
> Bill Campbell
>
> This is Steve Jobs at his very best, Think Different campaign begins,
> the Color Apple Logo is still alive. Fun to watch again and again.
>
> Up until Jan 6th 2005 here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item...
>
> This DVD and others always at this link:
>
> http://stores.ebay.com/applehistorystore
>
> Enjoy!
>
> --
> ------
Anonymous
January 6, 2005 9:58:12 PM

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In article <7TfDd.183048$8G4.9578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
"Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote:

> Funny, a company as large as Apple using a tag line with bad grammar.
> I "think differently" than they do I guess.

It's a matter of grabbing attention. Back in the 1950s, the same
comment was made about "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should,"
because of "like" instead of the grammatically correct "as."

Do you complain that traffic signs say "slow" instead of the
grammatically correct "slowly"?

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
Anonymous
January 6, 2005 10:27:06 PM

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In article <7TfDd.183048$8G4.9578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
video@digitalvideosolutions.com says...
> Subject: Re: 1997 Boston MacWorld Keynote with Steve Jobs
> From: "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp, rec.video.desktop, comp.sys.mac.system
>
> Funny, a company as large as Apple using a tag line with bad grammar. I
> "think differently" than they do I guess. If I make fun of their tag line do
> you think they will "take it personal", or should they 'take it personally".
> Now I'm all confused. Was it "a historical" moment in Apple history or "an
> historical" moment in Apple history. Oh well, it is a part of Apples's
> history!
>
>

Like all the apple cult meetings, it was an ironic moment in Apple
history. All of you, think different, just like me!
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 5:17:18 AM

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I was walking down the street, minding my own business, when on Wed,
05 Jan 2005 17:36:33 -0700, Apple History <apphist@cos.net> screamed
from behind the mulberry bush:

>1997 MacWorld Boston Keynote on DVD.
>
>A pivotal moment in Apple's history. Steve has returned, the existing
>Board of Directors has been let go, Steve makes peace with Microsoft,
>Bill Gates is tricked into appearing as George Orwell on a huge
>screen... to Boos and Hisses by the audience. Great stuff!
>
>Stylish Interviews with new Board Members:
>
>Ed Woolard
>Gareth Chang
>Larry Ellison
>Jerry York
>Bill Campbell
>
>This is Steve Jobs at his very best, Think Different campaign begins,
>the Color Apple Logo is still alive. Fun to watch again and again.
>
>Up until Jan 6th 2005 here:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item...
>
>This DVD and others always at this link:
>
>http://stores.ebay.com/applehistorystore
>
>Enjoy!

Apple going down the shitter and why:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1745930,00.asp

Apple on the Cheap:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5514983.html?tag...
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 12:44:44 PM

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In article <pbdst01sbv850aj7jht10lu9lrhv9a0ai0@4ax.com>,
Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor <harvie_wahl-bangor@mindless.com> wrote:

> Apple going down the shitter and why:
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1745930,00.asp

Right-- yet another gloom-n-doom from John C. Dvorak, who's been telling
us this for literally about 20 years now. He hasn't been right yet, but
he doesn't let years of inaccuracy dent his determination to keep on
saying the same thing.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X.
Version 2.0: Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more.
See http://www.atomicbird.com/
Anonymous
January 8, 2005 12:46:10 PM

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Small things amuse small minds. You are obviously an expert! I just killed
myself. Gee, what a small act that was.

You're such a genius with words. I love you.



"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:D 0670bcb6d7d493bb1380f142e9931fe@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np...
> Digital Video Solutions, <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>, the wizen,
> mouldy thug, and grain winnower, indoctrinated:
>
>
> > Thank you for your input. The "Apples's" was meant as a joke.
>
> That you are now forced to say "it was a joke" indicates just how much of
a
> dismal failure you are at humour. If you really want to do something that
> will make everyone piss their pants laughing, kill yourself.
>
>
>
>
> --
> The truth about comp.os.linux.advocacy:
> "The _last_ thing I want is a bunch of Windummies begging for rescue
> from their own stupid mistakes** all of the time. Let 'em stay with
> what was created just for them: WinDoze." "Sinister Midget" in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy (news:slrncth9jj.e9q.sinister@home.harry.net)
>
>
>
Anonymous
January 9, 2005 8:17:29 AM

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You continue to make me laugh. So easily baited. I say what you want to hear
and you twist it to appear in a manner which amuses you. You are proving
nothing with you little quips as I am not proving anything by baiting you
further. My butt is cheese and you are the mouse.

