Streaming MPEG vs. WMV

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Well, it seems that I have been somewhat successful in removing the "overscan"
artifacts in my video clips.

I have been able to remove them completely when I use TMPGEnc. Under "MPEG
setting" I use Advanced-Clip frame. Works like a charm. I'm so proud of myself :)

Strangely, noone on the ng has pointed me to this program, and this function of
it to do this. I wonder if anyone else has ever used this feature of TMPGEnc.
I can't imagine to have been the first one.

So for now, I can at least clip the overscan artifacts from my videos that are
meant to be played back on the PC, as long as I save them as MPEG files. I have
not yet found a solution for WMV or DV-AVI formats. There must be a way to do
this also. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.

I did for WMV in a somewhat roundabout way.

Please take a look at http://abrasha.com/misc/video_test.htm

There are 4 links on this page. I used two separate video sources. Both were
analog.

The first two is just a short clip test of my oldest son playing his violin at a
school talent share a few years ago. The "Dimitri talent share capture" file is
a WMV file unchanged after it was captured to my PC, using my digital camcorder
as a pass through device. I thought that video was captured in DV-AVI format.
I guess I was wrong.

The "Dimitri talent share rendered" file was rendered in Windows Movie Maker. As
render "Movie Setting" I picked "Video for broadband (340 Kbps)" Both clips
show the overscan artifacts. Both of the files are WMV files and they stream
nicely in my browsers.

The next clip "Pin 23 - MPEG", is the video that I talked about earlier in
another thread about my artifact frustrations. The source video was Betacam SP.
I was able to get rid of the artifacts nicely with TMPGEnc. I also used noise
reduction. I am pleased with the results, given that this is my very first
endeavor into DV work.

The frustrating part with this MPEG file, is that it won't stream from my web
site. At cable modem speeds, it is a between 2 and 3 minute download, after
which one can finally play it. People are not going to want to do this. Such
is the nature of the Web. The file needs to stream.

So I now took this same MPEG file, and I imported it into Windows Movie Maker.
I then reencoded it with as "Movie Setting" "Video for broadband (150 Kbps)"
The result was WMV the file you see on the page. Now it streams nicely, and
people can watch my video without having to wait for the entire file to
download. But it doesn't look very good I think.

Now this is my question!

Is there a way to make an MPEG file stream like a WMV file?

The reason I want to do this is as follows. When I play the MPEG file with
Quicktime it looks much better then when I play it with Windows Media Player.
In WMP the colors are totally washed out. I have nothing but hot spots all over
the entire video. In QT it looks great. Try this. I am sure you will see the
difference.

So, is there a way to make an MPEG file stream the same way as a WMV file?

Or am I going about this completely wrong and backwards?

Thanks is advance.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com
 
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Abrasha wrote:
> Well, it seems that I have been somewhat successful in removing the
> "overscan"
> artifacts in my video clips.
>
> I have been able to remove them completely when I use TMPGEnc. Under "MPEG
> setting" I use Advanced-Clip frame. Works like a charm. I'm so proud
> of myself :)
>
> Strangely, noone on the ng has pointed me to this program, and this
> function of
> it to do this. I wonder if anyone else has ever used this feature of
> TMPGEnc.
> I can't imagine to have been the first one.
>
> So for now, I can at least clip the overscan artifacts from my videos
> that are
> meant to be played back on the PC, as long as I save them as MPEG
> files. I have
> not yet found a solution for WMV or DV-AVI formats. There must be a way
> to do
> this also. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I did for WMV in a somewhat roundabout way.
>
> Please take a look at http://abrasha.com/misc/video_test.htm
>
> There are 4 links on this page. I used two separate video sources.
> Both were analog.
>
> The first two is just a short clip test of my oldest son playing his
> violin at a
> school talent share a few years ago. The "Dimitri talent share capture"
> file is
> a WMV file unchanged after it was captured to my PC, using my digital
> camcorder
> as a pass through device. I thought that video was captured in DV-AVI
> format. I guess I was wrong.
>
> The "Dimitri talent share rendered" file was rendered in Windows Movie
> Maker. As render "Movie Setting" I picked "Video for broadband (340
> Kbps)" Both clips show the overscan artifacts. Both of the files are
> WMV files and they stream nicely in my browsers.
>
> The next clip "Pin 23 - MPEG", is the video that I talked about earlier in
> another thread about my artifact frustrations. The source video was
> Betacam SP. I was able to get rid of the artifacts nicely with
> TMPGEnc. I also used noise reduction. I am pleased with the results,
> given that this is my very first endeavor into DV work.
>
> The frustrating part with this MPEG file, is that it won't stream from
> my web
> site. At cable modem speeds, it is a between 2 and 3 minute download,
> after which one can finally play it. People are not going to want to do
> this. Such is the nature of the Web. The file needs to stream.
>
> So I now took this same MPEG file, and I imported it into Windows Movie
> Maker. I then reencoded it with as "Movie Setting" "Video for broadband
> (150 Kbps)" The result was WMV the file you see on the page. Now it
> streams nicely, and people can watch my video without having to wait for
> the entire file to download. But it doesn't look very good I think.
>
> Now this is my question!
>
> Is there a way to make an MPEG file stream like a WMV file?
>
> The reason I want to do this is as follows. When I play the MPEG file with
> Quicktime it looks much better then when I play it with Windows Media
> Player.
> In WMP the colors are totally washed out. I have nothing but hot spots
> all over the entire video. In QT it looks great. Try this. I am sure
> you will see the difference.
>
> So, is there a way to make an MPEG file stream the same way as a WMV file?
>
> Or am I going about this completely wrong and backwards?
>
> Thanks is advance.
>
> Abrasha
> http://www.abrasha.com


