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To add just another thought.
The systems Forbidden provide - I have observed from reading their web
site / published literature - are built with a certain vision in mind
where video is as common as text or still images - in order to acheive
this they have taken a view of the problem from one end to the other -
and tried to make the whole process as seemless and easy to use as
possible.
The approach of products like Windows Media Player etc. focus on one
thing only - the playing of media - and in this respect they only
solve one small piece of the puzzle of publishing video on the
internet. Consequently any solution that relies on this mentality can
appear fragmented and over complex.
It is astounding is it not that whilst software like WMP are solving
only one part of this video puzzle, they still manage to become the
most bloated and complex things - the idiom "less can be more" is well
and truly lost on them.
This fragmentation and over complexity is I believe part of the reason
why video is so little used on the internet today where only a
fraction of the +4bn pages use it.
Regards.
(mecat) wrote in message news:<c645016b.0502221541.8096c59@posting.google.com>...
> PolarLight,
>
> I have some familiarity with Forbidden's video and would like to offer
> my comments:
>
> ==============================
>
> [How would you encode the video, what format would you use?]
>
> This is very easy, the content is uploaded and remains on their own
> servers.
> There are two ways to get it there.
> (1) You can post them a tape / cd etc.
> (2) But the easiest and cheapest way is (if you have a DV camera and
> broadband) upload this direct over the internet from your camera and
> their ForUpload software
> Once it is on their servers it can be edited and published, all you
> need to do to incorporate the finished video in a web page is to
> insert an HTML reference.
>
> ==============================
>
> [Is Java a viable option now it's not built into the latest versions
> of
> Windows? (I'm running XP & had to download Java)]
>
> I do not think this is a problem.
> Java is massive on mobile phones and many web sites now use Java
> applets. If Bill G wants to boycot Java (because his company didn't
> think of it first and cannot make any money from it) that's his
> problem and it won't stop Java from being a success - I recently
> bought an HP laptop - Java came preinstalled.
>
> ==============================
>
> [Most likely these are Flash based sites that you have seen.]
>
> In this case Flash is just like Windows Media Player / Real Player
> etc.
> The problem these have is that you need the specific application
> software resident on your system before you select the video.
> They also become out of date, requiring constant maintenance by the
> end user each time some bright spark decides to release a new version.
> In the case of Forbidden's systems, they rely only on the general
> purpose Java system being installed, and their video player
> application software is downloaded with the video content - so the
> player can incorporate any updates without the end user having to be
> aware of an upgrade having taken place.
> This is only possible because of a compact and efficient video player.
>
> IMO client software like Windows Media Player are over bloated and
> unsuited to delivering video over the internet.
>
> Forbidden video on the other hand are far more net friendly - they use
> Java applets which integrate into the fabric of a web page, are super
> efficient, do not attempt to be all things to all people, are portable
> over different platforms (Mac, Linux.. ), and are distributed over
> HTTP which means it goes through firewalls.
>
> There are other Java video companies but none come close to offering
> the level of sophistication and breadth.
>
> Hope this helps.
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