FIGHT eBay's HORRIBLE Price Increases - Meg MUST RESIGN!

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If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%

It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...

This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...

This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.

Here's the problem (Story broke on Jan 12th)

http://www.nolistingday.com/

Sign here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee&1

Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.

 

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In article <lCDFd.41$4Z6.4546@news.uswest.net>,
Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:

> If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%
>
We've heard. BFD.

> It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...

Yes it does.

>
> This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...
>
> This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.

No it's not.

> Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.

Sellers will just raise their prices to cover the expenses - as sellers
have been doing since the dawn on commerce.

I'll buy and sell as I please, ThankYouVeryMuch.

Mike

 

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Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.


"Paul McCahan" <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote in message
news:lCDFd.41$4Z6.4546@news.uswest.net...
> If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%
>
> It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...
>
> This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...
>
> This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.
>
> Here's the problem (Story broke on Jan 12th)
>
> http://www.nolistingday.com/
>
> Sign here:
>
> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee&1
>
> Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.

 

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In article <abc-EAEC28.07532714012005@28-76.newscene.com>,
Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:

> In article <lCDFd.41$4Z6.4546@news.uswest.net>,
> Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:
>
> > If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%
> >
> We've heard. BFD.
>
> > It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...
>
> Yes it does.
>
> >
> > This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...
> >
> > This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.
>
> No it's not.
>
> > Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.
>
> Sellers will just raise their prices to cover the expenses - as sellers
> have been doing since the dawn on commerce.
>
> I'll buy and sell as I please, ThankYouVeryMuch.
>
> Mike

How do eBay's new prices compare to Yahoo Auctions?

 

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In article <jzwick3-3E8F3D.07232314012005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

> How do eBay's new prices compare to Yahoo Auctions?

I have no idea. I've never used Yahoo auctions. Hell, I've never
even heard of Yahoo Auctions until just now.

Mike

 

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Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

> How do eBay's new prices compare to Yahoo Auctions?

Yahoo won't matter, it's probably cheaper, and soon MUCH cheaper,
problem is, if you don't have a market ----- your stuff won't sell.

eBay has you LOCKED in. When you add PayPal into the mix, they make it
near impossible to sell on the other Auction sites. That's the PROBLEM.

Join the PROTEST:

http://www.nolistingday.com

Sign the Petition!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee

 

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Mike wrote:
> In article <lCDFd.41$4Z6.4546@news.uswest.net>,
> Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:
>
>
>>If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%
>>
>
> We've heard. BFD.
>
>
>>It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...
>
>
> Yes it does.
>
>
>>This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...
>>
>>This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.
>
>
> No it's not.
>
>
>>Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.
>
>
> Sellers will just raise their prices to cover the expenses - as sellers
> have been doing since the dawn on commerce.
>
> I'll buy and sell as I please, ThankYouVeryMuch.
>
> Mike

You have to admit that this is quite a hike in price. In my business, if
I hiked prices by this margin, I would have to close my doors.

This will kill buying and selling low cost stuff since it won't be worth
selling it on eBay anymore, IMHO.
I've bought and sold many things on eBay, btw.

Nicolas

 

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You might try: ePier

Why jump in the Bay when you can buy items on the Pier.

http://www.epier.com/

http://www.bidville.com/

Craig's list is another idea - but eBay recently bought 25% of them, so
they may go under in the same way.

Big websites that don't concentrate on just Auctions aren't going to
work. Overstock is trying to do it too, but you need conentration from
the buyer and that's not going to happen on those sites.

Use snipping if you don't like bidding at the last minute, it will do it
for you.

http://www.snipeswipe.com/

 

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In article <fuWFd.50$c67.1080@news.uswest.net>,
Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:

> eBay has you LOCKED in. When you add PayPal into the mix, they make it
> near impossible to sell on the other Auction sites. That's the PROBLEM.

But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
cover these small increases. No one cares.

