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VIDEO: It's Doom 2 Running on a Color Calculator

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January 20, 2012 9:12:32 AM

Can it play Crysis?
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January 20, 2012 9:14:15 AM

Wow, thats pretty good, but I think my car's engine computer could run doom2 at this point now >_>
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January 20, 2012 9:16:06 AM

LOL.. Our calculators are now doing what computers did like 10-15 years ago..
What the heck are calculators of 2022 going to be able to do..? :|

Let alone computers..
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January 20, 2012 9:18:14 AM

Paid $100 for a bloody calculator, and had two stolen in a year... There must have been some reason the TI 83+ costs so bloody much. I'll admit, it does have great battery life, but I'd sooner use a bloody smartphone. Waiting a few minutes for it to do a calculation; doing complex equations and running out of memory; refusing to work when it's cold (I live in Canada, of course it's going to get cold in my book bag).
People have been making games for these for quite a while though. Neat to see there's finally something playable.
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January 20, 2012 9:24:28 AM

I always felt that graphing calculators were a huge rip-off: like textbooks, they're grossly overpriced because he makers know that students need them. The prices made sense back in the 1980s and 1990s, when such computing devices in a tiny space were unheard of. The Ti-83, -84, and -89 series were still just antiquated 1980s technology re-hashed over and over again. Until the Ti-89, the CPU was was a feeble Z80; some here might recall that was the kind of CPU used in the original Game Boy.

This shows us an improvement that's a start, at least: we've moved to a more modern ARM CPU, and on the slowest models it runs at least at 90 MHz. While this probably won't let you run, say, Quake, it'll be sufficient for 386/486-era games. And the jump to 16MB+ of SDRAM (from 256KB from the best Ti-89 and -92s) really helps as well.

Super_Nova said:
Can it play Crysis?

I think the answer is pretty self-evient.

Travis Beane said:
There must have been some reason the TI 83+ costs so bloody much.

It's the same reason the calculus textbooks you're using with it cost $150-200 (or more!) new.

Travis Beane said:
it does have great battery life <snip> Waiting a few minutes for it to do a calculation; doing complex equations and running out of memory;

These are both a result of the same thing... Having a Z80 @6MHz and only 32KB of RAM will do that for you.
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January 20, 2012 10:09:36 AM


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These are both a result of the same thing... Having a Z80 @6MHz and only 32KB of RAM will do that for you.

one could buy a smartphone with an 800 mhz ARM at that price and use wolframalpha to do the calculation (atleast the pretty basic ones, including graphs).
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January 20, 2012 10:30:17 AM

Super_NovaCan it play Crysis?


It might be able to play Crysis 2, without the patch of course.
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January 20, 2012 10:59:52 AM

Bravo to those who made it. I would have never guessed a calculator was capable of such a task.

Super_NovaCan it play Crysis?


Only on High, Ultra gets unacceptable performance.
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January 20, 2012 11:27:06 AM

joytech22LOL.. Our calculators are now doing what computers did like 10-15 years ago..What the heck are calculators of 2022 going to be able to do..? :|Let alone computers..


this is a graphing calculator correct? would a gpu like architecture benefit it? if so, it may get 3d games, but most likely nothing not programmed specifically for it, if we still have calculators that are stand alone by than.

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January 20, 2012 11:42:55 AM

oh just beautiful as if us american's and the youth of today don't already have enough ways to screw off when we should be working ... this is exactly why teh economy is at a state of fail , no one does any real work any more.
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January 20, 2012 11:47:01 AM

actually calculators in general are bad for society they are causing deminshed mental capacity of even our smartest people. My step dad went to college for a masters in electrical engineering , and he did not ever once use a calculator for his work.
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January 20, 2012 12:00:06 PM

I want to be impressed but calculators these days are essentially low budget mini computers. I must say that I was more impressed when a guy managed to make Quake 3 run on a MeeGo device.

I'm a little surprised that there is no good calculator software for smartphones/PDAs. I'm talking about real software where you can do 2D/3D plots, solve algebraic equations, compute integrals and derivatives, both numerically and symbolically.

Perhaps if there was a full blown version of Mathematica or Maple available for handhelds, then ...
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January 20, 2012 12:00:47 PM

demonhorde665actually calculators in general are bad for society they are causing deminshed mental capacity of even our smartest people. My step dad went to college for a masters in electrical engineering , and he did not ever once use a calculator for his work.


'bad' for society. As for the diminshed mental capacity, it may have required genius on a level of Newton to handle integration, it's now approachable by those in school , however those on substantially higher level on intellect have moved far beyond that of a graphic calculator and are probably trying to mathematically nail down string theory (which I imagine a calculator is not going to help much).

As for your step dad, hey may not have had a calculator, but if he did anything remotely challenging, he probably had a lookup table for natural logarythms at least one. Paper calculator.

