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Thank you, yes this certainly helps. From bits I've seen here and there,
I'd begun to suspect the audio component was the issue. I'm a rank novice,
and had probably accepted a default in Nero Vision Express when I captured
those files (from my Sony camcorder). No particular rationale behind it.
I just want to make movies and slide shows from family DV tapes and jpegs,
and eventually convert old family VHS archives to DVD. But I encountered
trouble in Nero burning those files to DVD ( - I did manage to make SVCDs
from them - ), which is why I started researching a dedicated editing
package and ended up with Studio.
Yes, I still have the tapes, and I guess I will recapture into Studio. But
first I want to do some reading. I understand what a codec is and that
there are all these formats floating around, but I need to learn more about
the distinctions between them.
So far, I've yet to find as cogent a perspective in the Studio help file as
you just provided in a few short paragraphs. Thanks again! -Ron
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>>Yup, just checked in there and immediately found a post reporting the same
>>issue from a few days ago. So far the only advice was to re-render the
>>mpg
>>to DV-AVI type 2. I'll search more thoroughly. Since my last post here,
>>I
>>did find some AVIs on my hard drive, and they do play in Studio 9+,
>>including one I'd made myself (albeit poor quality). The mpgs that have
>>caused me this difficulty play in Windows Media Player (which can't
>>re-render as far as I can tell).
>
> WMP is a player, not an editor and it will generally play (even if not
> very well) any file for which it can find a playing CODEC. Studio is
> an editor, it will only play a file if it has a CODEC that will both
> read and render the file. Otherwise, you would end up being able to
> edit a file but not render it.
>
> MPG editing is an afterthought in most NLE packages and is usually
> much more limited than DV or MJPEG editing.
>
>> Seems to me the average user would
>>therefore expect them to play in Studio 9+ , so I'd have thought there'd
>>at
>>least be something in the help file about different flavors of mpgs.
>>Nothing I've found.
>>
>>Meantime, I have confirmed I can pile up my jpgs and the mpgs that came
>>with
>>9+ on the timeline, use transitions, titles, zoom/pan, chromakey, etc.,
>>All
>>no problem. If I add one of the problem mpgs, the cursor jumps to the
>>start
>>of that clip and nothing in the sequence plays. If I delete it,
>>everything
>>returns to normal.
>>
>>Anyway, I still have the Roxio OEM package installed, so hoping to
>>re-render
>>that way to avoid having to recapture my tapes. Gotta do some reading
>>first - make sure this won't degrade them too far, etc.
>>
>>Thanks for the support, Ron
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> It sounds as if your MPG file has AC3 or MPEG-Layer1 or 3 audio. In
> general, Studio will load such files, but will not play them. Studio
> wants MPG files with MPGE-Layer2 or LPCM audio.
>
> There are about a thousand different video/audio combinations possible
> in MPG2. Many editing packages (including Studio 9) are very
> particular about what audio stream(s) they can handle, and this is
> usually the problem when an otherwise good MPG file will not play or
> render.
>
> Therefore, when using MPG as the capture format, it is usually best to
> use the same package to both capture and edit. Studio will definitely
> not play an MPG file with AC3 sound, especially if that file was
> ripped from a DVD. The next version of Studio may or may not play an
> MPG file with AC3 audio since that is one of the issues holding up
> that version.
>
> If these are MPG files that you have captured and you still have the
> original tapes, you would probably be best off just re-capturing some
> MPG video with Studio and see if you can edit with it.
>
> Is there some reason you are capturing in MPG2 if you are serious
> about editing? It's okay to capture in MPG2 if you are capturing VHS
> and only want to make a few cuts (such as removing commercials) but
> MPG editing is still extremely difficult for most editing packages and
> you usually have far fewer problems if you capture in DV or MJPEG and
> then render to MPG after editing. BUT, you can capture and edit in
> MPG, it is just not as stable and it is difficult not ending up having
> to re-render, which lowers your final product.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Susan
>