Mike

 

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In rec.video.desktop Nasht0n <nahda@na.ca> wrote:
: This will kill buying and selling low cost stuff since it won't be worth
: selling it on eBay anymore, IMHO.

Well, frankly, if it helps return eBay to its original role as
an AUCTION site, that would be good. The gazillions of duplicate
listings with buy-it-now trash has made it more and more difficult
to search for normal auctions.

Scott

 

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In article <ioUFd.1903$m31.22541@typhoon.sonic.net>,
sgordon@changethisparttohardbat.com wrote:

> Well, frankly, if it helps return eBay to its original role as
> an AUCTION site, that would be good. The gazillions of duplicate
> listings with buy-it-now trash has made it more and more difficult
> to search for normal auctions.

Most of things I buy on eBay are with BIN. I don't like waiting
around, frantically waiting as the last few minutes tick buy. I'd
rather just buy it and get it over with.

Mike

 

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In article <41e7ebaa$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, idontthinkso@mail.com
says...
> Subject: Re: FIGHT eBay's HORRIBLE Price Increases - Meg MUST RESIGN!
> From: "RS" <idontthinkso@mail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.video.ptv.tivo, rec.video.desktop, alt.autos.subaru
>
> Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
> to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
> its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.
>
>
> "Paul McCahan" <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote in message
> news:lCDFd.41$4Z6.4546@news.uswest.net...
> > If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%
> >
> > It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...
> >
> > This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...
> >
> > This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.
> >
> > Here's the problem (Story broke on Jan 12th)
> >
> > http://www.nolistingday.com/
> >
> > Sign here:
> >
> > http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee&1
> >
> > Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.
>
>
>
>

When I received the email that they were raising prices I had just been
talking to a friend about how great it must be to make millions of
dollars without actually selling or shipping anything. Now I have to
add to that, it must be beyond great to be able to double your profit by
simply saying, today I think I'll double our profit. Click, click. Ok,
done.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com

 

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In article <ioUFd.1903$m31.22541@typhoon.sonic.net>,
sgordon@changethisparttohardbat.com wrote:

> In rec.video.desktop Nasht0n <nahda@na.ca> wrote:
> : This will kill buying and selling low cost stuff since it won't be worth
> : selling it on eBay anymore, IMHO.
>
> Well, frankly, if it helps return eBay to its original role as
> an AUCTION site, that would be good. The gazillions of duplicate
> listings with buy-it-now trash has made it more and more difficult
> to search for normal auctions.

Easy. Just click on the 'auction' tab to eliminate BIY if you don't like
it.

 

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"Mike" <abc@def.ghi> wrote in message
news:abc-AAF70B.13075814012005@28-76.newscene.com...
> In article <jzwick3-3E8F3D.07232314012005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
> Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> How do eBay's new prices compare to Yahoo Auctions?
>
> I have no idea. I've never used Yahoo auctions. Hell, I've never
> even heard of Yahoo Auctions until just now.

Do you Yahoo?

 

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Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:

> But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
> cover these small increases. No one cares.
>
> Mike

Wrong Mike. Sounds as if you know little about economics.

An item that sells at auction for $10, like a set of 4 Lithium Batteries.

Will still sell after February 18th for $10.

PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.

The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.

In other words, it will make it less viable to sell your stuff on eBay,
thus less choice for buyers... This is a SERIOUS issues for the main
reason that eBay is just a website... they don't have any real cost
outside of maintaining a very complex server. They are spending money on
expensive TV commercials, buying up Rent.com, Craig's List, without our
approval, thus driving up OUR fees.

If you sold on eBay you'd be raging mad, if you buy on ebay, it won't
become clear that the show is going to get very quiet after Feb 18th.

Lot's of people are leaving.

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

ebay needs to solve this problem before it's too late.

 

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Well, the bigger they get ( Ebay ) the greedier they get.

 

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In article <fS0Gd.47$dk1.3159@news.uswest.net>,
Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:

> Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:
>
> > But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
> > cover these small increases. No one cares.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Wrong Mike. Sounds as if you know little about economics.
>
> An item that sells at auction for $10, like a set of 4 Lithium Batteries.
>
> Will still sell after February 18th for $10.
>
> PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
> about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.
>
> The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
> your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.