Some use calculators because they can't handle simple multiplication, some use calculators to save time on menial (time consuming) calculations to get shit done.

Not to mention, the built in calculators in todays modern EPOS tills now allow retards to jockey cash registers accurately.
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January 20, 2012 12:18:11 PM

g00eyI want to be impressed but calculators these days are essentially low budget mini computers. I must say that I was more impressed when a guy managed to make Quake 3 run on a MeeGo device.I'm a little surprised that there is no good calculator software for smartphones/PDAs. I'm talking about real software where you can do 2D/3D plots, solve algebraic equations, compute integrals and derivatives, both numerically and symbolically.Perhaps if there was a full blown version of Mathematica or Maple available for handhelds, then ...


I'm sure people thought of that. Problem is, how do you stop piracy? You don't have to worry about it when it's a dedicated calculator.
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January 20, 2012 12:28:41 PM

ananthu123one could buy a smartphone with an 800 mhz ARM at that price and use wolframalpha to do the calculation (atleast the pretty basic ones, including graphs).

Exactly... While using add-on software or web services to handle these sort of thins on a phone is an inelegant solution compared to a dedicated device, cost-wise it makes a lot more sense. The main reason calculators still sell, then, is simply because they're required... And tests tend to ban the other things.

demonhorde665actually calculators in general are bad for society they are causing deminshed mental capacity of even our smartest people. My step dad went to college for a masters in electrical engineering , and he did not ever once use a calculator for his work.

Your step dad certainly used a calculator. Just not an electronic digital one. Ever hear of a slide rule? How to use them is, in fact, one thing they taught in engineering school back then.

It's a false accusation that computers are causing people to dumb down. Rather, it's enabling people to accomplish things that had previously been entirely out of their league. Handling and computing mathematical matrices is something that was too cumbersome to be practical a few decades ago, in spite of their growing degree of criticality in the realm of physics... Now with computers we handle it without nary a thought. Similarly, thanks to computers, the level of precision in calculations (in terms of significant digits) has also gone up dramatically; those doing it by pencil-and-paper typically stop at 5 digits... Now, single-precision math does it at 7, and double-precision (which is used for all actual scientific and engineering applications) yields nearly 16 digits of precision.

As Bobser said, for some of us, we CAN handle menial math just fine; we just want to focus on the big, important things without sweating the small stuff. We'll handle the entire equation, while letting a computer handling the tiny addition and multiplication stuff.
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January 20, 2012 12:38:16 PM

The demo is actually the first stage of Doom 1. Not sure why they named it Doom 2. Still one of my favorie FPS.
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January 20, 2012 12:40:37 PM

B.b.b.but mine can say BOOBS and HELL and HELLO and... It's sunlight rechargable. /runs away
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January 20, 2012 1:04:49 PM

billybobser...

No, demonhorde665 has a point. Things such as calculators, cell phones, television and GPS tend to dumb people down significantly. While there's nothing wrong with calculators per se it is very wrong with using them when for example teaching math.

A calculator sure is a good tool to have sometimes but in no way is it essential. If problems become so complicated that you can't solve them with pen and paper we're talking about problems that lie beyond what you can do with a basic calculator.

Most if not all integrals, differential equations and so on that can be solved symbolically can be solved with pen and paper. Sometimes you may need to use a mathematics handbook to save time and to make sure that you're on the right path but never a calculator. If you cannot solve it symbolically then you will need a computer, not a calculator. Admittedly it is nice to enter an expression into Mathematica and press enter; it is convenient but you learn nothing from it.
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January 20, 2012 1:23:50 PM

gto127The demo is actually the first stage of Doom 1. Not sure why they named it Doom 2. Still one of my favorie FPS.

If you continued to watch, they also load up and play the first level of Doom 2.

g00eyit is convenient but you learn nothing from it.

Here's the crux of where you're of on your reasoning: those of us doing engineering and scientific work are beyond being in grade school, and often beyond any school at all. There's no point in repeating stuff you already quite thoroughly know and understand. It's like saying you should always keep doing long division, or writing out problems when they're simple enough to do mentally.

When there's no learning to be done, there is zero point to writing things out and taking vastly longer to solve an equation other than killing trees. And in the REAL world, when there's a REASON we're doing all this math, time is at a premium: one can't afford to waste time. (believe it or not, there's a use for math outside of the classroom! It's called science and engineering)
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January 20, 2012 2:08:03 PM

More fun then Rage. I want a open world doom 4.
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January 20, 2012 2:39:01 PM

"nottheking" ... gooey is talking about regular people, not students of engineering. He is right in what he said. People get use to solving problems by pressing few buttons that they no longer know what they are doing. The article is about calculator for things I know nothing off, so I guess people who need them do some really complicated stuff which would be otherwise tedious and time consuming (I finished mechanic high school, so i had a glance how tedious calculation regarding material strength can be). So yeah, they might need them. Majority of population could well do without calculators in everyday life.
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January 20, 2012 2:40:19 PM

