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Microsoft Paid Nokia Quarter of a Billion Dollars to Adopt WP7

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January 26, 2012 2:10:05 PM

Nokia sure they'll have a short place for you too.
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January 26, 2012 2:17:53 PM

this money came from all the patent royalty fees microsoft got. thank android, ms. :p 
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January 26, 2012 2:21:24 PM

$250 million is not a lot to be paid to destroy your company. Nokia is destroying itself.

The media was sucked into the sales spin of a million Windows Phones sold. You'll find that these were not sold to consumers. They were sold to wholesalers. Shuffled from one warehouse to another to make it look like the Windows Phones were sold when they weren't. It's called cooking the books.
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January 26, 2012 2:24:01 PM

Not really sure if this is really news or not.

It was already reported in March of last year that Microsoft would be paying Nokia north of $1B to adopt their Windows Phone OS.
It sounds like this is just a payment on the $1B+ commitment to me...
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January 26, 2012 2:29:36 PM

No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.
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January 26, 2012 2:29:48 PM

Despite the naysayers, I think Nokia will bring itself back to its former glory. Don't understand why everyone hates Windows Mobile. It's actually really, really good. Where Nokia was lagging was in its software/OS. With MS to focus on that aspect, Nokia can focus on doing what it does best: make phones.

Excellent deal for both parties. I can even see the two companies merging down the road or at least strengthening their alliance even further. Apple is ultra competitive right now. With Nokia and MS together, it'll keep the other honest.
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January 26, 2012 2:31:27 PM

Now it's starting to make sense. I still think it was a bad deal, though, since I can't see Nokia as competitive while running WP7. They should've gone Android.
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January 26, 2012 2:31:42 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.


Don't see why Smartphones are a waste of money. Maybe you don't need it right now, but down the road it will become a necessity in life just like the computer. A smartphone is essentially a pocket computer.

The correct tool for the required job.
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January 26, 2012 2:49:56 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.


I don't have a waffle maker in my home, but that doesn't mean that all companies who manifacture waffle makers are just wasting thier money and resoarces, there is a market for them.
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January 26, 2012 2:56:10 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.


AKA being poor
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January 26, 2012 3:05:00 PM

Shelling out money to OEM & ODM customers worked for intel for years, and still does today ! If you can't beat Apple or Google, then bribe, I mean subsidize someone to use your crappy WP7 product !!
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January 26, 2012 3:27:10 PM

g00fysmileyI don't have a waffle maker in my home, but that doesn't mean that all companies who manifacture waffle makers are just wasting thier money and resoarces, there is a market for them.


I have one, you can borrow it if you would like.
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January 26, 2012 3:30:01 PM

Its no different when Microsoft bailed out Apple from going bankrupt. MS gave Apple money in exchange they use Office on their Mac, and Apple gave MS non voting stock. Nokia was going no where comes MS with a cash injection, in exchange Nokia uses MS OS, its a win win for both MS and Nokia.
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January 26, 2012 3:32:56 PM

chiefboxShelling out money to OEM & ODM customers worked for intel for years, and still does today ! If you can't beat Apple or Google, then bribe, I mean subsidize someone to use your crappy WP7 product !!


Oh you mean just like when Microsoft bailed out Crappy Apple (using your term of crap) from bankruptcy in exchange they use Office on their Mac's, and Apple gives MS non voting stocks.
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January 26, 2012 3:34:33 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.


yea tell that to every business in the world who wants there workers to have access to e-mail 24/7

FAIL
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January 26, 2012 3:38:51 PM

beta tester$250 million is not a lot to be paid to destroy your company. Nokia is destroying itself.The media was sucked into the sales spin of a million Windows Phones sold. You'll find that these were not sold to consumers. They were sold to wholesalers. Shuffled from one warehouse to another to make it look like the Windows Phones were sold when they weren't. It's called cooking the books.

Tin.
Foil.
Hat.
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January 26, 2012 3:39:56 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.

Amish, per chance?
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January 26, 2012 3:41:15 PM

chiefboxShelling out money to OEM & ODM customers worked for intel for years, and still does today ! If you can't beat Apple or Google, then bribe, I mean subsidize someone to use your crappy WP7 product !!


Windows 7 , is actually pretty freaking good, and windows 8 will put an end to the toy OS's that we call android and iOS hardware has noww aught up soyou can have truly productive mobile software and windows owns the productivity world. Remember 1984. Apples closed eco-system will do them in again.
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January 26, 2012 3:42:12 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.