No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
you not understand?

Mike

 

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In article <abc-91C052.10160115012005@28-72.newscene.com>,
Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:

> In article <fS0Gd.47$dk1.3159@news.uswest.net>,
> Paul McCahan <mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:
> >
> > > But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
> > > cover these small increases. No one cares.
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> > Wrong Mike. Sounds as if you know little about economics.
> >
> > An item that sells at auction for $10, like a set of 4 Lithium Batteries.
> >
> > Will still sell after February 18th for $10.
> >
> > PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
> > about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.
> >
> > The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
> > your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.
>
> No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
> you not understand?

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.

 

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:55:51 -0500, Invid Fan <invid@localnet.com>
wrote:


>From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
>listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
>from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
>$10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.

I just bought a DSS multi switch for $0.01, and $14 shipping.

$14.01 was still deal for me, but eBay gets porked.

Barry

 

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Paul McCahan (mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> Lot's of people are leaving.
>
> http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

--
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| plastic surgery, and do you know what the
| statistics say?"
| "Yes...that 9 out of 10 men prefer women
| with big boobs."
| "And the 10th guy preferred the 9 other men."
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In article <MPG.1c53284375ec5342989a9d@news.nabs.net>,
Jeff Rife <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> Paul McCahan (mcahann@-NOSPAM-cs.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> > Lot's of people are leaving.
> >
> > http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm
>
> As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
> as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

Depends on what percentage of the leaving stores actually found and
signed the petition.

But, no, it's not likely to put eBay out of business. It will more
likely impact people like me - who occasionally sell a few items rather
than send them to Goodwill. If eBay's keeping 22% of the selling price,
why should I go through the hassle of selling?

 

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Jeff Rife <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> > http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm
>
> As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
> as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

yes, but that's an upstart website, alive for only a few days - the real
numbers are here:

Posted by webnet ( 8990 ) on Jan-12-05 at 19:40:27 PST Auctions AMAZING.
NOW since the last post at 19:26 stores 132,050 now its only 131,975 a
loss of 75 stores closed in the last 20 minutes. I will check again in
the morning to see how bad ebay has damaged themselves. AMAZING...
sellers SPEAK OUT.

I checked the number of stores earlier and found 5,180 pages of them
(@ 25 stores per page), hence the current count at 'about' 129,500.

To check the number do an advanced search, click on stores, search
with 'no' keyword entries, then click on list alphabetically ...... on
the results page scroll to the bottom and check the number of pages.
Multiply by 25.

 

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Invid Fan (invid@localnet.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
> listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
> from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
> $10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.

The new fee structure would make that happen even more often, not less.
Any time the eBay fees go up, sellers will raise their shipping costs to
compensate. It's the one place you can guarantee a fixed payment (assuming
your item sells at all).

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In article <trman-8B211F.09375115012005@news.central.cox.net>,
TravelinMan <trman@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
> > you not understand?
>
> The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
> market - not by the seller alone.

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
many are going to do that?

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

Mike

 

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In article <abc-8CE35A.17505715012005@28-76.newscene.com>,
Mike <abc@def.ghi> wrote:

> In article <trman-8B211F.09375115012005@news.central.cox.net>,
> TravelinMan <trman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
> > > you not understand?
> >
> > The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
> > market - not by the seller alone.
>
> Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
> Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
> Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
> many are going to do that?

That makes sense - IF eBay is the only route to market.

Hint: it isn't. And the other routes to market haven't had this amount
of a price increase.

>
> The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
> his price to cover his costs.
>
> I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
> raise prices. It has always been thus.

Of course, only eBay sellers have had this increase. Other routes to
market have not.

>
> There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
> There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
> example.

There are also competitive routes to market. eBay sellers have just been
placed at a _relative_ disadvantage (compared to where they were before).