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Neat to see there's finally something playable


You sir, forget Tetris. That game managed to get me a b- in high school calculus.
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January 20, 2012 3:31:27 PM

When talking about the calculator's affect on society, I think some immediately point to the dumb students who are so tied to their calculators that they don't know what the fractions 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 are in decimal form by memory (yes it's scary but some don't know). I don't think these students reflect all of society. The students who have to use their calculators for everything are generally students who get poor grades anyway. The majority of students who use a calculator I believe know how to slove problems without one because our educational system does a good job in teaching how to solve problems by hand (especially in the early grades). I think the bigger problem is that a majority of the teenagers growing up in our society look at the professional sports teams and movie stars and believe that they don't need to learn anyhing in school because they will be these famous people when they grow up. Or they set their goals low and say they will work in a factory when they grow up (of course these jobs are now disappearing). I believe this trend in society started to develop around the same time technology was gaining in prominence and that we use technology as a scapegoat for the fact that our society is getting lazier and stupider because of the media. I think calculators make math accessable to those who would otherwise not even try to learn.
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January 20, 2012 3:32:50 PM

whoopie dip!
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January 20, 2012 4:36:14 PM

The smart person created the application and got it to run on a calculator. To keep his level of intelligence higher than others, he gave them access to the game.
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January 20, 2012 4:46:53 PM

Calculators ARE DUMBING people down!! I have asked many so called math "experts" to find the 5th, 3rd and square root of 7 to 6 correct decimal places and they could not do it!!!! I am talking about PHd type people here!! They cannot even find the SIN or COSINE of something like 17 degrees to 6 correct decimal places without a calculator!!! Not even contemporary math books teach these old methods anymore.
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January 20, 2012 5:39:04 PM

Is there a nude mod for this?
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January 20, 2012 5:42:57 PM

Oh, and the claim DOOM was running on a TI-83 previously was inaccurate. It was actually run on an older model Nspire that has a grayscale screen rather than the color one. Other than that, the specs are the same.
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January 20, 2012 6:12:58 PM

calculators aren't dumbing people down..it just makes life easier for the people like me, who don't focus their career on solving math equations. I have a different job in mind to make myself so called "intellectual."
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January 20, 2012 8:14:36 PM

Travis BeanePaid $100 for a bloody calculator, and had two stolen in a year... There must have been some reason the TI 83+ costs so bloody much. I'll admit, it does have great battery life, but I'd sooner use a bloody smartphone. Waiting a few minutes for it to do a calculation; doing complex equations and running out of memory; refusing to work when it's cold (I live in Canada, of course it's going to get cold in my book bag).People have been making games for these for quite a while though. Neat to see there's finally something playable.


School board: "NO! YOU'RE GOING TO CHEAT WITH THAT CELLPHONE, AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE USING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!"

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January 20, 2012 8:27:50 PM

Calculators don't dumb people down,it is the person that tries to be smart by using a calculator,and ignoring concepts and procedures,lots of them are just a key sequences munching bots .
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January 20, 2012 8:53:46 PM

Well if SOPA passes into law. You will be put in jail for porting software on other platforms.
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January 20, 2012 9:14:14 PM

Super_NovaCan it play Crysis?

I actually opened this article to see how long it took someone to ask this question. Sadly, I was not disappointed.
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January 21, 2012 12:51:47 AM

joytech22LOL.. Our calculators are now doing what computers did like 10-15 years ago..What the heck are calculators of 2022 going to be able to do..? :|Let alone computers..
Yeah overpriced $150 calculators hardly impressive I'm sure you can get a $150 tablet that could run more than doom 2 for that much or $100 wii can be hacked to run quake 2 CTF.
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January 21, 2012 2:33:02 AM

Travis BeanePaid $100 for a bloody calculator, and had two stolen in a year... There must have been some reason the TI 83+ costs so bloody much. I'll admit, it does have great battery life, but I'd sooner use a bloody smartphone. Waiting a few minutes for it to do a calculation; doing complex equations and running out of memory; refusing to work when it's cold (I live in Canada, of course it's going to get cold in my book bag).People have been making games for these for quite a while though. Neat to see there's finally something playable.

It's a ripoff, with that ancient hardware. 1.5 MEGABYTES of storage on the top end model (TI-84 Silver). 24KB memory on all of them. Really? And it has a slow refresh rate, monochrome screen, transfers things (to/from a computer or another calculator, oh yeah the TI-83 doesn't even have a usb port) at a slower speed than dialup... kinda of a POS... at least I can run tetris on one...
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January 21, 2012 2:35:46 AM

notthekingIt's the same reason the calculus textbooks you're using with it cost $150-200 (or more!) new.These are both a result of the same thing... Having a Z80 @6MHz and only 32KB of RAM will do that for you.