No smarts in my home. sounds like wasted space.
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January 26, 2012 3:45:15 PM

Nokia did not ask for enough money.
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January 26, 2012 3:53:45 PM

Hey Microsoft, I'll happily adopt WP7 for say $100k. Check or cash is fine.
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January 26, 2012 4:28:10 PM

Ranger104No smart phones in my home. sounds like wasted money.


visiting tom's to leave a post like that , sounds like wasted time...
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January 26, 2012 6:27:52 PM

wait... nokia actually PAID for that shit?!?!????
really. Elop is a tard.
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January 26, 2012 7:10:31 PM

this explaines why nokia dropped meego like a bad habit. whats better then a good free and open sourced operating system? an ok but not great operating system that someone is paying you a $250,000,000.00 to use. thats a crap ton of zeros, and a heck of a reason.
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January 26, 2012 7:18:46 PM

So MS spent 250 million in order to sell 1 million units so far?

Thank goodness these losers don't have a monopoly on anything but PCs.
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January 26, 2012 7:35:06 PM

redeemedSo MS spent 250 million in order to sell 1 million units so far?Thank goodness these losers don't have a monopoly on anything but PCs.

No they paid 250 million to have a well known and respected phone hardware maker to adopt their OS and have it become more well known overtime. Corporations don't work for the quick short term, they tend to think down the line and see things like this as investments.
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January 26, 2012 8:22:55 PM

Microsoft spent $250 million to stop Nokia from going chapter 11, which is exactly where they were heading with their own software and no brand differentiation if they went down the Android route like all the other millions of samey-samey HTC handsets
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Now they are recognised, people are aware and they are selling, Nokia should be paying Microsoft not the other way round
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January 26, 2012 8:24:34 PM

Camikazi said:
No they paid 250 million to have a well known and respected phone hardware maker to adopt their OS and have it become more well known overtime. Corporations don't work for the quick short term, they tend to think down the line and see things like this as investments.


well its a good thing that it is not exclusive to nokia phones because if it was it would still be non existent
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January 26, 2012 8:39:19 PM

Things are much better in the phone market. 3 big OS, Android, Windows & macOS. That will make things a lot better.
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January 26, 2012 9:47:45 PM

That makes MS OS cheaper than free. Well, MS lost loads of money to grow the Xbox market, and it worked despite Sony's evident superiority at the time. So I suspect they will get some size of the market in the future.
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January 26, 2012 11:09:01 PM

What is that ... about a $50 million subsidy on every phone sold?
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January 27, 2012 1:02:33 AM

About 1.4 million Nokia Lumia smartphones were sold to date, so Microsoft payed Nokia about $178 per device?
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January 27, 2012 2:39:57 AM

back_by_demandAmish, per chance?

why was this marked down? fair question to a stupid statement.

but in the case of Windows Nokia, I like it. No one wanted to use Windows mobile, and no one wanted Nokia. Once again they couldn’t do any worse and Microsoft has the money to modify their OS to perform better on specific hardware. Nokia is a notorious phone giant with knowledge on how to produce quality products, but kinda got stuck on indecision. I see this only going up, dont know how far but I will say it will at least break even for both companies.
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January 27, 2012 4:06:50 AM

@aftcomet:
> Where Nokia was lagging was in its software/OS.
> With MS to focus on that aspect, Nokia can focus on doing what it does best: make phones.

A big issue is that MS-WM only runes on a limited amount of hardware and getting working drivers are a lot more work needed than on the different Linux based options which already supports most hardware that is used in mobile phones.
With the limitation of hardware, all MS-WM phones will be just the same inside, the design may be slightly different, which means that all that differs the phones will just be the apps pre-installed.

Then we have other issues like a simple SMS which can disable parts of your phone and advertisement and from time to time those blue screens (oh, yeas, it will be some unhappy guy in next version).
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January 27, 2012 4:23:17 AM

i do wonder how much money $MS$ will make from their app type store on the phones? i honestly hope this phone will be a flop like the last $MS$ Phone OS
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January 27, 2012 4:29:31 AM

aftcometDon't see why Smartphones are a waste of money. Maybe you don't need it right now, but down the road it will become a necessity in life just like the computer. A smartphone is essentially a pocket computer.The correct tool for the required job.


the word phone....

im not so addicted to the internet that i need it every where i go, and if i do, ill get a laptop... that to big... netbook.

i am someone who uses a computer from the time i wake up till the time i sleep, going a full day without it is very hard (when the thing dies) but at the end of the day, i dont need a phone...

if i want a phone, ill pay the 10$ for basic home service, and leave it there.
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January 27, 2012 6:19:42 AM

back_by_demandMicrosoft spent $250 million to stop Nokia from going chapter 11, which is exactly where they were heading with their own software and no brand differentiation if they went down the Android route like all the other millions of samey-samey HTC handsets...Now they are recognised...

