Vegas and Dual Head video card?

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Hi,

I'm on the verge of upgrading from Premiere 6.5 to Pro 1.5, but thought
I would check out Vegas Video before made a move.

I'm really unimpressed right out of the gate, and all I've tried to do
is play video back on the TV connected to my Matrox Dual Head G550.

Apparently Vegas doesn't support dual head video cards in terms of full
screen preview? It will only do it through a firewire connection? WTF?

I did find an explicit mention of special Matrox Dual Head configuration
in the Vegas help files, but it directed me to the "Preview" tab in the
Preferences dialog. But guess what? There is no "preview" tab in the
Preferences dialog, so it appears the help file included with this 30-
day trial is from a different version of Vegas.

I'm no great fan of Premiere 6.5 -- it reliably crashes when editing
titles or video effects -- but I've had Vegas installed for less than 30
minutes and already it seems needlessly complicated and bug-ridden for
functionality that Premiere 6.5 supports out of the box. (I assume 1.5
does also, right? Or is this a new feature of all video software?)

Or am I missing something?

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Vegas is extremely simple once you get the hang of it. When I first started
with it as Sonic Foundry Vegas Video 1, after migrating over from Premiere,
I used to shake my head and say, "Is that it? That's all I had to do to get
something like that?" They've only gotten better and more innovative with
each release.

Here's a prime example:
http://www.superexoticar.com/images/9_screen.wmv

That took all of 4 minutes to complete (longer to do the actual render), but
that takes me forever in Premiere to accomplish, besides it being a tedious
pain in the a$$.

I'm a Vegas fan and user and I'm not going back to Adobe. Even though they
are still on the machine, I fire them up once in a while to see how long
something takes me. (AP 6.5 and Pro)

I use the preview window all the time and it gives me a pretty good idea of
what I'll get. If I really, really need to see a particular segment, I
render it to RAM. Plays back just fine with the right amount of memory on
your machine. I've only got 1GB, but it will preview quite a bit, even with
a lot of filtering, etc.

Give it a real hard look before you dismiss it. The first time a drove a
Corvette, I wasn't all that impressed either.

rqo

"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:35lhgqF4km3rhU1@individual.net...
> Travis Pupkin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm on the verge of upgrading from Premiere 6.5 to Pro 1.5, but
>> thought I would check out Vegas Video before made a move.
>>
>> I'm really unimpressed right out of the gate, and all I've tried to do
>> is play video back on the TV connected to my Matrox Dual Head G550.
>>
>> Apparently Vegas doesn't support dual head video cards in terms of
>> full screen preview? It will only do it through a firewire
>> connection? WTF?
>
>
> As you've discovered, Vegas only outputs on the firewire port. The pupose
> of the "Preview" window is exactly that, to preview what's on your
> timeline
> to see if you like it. With a dual-head card, you can drag the preview
> window to the second monitor and make it as big as you want. If you have
> too many layers to allow for smooth playback )i.e. 30 frames/sec.), you
> can
> do a "RAM Render" and it'll allow you to see a portion of it at full
> speed.
> The more RAM you have, the longer the clip can be.
> If you want to see it on an external monitor or your TV set, you'll have
> to
> either use a device like a Canopus ADVC 100 or your miniDV camcorder in
> pass-through mode. BTW, Vegas has been like that since it's inception and
> not too many people complain about it.
>
>
>
>> I did find an explicit mention of special Matrox Dual Head
>> configuration in the Vegas help files, but it directed me to the
>> "Preview" tab in the Preferences dialog. But guess what? There is no
>> "preview" tab in the Preferences dialog, so it appears the help file
>> included with this 30- day trial is from a different version of Vegas.
>
>
> The "Preview" tab they're referring to is the icon that looks like a TV
> set
> just above the Preview window. Click on it and it pops up the Options -
> Preferences - Video Device tab. You can try switching it to the "Video
> for
> Windows Standard" setting but I have no idea what that opion does as I've
> never used it.
>
>
>> I'm no great fan of Premiere 6.5 -- it reliably crashes when editing
>> titles or video effects -- but I've had Vegas installed for less than
>> 30 minutes and already it seems needlessly complicated and bug-ridden
>> for functionality that Premiere 6.5 supports out of the box. (I
>> assume 1.5 does also, right? Or is this a new feature of all video
>> software?)
>>
>> Or am I missing something?
>
>
> "...needlessly complicated and bug-ridden for functionality..."
>
> Care to expand on that statement? I've been using Vegas for the past 2
> years and remain very happy with it. BTW, my other edit suite is a
> dpsVelocity ($$$) and there are features Vegas has had since version 1
> that
> it still doesn't (for example, pan&scan and handling more than 8 channels
> of
> audio in realtime).
>
> Mike
>

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In article <e2hJd.95115$zy6.89726@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, safetyo-
nospam@bellsouthnospam.net says...
> Vegas is extremely simple once you get the hang of it. When I first started
> with it as Sonic Foundry Vegas Video 1, after migrating over from Premiere,
> I used to shake my head and say, "Is that it? That's all I had to do to get
> something like that?" They've only gotten better and more innovative with
> each release.
>
> Here's a prime example:
> http://www.superexoticar.com/images/9_screen.wmv
>
> That took all of 4 minutes to complete (longer to do the actual render), but
> that takes me forever in Premiere to accomplish, besides it being a tedious
> pain in the a$$.


Now that's a good selling point and looks very nice.

The lack of support for a Matrox dual head video card is a big minus for
me, though. Now if Premiere Pro also doesn't support the dualhead, I'll
take another look.