Kinda annoying, since students tend to not have all that much money. (I can definitely see myself buying a ereader and pirating all my textbooks in college because buying them costs so much.) Oh btw, the TI-83 and TI-84 have 24KB ram, not 32KB. Even the highest-end model, the TI-84 Silver, has only 1.5MB storage. Yes, megabytes! If they put an SD slot in there, I'd actually have a use for those 32MB SD cards I have that came with cameras that people gave me.
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January 21, 2012 2:39:39 AM

A Bad DaySchool board: "NO! YOU'RE GOING TO CHEAT WITH THAT CELLPHONE, AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE USING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!"Detention

I already figured out how you can put notes on a calculator (make a new program, and type stuff in it, though obviously you can't actually execute that; maybe you can write the program on a PC and then transfer it via USB to the calculator). lol And even when I just had a basic calculator (TI30XA), I figured out that you could put matte tape on it and then write in pencil on it (keep in mind that I just put the tape there because I didn't like the glossy finish around the screen causing reflections, and didn't actually cheat with it).
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January 21, 2012 4:06:38 AM

livebriandIt's a ripoff, with that ancient hardware. 1.5 MEGABYTES of storage on the top end model (TI-84 Silver). 24KB memory on all of them. Really? And it has a slow refresh rate, monochrome screen, transfers things (to/from a computer or another calculator, oh yeah the TI-83 doesn't even have a usb port) at a slower speed than dialup... kinda of a POS... at least I can run tetris on one...

The new models aren't too bad. The one in the demo has a 90mhz CPU (but you can overclock it to 150 easily), 64MB of RAM and 128MB of flash.
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January 21, 2012 7:06:54 AM

That's nothing. I can run doom on my fridges display.
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January 21, 2012 8:37:24 AM

a lot of you people missed my original point and some a-holes even gave my original point 3 thumbs down. YOU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING GAMES ON A CALCULATOR period. it is a strait up work tool. would you like your kids to be f---ing off playing games on their calculator in high school instead of doing their work? how would you feel about getting open heart surgery form a "doctor" that half a--ed his way through med school and played games on the school computers instead of using them for study ? wow would you like to fly in an air plane designed by an engineer that screwed off playing games on his calculator while he was designing said plane ?

we don't need new way's to screw off on work tools Any one that gives me a thumbs down for making this VERY valid statement, doesn't deserve to ever do any thing more important than fix some one's hamburger, because you obviously miss the point of WHY YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE GAMES ON A WORK DEVICE.
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January 21, 2012 4:33:18 PM

If only I would have had one of those in high school. Until I saw this video I felt spoiled having tetris and mario running on my TI 84.
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January 21, 2012 6:35:56 PM

has anyone figured out how to overclock their calculator?
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January 21, 2012 8:01:11 PM

Would be more impressed if it was Quake
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January 22, 2012 5:14:50 AM

demonhorde665a lot of you people missed my original point and some a-holes even gave my original point 3 thumbs down. YOU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING GAMES ON A CALCULATOR period. it is a strait up work tool. would you like your kids to be f---ing off playing games on their calculator in high school instead of doing their work? how would you feel about getting open heart surgery form a "doctor" that half a--ed his way through med school and played games on the school computers instead of using them for study ? wow would you like to fly in an air plane designed by an engineer that screwed off playing games on his calculator while he was designing said plane ? we don't need new way's to screw off on work tools Any one that gives me a thumbs down for making this VERY valid statement, doesn't deserve to ever do any thing more important than fix some one's hamburger, because you obviously miss the point of WHY YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE GAMES ON A WORK DEVICE.


Your examples seem extraordinarily unrealistic. An airplane can't be designed by someone playing a game on a calculator, it would never be built if it had flaws caused by this and even then I'm not sure of if calculators play a huge part in air foil design. Also, how could someone get through a school of any kind that more or less requires a calculator and they play games on it rather than spend their time properly? such a person would never become a doctor, he/she would never be allowed to graduate.

Besides all that, who are you to tell other people how to use their stuff? I can grab my TI-84+ and do whatever I want with it regardless of what you think or believe because you have no control nor any right to any control over what I do unless it endangers someone. Me playing Doom 2 on my calculator doesn't endanger you nor anyone else. A computer can be just as much of a work device as a calculator but that doesn't mean I've never played games on my computers.

Furthermore, why does a doctor doing open heart surgery need a calculator? I'm not an expert in surgery and am a little perplexed by this statement of yours.

Do to your failure to provide compelling evidence to support your apparent claims that calculators should never have games and your total lack of disrespect for the other people on this forum I felt giving you a thumbs down was justified. That's my opinion and whining/trolling me or anyone else for disliking your post when you seem to have failed to provide thought-out comments is just that, whining and trolling.
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