Video 'shudders' when played on DVD

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I captured a short (2 minute) promo video for a friend at the highest
settings I could. e.g. High quality DVD.

Then, when I made a DVD video file at 8000 kbps (vbr) it looks great on the
computer screen. However, when burned to a DVD disc and played on my player,
the video seems to shudder... when I hit 'step' to pause the video I see two
consecutive frames flickering back and forth.

Mind you, when I repeatedly hit 'zoom' the shuddering stops at other levels
of zoom, until it gets back to the original 1:1 when it shudders again.

I've noticed that a video file I copied from a movie DVD is MPEG-2, Field
B,Variable bit rate (Max. 9800 kbps). Should I be using Field B to burn my
discs?

 

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Rus Davey wrote:
> I captured a short (2 minute) promo video for a friend at the highest
> settings I could. e.g. High quality DVD.
>
> Then, when I made a DVD video file at 8000 kbps (vbr) it looks great
> on the computer screen. However, when burned to a DVD disc and played
> on my player, the video seems to shudder... when I hit 'step' to
> pause the video I see two consecutive frames flickering back and
> forth.
>
> Mind you, when I repeatedly hit 'zoom' the shuddering stops at other
> levels of zoom, until it gets back to the original 1:1 when it
> shudders again.
>
> I've noticed that a video file I copied from a movie DVD is MPEG-2,
> Field B,Variable bit rate (Max. 9800 kbps). Should I be using Field B
> to burn my discs?

As you've discovered, the wrong field order is your problem. The difficulty
arises in determining the correct field order as some software calls it (in
your case) field A& B, sometimes field 1 & 2 and sometimes upper & lower
field. Simply selecting the opposite of what you originally did should fix
it.
http://www.100fps.com/ gives several excellent examples of this phenomenon.

Mike

 

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Thanks for your quick reply.

I've also noticed that when I pause my captured MiniDV videos, I can see two
consecutive frames at once, interlaced into one frame. Can you help me to
capture my MiniDV tapes without this problem.

I have the same problem whether I use WinDV or Ulead VideoStudio7SE.




"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:34gmbuF4a78hnU1@individual.net...
>
> Rus Davey wrote:
> > I captured a short (2 minute) promo video for a friend at the highest
> > settings I could. e.g. High quality DVD.
> >
> > Then, when I made a DVD video file at 8000 kbps (vbr) it looks great
> > on the computer screen. However, when burned to a DVD disc and played
> > on my player, the video seems to shudder... when I hit 'step' to
> > pause the video I see two consecutive frames flickering back and
> > forth.
> >
> > Mind you, when I repeatedly hit 'zoom' the shuddering stops at other
> > levels of zoom, until it gets back to the original 1:1 when it
> > shudders again.
> >
> > I've noticed that a video file I copied from a movie DVD is MPEG-2,
> > Field B,Variable bit rate (Max. 9800 kbps). Should I be using Field B
> > to burn my discs?
>
> As you've discovered, the wrong field order is your problem. The
difficulty
> arises in determining the correct field order as some software calls it
(in
> your case) field A& B, sometimes field 1 & 2 and sometimes upper & lower
> field. Simply selecting the opposite of what you originally did should
fix
> it.
> http://www.100fps.com/ gives several excellent examples of this
phenomenon.
>
> Mike
>

 

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You're quite welcome Rus.
Are you watching this footage ("pause my captured MiniDV videos") from the
camcorder or after it's captured into the computer? Either way, what I
suspect you're seeing is the difference in fields (2 fields = 1 frame).
This is especially prevalent in scenes with motion in them (probably most
videos you shoot, right?). If you go through the site I referenced, you'll
see a number of pictures demonstrating exactly this issue. There's not a
lot you can do about it either as it's generally a limitation of the
videotape medium. Once it's burned to a DVD, you usually have the option to
pause (freeze) on a frame or a field. At least my 4-year old Pioneer does.
HTH.

Mike


Rus Davey wrote:
> Thanks for your quick reply.
>
> I've also noticed that when I pause my captured MiniDV videos, I can
> see two consecutive frames at once, interlaced into one frame. Can
> you help me to capture my MiniDV tapes without this problem.
>
> I have the same problem whether I use WinDV or Ulead VideoStudio7SE.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:34gmbuF4a78hnU1@individual.net...
>>
>> Rus Davey wrote:
>>> I captured a short (2 minute) promo video for a friend at the
>>> highest settings I could. e.g. High quality DVD.
>>>
>>> Then, when I made a DVD video file at 8000 kbps (vbr) it looks great
>>> on the computer screen. However, when burned to a DVD disc and
>>> played on my player, the video seems to shudder... when I hit
>>> 'step' to pause the video I see two consecutive frames flickering
>>> back and forth.
>>>
>>> Mind you, when I repeatedly hit 'zoom' the shuddering stops at other
>>> levels of zoom, until it gets back to the original 1:1 when it
>>> shudders again.
>>>
>>> I've noticed that a video file I copied from a movie DVD is MPEG-2,
>>> Field B,Variable bit rate (Max. 9800 kbps). Should I be using Field
>>> B to burn my discs?
>>
>> As you've discovered, the wrong field order is your problem. The
>> difficulty arises in determining the correct field order as some
>> software calls it (in your case) field A& B, sometimes field 1 & 2
>> and sometimes upper & lower field. Simply selecting the opposite of
>> what you originally did should fix it.
>> http://www.100fps.com/ gives several excellent examples of this
>> phenomenon.
>>
>> Mike