Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Remote assistance V remote desktop

Tags:
  • Remote Desktop
  • Microsoft
  • Software
  • Windows XP
Last response: in Windows XP
Share
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 10:57:04 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
software without actually being there...

More about : remote assistance remote desktop

Anonymous
January 11, 2005 1:26:21 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

From the FAQ...

Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?

A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
differences between these features.

a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at another
computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access to
files and applications.
b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box. The
helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.

Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
> Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
> above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
> software without actually being there...
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 1:26:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

Hmm, ok.. so will remote assistance work if the 'damsel in distress' doesnt
have XP? would that jus make it more difficult to set up..?

"Sooner Al" wrote:

> From the FAQ...
>
> Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?
>
> A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
> differences between these features.
>
> a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at another
> computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access to
> files and applications.
> b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
> provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box. The
> helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.
>
> Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...
>
> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...
>
> --
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>
> "Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
> > Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
> > above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
> > software without actually being there...
>
>
Related resources
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 2:21:50 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

You both need to be running XP (Pro or Home) in order to use Remote Assistance. The 'damsel in
distress' also needs to be running XP Pro in order for you to use Remote Desktop.

So, an alternative is VNC. I recommend UltraVNC with its encryption plug-in...

http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
http://home.comcast.net/%7Emsrc4plugin/

Run the UltraVNC server on the remote machine and use a *STRONG* password. If the remote PC is
behind a firewall, open TCP Port 5900.

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:14E3DE6D-7390-489C-B28E-0EE8140D35C5@microsoft.com...
> Hmm, ok.. so will remote assistance work if the 'damsel in distress' doesnt
> have XP? would that jus make it more difficult to set up..?
>
> "Sooner Al" wrote:
>
>> From the FAQ...
>>
>> Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?
>>
>> A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
>> differences between these features.
>>
>> a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at
>> another
>> computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access to
>> files and applications.
>> b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
>> provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box.
>> The
>> helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.
>>
>> Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...
>>
>> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...
>>
>> --
>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>>
>> "Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
>> > Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
>> > above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
>> > software without actually being there...
>>
>>
January 11, 2005 9:48:10 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

if i am not mistaken, Remote Assistance was included in NetMeeting,
before WindowsXP came into existence. therefore, you could still use
Remote Assistance by running NetMeeting, without having WindowsXP.

within the context you are asking about though, you could not use Remote
Assistance to install software on a remote PC, if the software you want
to install is not on or accessible to the remote PC (e.g. if the
software is in your hands). using Remote Assistance, you could install
the software on the remote PC, only if the software you want to install
is accessible to the remote PC.

now regarding Remote Desktop Connection (RDC).

using Remote Desktop Connection, you could install your software on the
remote PC, regardless of where it is (e.g. your local PC or the remote
PC), because your local disk drives can be accessed by the remote PC, as
well as vice-versa. the remote PC must have Windows XP Pro in order to
provide the server functionality, as mentioned by another posting.

the local client PC (used to connect to the remote) needs to have the
client RDC software. the client RDC software is included in Windows XP
Pro and Home. for other versions of Windows, the client RDC software
can be easily installed, either from the XP installation CD or from any
other media that contains the proper installation executable.

that's the advantage of Remote Desktop Connection. with Remote
Assistance, you are just remotely watching over the shoulder or (with
permission) remotely controlling the remote mouse and remote keyboard.



Arachnia wrote:
> Hmm, ok.. so will remote assistance work if the 'damsel in distress' doesnt
> have XP? would that jus make it more difficult to set up..?
>
> "Sooner Al" wrote:
>
>
>>From the FAQ...
>>
>>Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?
>>
>>A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
>>differences between these features.
>>
>>a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at another
>>computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access to
>>files and applications.
>>b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
>>provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box. The
>>helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.
>>
>>Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...
>>
>>http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...
>>
>>--
>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>
>>Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
>>The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>>
>>"Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
>>>above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
>>>software without actually being there...
>>
>>
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 9:48:11 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

Your confusing NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing with Remote Assistance... They are not the same and
are not compatible. With that said, your correct and you could use NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
to access the remote PC for maintenance, etc...

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToThisNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
news:KbVEd.1950$7N1.804@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> if i am not mistaken, Remote Assistance was included in NetMeeting, before WindowsXP came into
> existence. therefore, you could still use Remote Assistance by running NetMeeting, without having
> WindowsXP.
>
> within the context you are asking about though, you could not use Remote Assistance to install
> software on a remote PC, if the software you want to install is not on or accessible to the remote
> PC (e.g. if the software is in your hands). using Remote Assistance, you could install the
> software on the remote PC, only if the software you want to install is accessible to the remote
> PC.
>
> now regarding Remote Desktop Connection (RDC).
>
> using Remote Desktop Connection, you could install your software on the remote PC, regardless of
> where it is (e.g. your local PC or the remote PC), because your local disk drives can be accessed
> by the remote PC, as well as vice-versa. the remote PC must have Windows XP Pro in order to
> provide the server functionality, as mentioned by another posting.
>
> the local client PC (used to connect to the remote) needs to have the client RDC software. the
> client RDC software is included in Windows XP Pro and Home. for other versions of Windows, the
> client RDC software can be easily installed, either from the XP installation CD or from any other
> media that contains the proper installation executable.
>
> that's the advantage of Remote Desktop Connection. with Remote Assistance, you are just remotely
> watching over the shoulder or (with permission) remotely controlling the remote mouse and remote
> keyboard.
>
>
>
> Arachnia wrote:
>> Hmm, ok.. so will remote assistance work if the 'damsel in distress' doesnt have XP? would that
>> jus make it more difficult to set up..?
>>
>> "Sooner Al" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From the FAQ...
>>>
>>>Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?
>>>
>>>A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
>>>differences between these features.
>>>
>>>a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at
>>>another
>>>computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access to
>>>files and applications.
>>>b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
>>>provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box.
>>>The
>>>helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.
>>>
>>>Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...
>>>
>>>http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...
>>>
>>>--
>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>
>>>Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
>>>The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>>>
>>>"Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>>Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
>>>>above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
>>>>software without actually being there...
>>>
>>>
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 9:48:12 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

I forgot to add that to use NetMeeting RDS through a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP Port
1503 for direct IP-to-IP calls... Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router...