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:D 17f6fa5a62c4a08a218c8adab01c308@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np...
> Digital Video Solutions, <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>, the
nitpicking,
> fugal parasite, and vagrant who regulates the workings of the
watermeadows,
> wanted to talkee-talkee about:
>
>
> > I just killed myself. Gee, what a small act that was.
>
> Says a lot about the value of your life, eh.
>
>
>
>
> --
> The truth about comp.os.linux.advocacy:
> "The _last_ thing I want is a bunch of Windummies begging for rescue
> from their own stupid mistakes** all of the time. Let 'em stay with
> what was created just for them: WinDoze." "Sinister Midget" in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy (news:slrncth9jj.e9q.sinister@home.harry.net)
>
>
>
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 6:55:51 PM

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In article <MPG.1c47692a49d776b898a8bd@news.eastlink.ca>,
Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote:

> In article <7TfDd.183048$8G4.9578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> video@digitalvideosolutions.com says...
> > Subject: Re: 1997 Boston MacWorld Keynote with Steve Jobs
> > From: "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com>
> > Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp,
> > rec.video.desktop, comp.sys.mac.system
> >
> > Funny, a company as large as Apple using a tag line with bad grammar. I
> > "think differently" than they do I guess. If I make fun of their tag line
> > do
> > you think they will "take it personal", or should they 'take it
> > personally".
> > Now I'm all confused. Was it "a historical" moment in Apple history or "an
> > historical" moment in Apple history. Oh well, it is a part of Apples's
> > history!
> >
> >
>
> Like all the apple cult meetings, it was an ironic moment in Apple
> history. All of you, think different, just like me!

Ah, the perennial thread!

Let's see: recent apple innovations.

re-defining computer aesthetics (original I-Mac, TiBook, etc. etc. -
essentially building elegant computers instead of ugly ones)
re-defining computer market speak ("i-anything" "e-anything")
re-inventing whole industries (e.g. the music business with the iPod
and LICENCED file sharing)

And now we have the Mac Mini - affordable, modern, cute!, making it
cheap and easy for anyone with a VGA monitor and USB keyboard to try the
Mac OS.

Now, lets see. Real "innovation" on the PC side over the same time
period...

Well, I suppose while Jobs was helping re-energize the movie business
with Pixar, Gates did invest in MS-NBC. Not sure if that's really
"innovation" but I'll give him credit.

And, of course, he gets undeniable kudos for spending some of his
mega-billions innoculating kids in 3rd world countries. Again, not
exactly "innovative" within the industry - but credit where credit is
due.

The leader defends the status quo while the pretender innovates and
builds credibility against the big gun with innovations. Old business
story.

Certainly not a comprehensive nor particularly unbiased view, but I
think on the whole, any unbiased observer has to admit that Apple is a
VASTLY more innovative than the average PC company and their innovation
has a CLEAR effect on the industry disproportionate to their market
share.

Apple still seems to be the little company that pushes everyone else to
do better.

Pretty valuable role, IMO.
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 10:05:24 PM

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In article <newvideo-981754.15555113012005@news.west.cox.net>,
newvideo@fastq.com says...
> Ah, the perennial thread!
>
> Let's see: recent apple innovations.
>
> re-defining computer aesthetics (original I-Mac, TiBook, etc. etc. -
> essentially building elegant computers instead of ugly ones)
> re-defining computer market speak ("i-anything" "e-anything")
> re-inventing whole industries (e.g. the music business with the iPod
> and LICENCED file sharing)
>
> And now we have the Mac Mini - affordable, modern, cute!, making it
> cheap and easy for anyone with a VGA monitor and USB keyboard to try the
> Mac OS.
>
> Now, lets see. Real "innovation" on the PC side over the same time
> period...
>
> Well, I suppose while Jobs was helping re-energize the movie business
> with Pixar, Gates did invest in MS-NBC. Not sure if that's really
> "innovation" but I'll give him credit.
>
> And, of course, he gets undeniable kudos for spending some of his
> mega-billions innoculating kids in 3rd world countries. Again, not
> exactly "innovative" within the industry - but credit where credit is
> due.
>
> The leader defends the status quo while the pretender innovates and
> builds credibility against the big gun with innovations. Old business
> story.
>
> Certainly not a comprehensive nor particularly unbiased view, but I
> think on the whole, any unbiased observer has to admit that Apple is a
> VASTLY more innovative than the average PC company and their innovation
> has a CLEAR effect on the industry disproportionate to their market
> share.
>
> Apple still seems to be the little company that pushes everyone else to
> do better.
>
> Pretty valuable role, IMO.
>

Aside from the OS and the plastic, what is different about Mac now
compared to 5 years ago? Does Mac have a set top internet box for the
masses? How about a best selling game console that's easily hacked to
do just about anything a PC can? We know they could, so why don't they?
Jobs is finally seeing the handwriting on the wall and realizing if you
are going to shape a business model around vastly over pricing
technological fashion accessories to extract the maximum margin from the
consumer, the real money is in devices that people can display outside
of the home and say look how cool I am. There's nothing wrong with
that, there are many cars out there that sell for no other reason than
they are perceived to be "cool", if there was an Ipod VW beetle than
that would be twice as cool. The same goes for furniture, shoes and
cell phones. That reminds me, how can there not be an Ipod cell phone
yet? Someone droped the ball there.

