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Anonymous
March 14, 2005 10:43:03 PM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using the
A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder that I
borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a standard 6-4 pin
Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft Movie Maker (the latest
version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on my home PC (also XP Pro and
running SP2), it only recognized the camcorder for a few seconds, then it
disappeared from Device Manager.

Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if I
needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this camcorder. I
tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device Manager to scan
for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here. This worked on one
PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.

Any clues?

Thanks,

--
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 2:19:34 AM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

Run up-to-date virus and spyware removal software: AVG free and Microsoft
Antispyware, the latter being the best available despite what others may
say.

I've cleaned many machines with the above tools and watched all sorts of
problems "miraculously" dissappear.

Run Windows Update and ensure you're completely up to date.

Clear out ALL extraneous "nice but not necessary" background processes.

When I'm doing vid-cap, my systray will only have four icons displayed:
- one confirming I've just connected a Firewire Camera
- one indicating my network is disconnected
- one showing I'm plugged in to a power outlet (laptop) as having a low
power alert kills the capture
- the system volume control

If you don't know how to get rid of startup processes, Google for a utility
to display and disable them.

Reboot once you've made all the above changes.

Post more details about your hardware configuration IF the above steps fail.

Good luck!

Chris


"Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
news:X8mdnQe0m6FbxKvfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using the
> A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder that I
> borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a standard 6-4
> pin Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft Movie Maker (the
> latest version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on my home PC (also XP
> Pro and running SP2), it only recognized the camcorder for a few seconds,
> then it disappeared from Device Manager.
>
> Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if I
> needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this camcorder.
> I tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device Manager to
> scan for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here. This worked
> on one PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.
>
> Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Kovie
> kovie@earthlink.netizen
>
>
>
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 2:54:09 AM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

Thanks. I tried killing as many processes as possible, but it didn't help.
Then I found the solution.

The camcorder was connected to one of my PC's 2 front-panel FW jacks. These
are split off of a single internal FW connector on a FW/USB2 PCI card. When
I connected the camcorder to the single rear FW jack, it worked. The PC
recognized the camcorder, and never lost recognition of it, unlike with the
front-panel jacks, where it was recognized, but then was lost within
seconds. I'm guessing that either the front-panel jacks are not working
properly, there's a loose or weak connection somewhere, or splitting the
single internal FW connector in 2 weakens the signal to the point where the
PC won't consistently recognize some FW devices.

In any case, I was able to capture my first 2 hour tape w/o a hitch. 1 down,
29 to go... ;-)

--
Kovie
kovie@earthlink.netizen


"C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message
news:8LqdnZR2FMjF_6vfRVn-pw@rogers.com...
> Run up-to-date virus and spyware removal software: AVG free and Microsoft
> Antispyware, the latter being the best available despite what others may
> say.
>
> I've cleaned many machines with the above tools and watched all sorts of
> problems "miraculously" dissappear.
>
> Run Windows Update and ensure you're completely up to date.
>
> Clear out ALL extraneous "nice but not necessary" background processes.
>
> When I'm doing vid-cap, my systray will only have four icons displayed:
> - one confirming I've just connected a Firewire Camera
> - one indicating my network is disconnected
> - one showing I'm plugged in to a power outlet (laptop) as having a low
> power alert kills the capture
> - the system volume control
>
> If you don't know how to get rid of startup processes, Google for a
> utility to display and disable them.
>
> Reboot once you've made all the above changes.
>
> Post more details about your hardware configuration IF the above steps
> fail.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
> news:X8mdnQe0m6FbxKvfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>> I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using
>> the A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder that
>> I borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a standard 6-4
>> pin Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft Movie Maker (the
>> latest version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on my home PC (also
>> XP Pro and running SP2), it only recognized the camcorder for a few
>> seconds, then it disappeared from Device Manager.
>>
>> Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if
>> I needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this
>> camcorder. I tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device
>> Manager to scan for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here.
>> This worked on one PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.
>>
>> Any clues?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Kovie
>> kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
March 15, 2005 2:19:44 PM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

Thanks for the update Kovie.

I've actually heard of this problem before with both USB and Firewire ports.
I'll add that one to my list of gotchas when someone asks about connection
problems.

C.

"Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
news:4tmdncEj4tw_CavfRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> Thanks. I tried killing as many processes as possible, but it didn't help.
> Then I found the solution.
>
> The camcorder was connected to one of my PC's 2 front-panel FW jacks.
> These are split off of a single internal FW connector on a FW/USB2 PCI
> card. When I connected the camcorder to the single rear FW jack, it
> worked. The PC recognized the camcorder, and never lost recognition of it,
> unlike with the front-panel jacks, where it was recognized, but then was
> lost within seconds. I'm guessing that either the front-panel jacks are
> not working properly, there's a loose or weak connection somewhere, or
> splitting the single internal FW connector in 2 weakens the signal to the
> point where the PC won't consistently recognize some FW devices.
>
> In any case, I was able to capture my first 2 hour tape w/o a hitch. 1
> down, 29 to go... ;-)
>
> --
> Kovie
> kovie@earthlink.netizen
>
>
> "C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message
> news:8LqdnZR2FMjF_6vfRVn-pw@rogers.com...
>> Run up-to-date virus and spyware removal software: AVG free and Microsoft
>> Antispyware, the latter being the best available despite what others may
>> say.
>>
>> I've cleaned many machines with the above tools and watched all sorts of
>> problems "miraculously" dissappear.
>>
>> Run Windows Update and ensure you're completely up to date.
>>
>> Clear out ALL extraneous "nice but not necessary" background processes.
>>
>> When I'm doing vid-cap, my systray will only have four icons displayed:
>> - one confirming I've just connected a Firewire Camera
>> - one indicating my network is disconnected
>> - one showing I'm plugged in to a power outlet (laptop) as having a low
>> power alert kills the capture
>> - the system volume control
>>
>> If you don't know how to get rid of startup processes, Google for a
>> utility to display and disable them.
>>
>> Reboot once you've made all the above changes.
>>
>> Post more details about your hardware configuration IF the above steps
>> fail.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
>> news:X8mdnQe0m6FbxKvfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>> I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using
>>> the A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder
>>> that I borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a
>>> standard 6-4 pin Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft
>>> Movie Maker (the latest version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on
>>> my home PC (also XP Pro and running SP2), it only recognized the
>>> camcorder for a few seconds, then it disappeared from Device Manager.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if
>>> I needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this
>>> camcorder. I tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device
>>> Manager to scan for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here.
>>> This worked on one PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.
>>>
>>> Any clues?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kovie
>>> kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
March 17, 2005 6:10:11 PM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

C.J.Patten wrote:
> Thanks for the update Kovie.
>
> I've actually heard of this problem before with both USB and Firewire ports.
> I'll add that one to my list of gotchas when someone asks about connection
> problems.
>
> C.
>
> "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
> news:4tmdncEj4tw_CavfRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
>>Thanks. I tried killing as many processes as possible, but it didn't help.
>>Then I found the solution.
>>
>>The camcorder was connected to one of my PC's 2 front-panel FW jacks.
>>These are split off of a single internal FW connector on a FW/USB2 PCI
>>card. When I connected the camcorder to the single rear FW jack, it
>>worked. The PC recognized the camcorder, and never lost recognition of it,
>>unlike with the front-panel jacks, where it was recognized, but then was
>>lost within seconds. I'm guessing that either the front-panel jacks are
>>not working properly, there's a loose or weak connection somewhere, or
>>splitting the single internal FW connector in 2 weakens the signal to the
>>point where the PC won't consistently recognize some FW devices.
>>
>>In any case, I was able to capture my first 2 hour tape w/o a hitch. 1
>>down, 29 to go... ;-)
>>
>>--
>>Kovie
>>kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>
>>
>>"C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message
>>news:8LqdnZR2FMjF_6vfRVn-pw@rogers.com...
>>
>>>Run up-to-date virus and spyware removal software: AVG free and Microsoft
>>>Antispyware, the latter being the best available despite what others may
>>>say.
>>>
>>>I've cleaned many machines with the above tools and watched all sorts of
>>>problems "miraculously" dissappear.
>>>
>>>Run Windows Update and ensure you're completely up to date.
>>>
>>>Clear out ALL extraneous "nice but not necessary" background processes.
>>>
>>>When I'm doing vid-cap, my systray will only have four icons displayed:
>>>- one confirming I've just connected a Firewire Camera
>>>- one indicating my network is disconnected
>>>- one showing I'm plugged in to a power outlet (laptop) as having a low
>>>power alert kills the capture
>>>- the system volume control
>>>
>>>If you don't know how to get rid of startup processes, Google for a
>>>utility to display and disable them.
>>>
>>>Reboot once you've made all the above changes.
>>>
>>>Post more details about your hardware configuration IF the above steps
>>>fail.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
>>>news:X8mdnQe0m6FbxKvfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using
>>>>the A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder
>>>>that I borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a
>>>>standard 6-4 pin Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft
>>>>Movie Maker (the latest version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on
>>>>my home PC (also XP Pro and running SP2), it only recognized the
>>>>camcorder for a few seconds, then it disappeared from Device Manager.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if
>>>>I needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this
>>>>camcorder. I tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device
>>>>Manager to scan for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here.
>>>>This worked on one PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.
>>>>
>>>>Any clues?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Kovie
>>>>kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I have this same problem with USB2 ports. Most of my devices must be
plugged in to the rear MBrd connector. It seems that older USB1 may
work in the front and back. Can't imagine why, something about he
cabling from board to front panel maybey.

don
Anonymous
March 19, 2005 9:39:58 PM

Archived from groups: rec.video.desktop (More info?)