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23rPpwsC%23EHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Your confusing NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing with Remote Assistance... They are not the same
> and are not compatible. With that said, your correct and you could use NetMeeting Remote Desktop
> Sharing to access the remote PC for maintenance, etc...
>
> --
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>
> "JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToThisNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
> news:KbVEd.1950$7N1.804@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> if i am not mistaken, Remote Assistance was included in NetMeeting, before WindowsXP came into
>> existence. therefore, you could still use Remote Assistance by running NetMeeting, without
>> having WindowsXP.
>>
>> within the context you are asking about though, you could not use Remote Assistance to install
>> software on a remote PC, if the software you want to install is not on or accessible to the
>> remote PC (e.g. if the software is in your hands). using Remote Assistance, you could install
>> the software on the remote PC, only if the software you want to install is accessible to the
>> remote PC.
>>
>> now regarding Remote Desktop Connection (RDC).
>>
>> using Remote Desktop Connection, you could install your software on the remote PC, regardless of
>> where it is (e.g. your local PC or the remote PC), because your local disk drives can be accessed
>> by the remote PC, as well as vice-versa. the remote PC must have Windows XP Pro in order to
>> provide the server functionality, as mentioned by another posting.
>>
>> the local client PC (used to connect to the remote) needs to have the client RDC software. the
>> client RDC software is included in Windows XP Pro and Home. for other versions of Windows, the
>> client RDC software can be easily installed, either from the XP installation CD or from any other
>> media that contains the proper installation executable.
>>
>> that's the advantage of Remote Desktop Connection. with Remote Assistance, you are just remotely
>> watching over the shoulder or (with permission) remotely controlling the remote mouse and remote
>> keyboard.
>>
>>
>>
>> Arachnia wrote:
>>> Hmm, ok.. so will remote assistance work if the 'damsel in distress' doesnt have XP? would that
>>> jus make it more difficult to set up..?
>>>
>>> "Sooner Al" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From the FAQ...
>>>>
>>>>Q. What are the differences between Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance?
>>>>
>>>>A. Remote Desktop and Remote Assistance use the same underlying technology, but there are
>>>>differences between these features.
>>>>
>>>>a.. Remote Desktop allows access to a remote Windows computer. For example, when you are at
>>>>another
>>>>computer you can use Remote Desktop to connect to your work computer from home and have access
>>>>to
>>>>files and applications.
>>>>b.. Remote Assistance allows a helper to use an Internet connection to access your computer to
>>>>provide assistance. The helper views your computer's screen and communicates through a chat box.
>>>>The
>>>>helper can remotely control your computer to resolve a problem.
>>>>
>>>>Note that XP Home can not act as a Remote Desktop host...For help with Remote Desktop...
>>>>
>>>>http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Rem...
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>>
>>>>Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
>>>>The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>>>>
>>>>"Arachnia" <Arachnia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:28800098-5554-4588-94FC-DC9582A767BF@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Would someone be able to (briefly) tell me the difference between the
>>>>>above... The context for which I am asking is - I need to install some
>>>>>software without actually being there...
>>>>
>>>>
>
January 12, 2005 7:23:26 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

thanks Sooner Al for helping out

would you happen to know what ports need to be opened to use audio and
video with Dialer through a firewall/router ?

would you happen to know what port needs to be open to use video with
NetMeeting through a firewall/router, in addition to port 1503 for
direct IP-to-IP calls ?

thanks in advance for your reply

i am getting much better response on overseas calls using direct
IP-to-IP calls with NetMeeting and Dialer, than with the unbearable
delays using Win or MSN Messenger.


Sooner Al wrote:
> I forgot to add that to use NetMeeting RDS through a firewall/NAT/router
> you need to open TCP Port 1503 for direct IP-to-IP calls... Call using
> the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router...
>
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 7:24:28 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

NetMeeting uses a large range of potential ports. The best I can say is to look at the NetMeeting
Resource Kit for that information.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/NetMeeting/Corp/reskit...

Personally I use either Skype, for audio conferencing, or MS Portrait. Portrait allows for
one-to-one IP-to-IP audio/video conferencing...

http://www.skype.com
http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/

For Portrait you only need...

TCP Port 8100 Listen
UDP Port 8110 Video
UDP Port 8120 Audio

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToThisNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
news:2D1Fd.2725$w62.2362@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> thanks Sooner Al for helping out
>
> would you happen to know what ports need to be opened to use audio and video with Dialer through a
> firewall/router ?
>
> would you happen to know what port needs to be open to use video with NetMeeting through a
> firewall/router, in addition to port 1503 for direct IP-to-IP calls ?
>
> thanks in advance for your reply
>
> i am getting much better response on overseas calls using direct IP-to-IP calls with NetMeeting
> and Dialer, than with the unbearable delays using Win or MSN Messenger.
>
>
> Sooner Al wrote:
>> I forgot to add that to use NetMeeting RDS through a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>> Port 1503 for direct IP-to-IP calls... Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router...
>>
!