Oh dear. Nokia, top phone hardware manufacturer, is "recognized" only now? Serioiusly? Maybe something is utterly wrong with, cough, US market, cough? With endless provider lock-ins?

Somehow Samsung manages it? HTC still sells pretty well? /facepalm

Nokia was and partially still is a very serios brand all over the world. (no, not in "cheapo" 3rd world countries, in EU too) They would have NO PROBLEM "differentiating" from anyone, making good hardware was all that was needed. (for the rest of the world, not US where providers decide what consumers could get and what not)

If they had troble getting throgh US provider mafia, they could have struck a deal with microsoft, but agreeing on "MS CrapOS only" in US market only, leaving the rest of the world alone.
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January 27, 2012 6:21:02 AM

ThE_BrutENo one wanted to use Windows mobile, and no one wanted Nokia.

A lot of people outside US with its wicked mobile market did want (and still want) a solid Android Nokia phone.
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Anonymous
January 27, 2012 7:55:05 AM

Compare this 1B$ with the 1B$ that Sun spent for acquiring MySQL. MS has a OS penetration plan with this expenditure. Sun acquired MySQL and didn't know how to make money out of it.
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January 27, 2012 7:57:45 AM

Kind of irrelevant since people buys gadgets, not an OS. If they like the Nokia gadget better, they will buy it.
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January 27, 2012 8:31:20 AM

ruszip1i do wonder how much money $MS$ will make from their app type store on the phones? i honestly hope this phone will be a flop like the last $MS$ Phone OS


Why would you hope that it will flop? Because if you don't like it, no one else should? Because you want to be able to tell your friends that you were right when you said it sucks?? What a jerky attitude!
I personally don't like Windows Phone as much as Android.. but if Windows Phone does well, well good for them!
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January 27, 2012 8:41:33 AM

this does not encourage me to buy a windows phone or nokia since my last terrible experience with windows 6.5 and the sleep of death, if wp7 is better less buggy then i might give it a second look,but so far its android or ios
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January 27, 2012 9:24:35 PM

lca1443I have one, you can borrow it if you would like.
Don't do it, even if it's 6 times faster, I hear they won't allow you to play used waffles.
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January 29, 2012 10:19:41 PM

There seems to be a real hate for MS phone amongst some. Sorry but can someone explain to me why having three mobile competitors ( iOS, Andriod, MS phone) is WORSE than having just 2 competitors ( iOS, Andriod )?
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January 30, 2012 4:00:50 PM

someoneelse said:
There seems to be a real hate for MS phone amongst some. Sorry but can someone explain to me why having three mobile competitors ( iOS, Andriod, MS phone) is WORSE than having just 2 competitors ( iOS, Andriod )?


the more OS'es the more fragmentation.if i am company who makes a living off app's the more OS's that are on the market the more of a headache it is. especially when it comes to costs for porting the same app to more than one OS. also when it comes to. that is just one i can think of at the top of my head but i bet there are many more
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Anonymous
February 2, 2012 12:59:18 PM

Nokias made phones that could survive the armageddon at a time when the rest made phones that could break if you spoke too loudly in them...The powerful Nokia C series could easily be used to fend off a zombie horde attack...Not to mention the legendary battery life of the Nokia phones that you could use as a friggin time capsule with your voice recorded on it...

I would love to see Nokia build the same tanks with Android on it...But if it comes out with the WP7 on it, I would give it a try just because it was Nokia...And with Nokia, you know it will outlast 7 of your coming generations and still work...
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February 2, 2012 3:51:56 PM

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Nokias made phones that could survive the armageddon at a time when the rest made phones that could break if you spoke too loudly in them...The powerful Nokia C series could easily be used to fend off a zombie horde attack...Not to mention the legendary battery life of the Nokia phones that you could use as a friggin time capsule with your voice recorded on it...

I would love to see Nokia build the same tanks with Android on it...But if it comes out with the WP7 on it, I would give it a try just because it was Nokia...And with Nokia, you know it will outlast 7 of your coming generations and still work...


phones that could break if you spoke too loudly in them?.....really..... :heink: 
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May 28, 2012 3:11:57 AM

Sounds like a 'win , win' for Nokia. If they adopted Android, they would just blend in, at the phone store. Nokia is better than that. Nokia, make a great quality phone, and now they have great OS. I can almost imagine Nokia thinking '$1b, we would have done it for nothing'.
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