On 3/17/2005, don managed to type:
> C.J.Patten wrote:
>> Thanks for the update Kovie.
>>
>> I've actually heard of this problem before with both USB and Firewire
>> ports.
>> I'll add that one to my list of gotchas when someone asks about connection
>> problems.
>>
>> C.
>>
>> "Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
>> news:4tmdncEj4tw_CavfRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Thanks. I tried killing as many processes as possible, but it didn't help.
>>> Then I found the solution.
>>>
>>>The camcorder was connected to one of my PC's 2 front-panel FW jacks. These
>>> are split off of a single internal FW connector on a FW/USB2 PCI card.
>>> When I connected the camcorder to the single rear FW jack, it worked. The
>>> PC recognized the camcorder, and never lost recognition of it, unlike with
>>> the front-panel jacks, where it was recognized, but then was lost within
>>> seconds. I'm guessing that either the front-panel jacks are not working
>>> properly, there's a loose or weak connection somewhere, or splitting the
>>> single internal FW connector in 2 weakens the signal to the point where
>>> the PC won't consistently recognize some FW devices.
>>>
>>>In any case, I was able to capture my first 2 hour tape w/o a hitch. 1
>>> down, 29 to go... ;-)
>>>
>>>-- Kovie
>>>kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>>
>>>
>>>"C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8LqdnZR2FMjF_6vfRVn-pw@rogers.com...
>>>
>>>>Run up-to-date virus and spyware removal software: AVG free and Microsoft
>>>> Antispyware, the latter being the best available despite what others may
>>>> say.
>>>>
>>>>I've cleaned many machines with the above tools and watched all sorts of
>>>> problems "miraculously" dissappear.
>>>>
>>>>Run Windows Update and ensure you're completely up to date.
>>>>
>>>>Clear out ALL extraneous "nice but not necessary" background processes.
>>>>
>>>>When I'm doing vid-cap, my systray will only have four icons displayed:
>>>>- one confirming I've just connected a Firewire Camera
>>>>- one indicating my network is disconnected
>>>>- one showing I'm plugged in to a power outlet (laptop) as having a low
>>>> power alert kills the capture
>>>>- the system volume control
>>>>
>>>>If you don't know how to get rid of startup processes, Google for a
>>>> utility to display and disable them.
>>>>
>>>>Reboot once you've made all the above changes.
>>>>
>>>>Post more details about your hardware configuration IF the above steps
>>>> fail.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kovie" <kovie@earthlink.netizen> wrote in message
>>>> news:X8mdnQe0m6FbxKvfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to digitize videos from some old Hi8 tapes onto my PC using
>>>>> the A/D pass-through ability of a Sony DCR-TRV310 Digital8 camcorder
>>>>> that I borrowed. I tried this on my office XP Pro PC today with a
>>>>> standard 6-4 pin Firewire cable, and it worked fine using Microsoft
>>>>> Movie Maker (the latest version on SP2). But when I tried to do this on
>>>>> my home PC (also XP Pro and running SP2), it only recognized the
>>>>> camcorder for a few seconds, then it disappeared from Device Manager.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there any reason this is happening? I went to the Sony site to see if
>>>>> I needed to download newer drivers, but there aren't any for this
>>>>> camcorder. I tried another FW cable, but that didn't help. Asking Device
>>>>> Manager to scan for new hardware doesn't help. I'm kind of stumped here.
>>>>> This worked on one PC (as well as an OSX iMac), but not another PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any clues?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>-- Kovie
>>>>>kovie@earthlink.netizen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> I have this same problem with USB2 ports. Most of my devices must be plugged
> in to the rear MBrd connector. It seems that older USB1 may work in the
> front and back. Can't imagine why, something about he cabling from board to
> front panel maybey.
>
> don

I had to replace my separate-wire cables (from the motherboard headers
to the front panel USB connectors) with ribbon cables to get the front
connectors to work as USB-2.

Been fine since...

Gino

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