--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 10:05:25 PM

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In article <MPG.1c51f0165ee7103698a8d2@news.eastlink.ca>,
Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote:
>
>Aside from the OS and the plastic, what is different about Mac now
>compared to 5 years ago?

Aside from the OS, plastic, and internals? Nothing.

>Does Mac have a set top internet box for the
>masses? How about a best selling game console that's easily hacked to
>do just about anything a PC can?

Sorry, Apple's not in the business of losing money on every unit and
making it up in volume.
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 10:19:28 PM

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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:58:11 -0600, Digital Video Solutions wrote
(in article <7TfDd.183048$8G4.9578@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>):

> Funny, a company as large as Apple using a tag line with bad grammar. I
> "think differently" than they do I guess.

The tag line wasn't _how_ you should think but _what_ you should think of
Apple --- that Apple is "different".

-- James L. Ryan -- TaliesinSoft
Anonymous
January 15, 2005 9:09:02 AM

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Chris Phillipo wrote:
> In article <newvideo-981754.15555113012005@news.west.cox.net>,
> newvideo@fastq.com says...
>> Ah, the perennial thread!
>>
>> Let's see: recent apple innovations.
>>
>> re-defining computer aesthetics (original I-Mac, TiBook, etc. etc.
>> - essentially building elegant computers instead of ugly ones)
>> re-defining computer market speak ("i-anything" "e-anything")
>> re-inventing whole industries (e.g. the music business with the
>> iPod and LICENCED file sharing)
>>
>> And now we have the Mac Mini - affordable, modern, cute!, making
>> it cheap and easy for anyone with a VGA monitor and USB keyboard to
>> try the Mac OS.
>>
>> Now, lets see. Real "innovation" on the PC side over the same time
>> period...
>>
>> Well, I suppose while Jobs was helping re-energize the movie business
>> with Pixar, Gates did invest in MS-NBC. Not sure if that's really
>> "innovation" but I'll give him credit.
>>
>> And, of course, he gets undeniable kudos for spending some of his
>> mega-billions innoculating kids in 3rd world countries. Again, not
>> exactly "innovative" within the industry - but credit where credit is
>> due.
>>
>> The leader defends the status quo while the pretender innovates and
>> builds credibility against the big gun with innovations. Old business
>> story.
>>
>> Certainly not a comprehensive nor particularly unbiased view, but I
>> think on the whole, any unbiased observer has to admit that Apple is
>> a VASTLY more innovative than the average PC company and their
>> innovation has a CLEAR effect on the industry disproportionate to
>> their market share.
>>
>> Apple still seems to be the little company that pushes everyone else
>> to do better.
>>
>> Pretty valuable role, IMO.
>>
>
> Aside from the OS and the plastic, what is different

Nothing. Now.

*plonk*
Anonymous
January 15, 2005 5:37:12 PM

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In article <4ZGdnWyyJIrRr3XcRVn-ow@speakeasy.net>,
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net says...
> Subject: Re: 1997 Boston MacWorld Keynote with Steve Jobs
> From: russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp, rec.video.desktop, comp.sys.mac.system
>
> In article <MPG.1c51f0165ee7103698a8d2@news.eastlink.ca>,
> Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote:
> >
> >Aside from the OS and the plastic, what is different about Mac now
> >compared to 5 years ago?
>
> Aside from the OS, plastic, and internals? Nothing.
>
> >Does Mac have a set top internet box for the
> >masses? How about a best selling game console that's easily hacked to
> >do just about anything a PC can?
>
> Sorry, Apple's not in the business of losing money on every unit and
> making it up in volume.
>
>

Actually they are. Take away the fashion accessories and the company is
back in the hole again. Inovative.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com
Anonymous
January 17, 2005 4:20:12 PM

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In article <MPG.1c5302bc44bc548198a8d7@news.eastlink.ca>,
Chris Phillipo <cphillipo@ramsays-online.com> wrote:
>n-ow@speakeasy.net>,
>russotto@grace.speakeasy.net says...
>>
>> Sorry, Apple's not in the business of losing money on every unit and
>> making it up in volume.
>>
>>
>
>Actually they are. Take away the fashion accessories and the company is
>back in the hole again. Inovative.

Isn't it fun to just make stuff up?
!