Well?!? Thanks for nothing folks!

Abrasha
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"Abrasha" <abrasha@abrasha.com> wrote in message
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> Abrasha wrote:
>> Well, it seems that I have been somewhat successful in removing the
>> "overscan"
>> artifacts in my video clips.
>>
>> I have been able to remove them completely when I use TMPGEnc. Under
>> "MPEG
>> setting" I use Advanced-Clip frame. Works like a charm. I'm so proud of
>> myself :)
>>
>> Strangely, noone on the ng has pointed me to this program, and this
>> function of
>> it to do this. I wonder if anyone else has ever used this feature of
>> TMPGEnc.
>> I can't imagine to have been the first one.
>>
>> So for now, I can at least clip the overscan artifacts from my videos
>> that are
>> meant to be played back on the PC, as long as I save them as MPEG files.
>> I have
>> not yet found a solution for WMV or DV-AVI formats. There must be a way
>> to do
>> this also. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> I did for WMV in a somewhat roundabout way.
>>
>> Please take a look at http://abrasha.com/misc/video_test.htm
>>
>> There are 4 links on this page. I used two separate video sources. Both
>> were analog.
>>
>> The first two is just a short clip test of my oldest son playing his
>> violin at a
>> school talent share a few years ago. The "Dimitri talent share capture"
>> file is
>> a WMV file unchanged after it was captured to my PC, using my digital
>> camcorder
>> as a pass through device. I thought that video was captured in DV-AVI
>> format. I guess I was wrong.
>>
>> The "Dimitri talent share rendered" file was rendered in Windows Movie
>> Maker. As render "Movie Setting" I picked "Video for broadband (340
>> Kbps)" Both clips show the overscan artifacts. Both of the files are
>> WMV files and they stream nicely in my browsers.
>>
>> The next clip "Pin 23 - MPEG", is the video that I talked about earlier
>> in
>> another thread about my artifact frustrations. The source video was
>> Betacam SP. I was able to get rid of the artifacts nicely with TMPGEnc.
>> I also used noise reduction. I am pleased with the results, given that
>> this is my very first endeavor into DV work.
>>
>> The frustrating part with this MPEG file, is that it won't stream from my
>> web
>> site. At cable modem speeds, it is a between 2 and 3 minute download,
>> after which one can finally play it. People are not going to want to do
>> this. Such is the nature of the Web. The file needs to stream.
>>
>> So I now took this same MPEG file, and I imported it into Windows Movie
>> Maker. I then reencoded it with as "Movie Setting" "Video for broadband
>> (150 Kbps)" The result was WMV the file you see on the page. Now it
>> streams nicely, and people can watch my video without having to wait for
>> the entire file to download. But it doesn't look very good I think.
>>
>> Now this is my question!
>>
>> Is there a way to make an MPEG file stream like a WMV file?
>>
>> The reason I want to do this is as follows. When I play the MPEG file
>> with
>> Quicktime it looks much better then when I play it with Windows Media
>> Player.
>> In WMP the colors are totally washed out. I have nothing but hot spots
>> all over the entire video. In QT it looks great. Try this. I am sure
>> you will see the difference.
>>
>> So, is there a way to make an MPEG file stream the same way as a WMV
>> file?
>>
>> Or am I going about this completely wrong and backwards?
>>
>> Thanks is advance.
>>
>> Abrasha
>> http://www.abrasha.com
>
>
> Well?!? Thanks for nothing folks!
>
> Abrasha
> http://www.abrasha.com

I didn't have any answers to contribute to your earlier questions. But, I
was interested in the thread. Thanks for posting your solutions. However,
the attitude displayed in the post above is most revealing of the kind of
person you are. Did you think that would make people want to try to help
you in the future? What a shame you are such a jerk.

Steve King