Burn-in subtitles

[Paul]

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OK, here is the story so far:

I have a foreign language DVD. I used TMPEnc DVD Author to trim some
parts out. DVD Author makes it very easy and fast to make the cuts,
and it preserves chapters. Sadly it doesn't preserve subtitlbes so the
end result is rather useless.

Is there some way to get the subtitles permanently burned into the
picture (so it isn't a subpicture stream) and then when I edit I won't
lose them?

 

[Guest]

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On a sunny day (21 Mar 2005 19:22:45 -0800) it happened "Paul"
<helo2u@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>OK, here is the story so far:
>
>I have a foreign language DVD. I used TMPEnc DVD Author to trim some
>parts out. DVD Author makes it very easy and fast to make the cuts,
>and it preserves chapters. Sadly it doesn't preserve subtitlbes so the
>end result is rather useless.
>
>Is there some way to get the subtitles permanently burned into the
>picture (so it isn't a subpicture stream) and then when I edit I won't
>lose them?
>
Do I understand you have a DVD, cut parts out, then make a new DVD?
Then why not leave it like it is?
What exactly is your output format?

 

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your .SRT files are missing

Try this tutorial:
http://divxstation.com/article.asp?aId=100

SOFTWARE:

You can use DIKO to convert an avi to DVDR with subtitles.
The program is freeware and easy to use.
http://www.vmesquita.com/en/download.htm

There's DVDAuthorGUI and also GUI_DVDAuthor.
This programs can convert your MPEG2 video + subtitles to a DVD with
subtitles, menu and other stuff too. This are free, so you get what you pay
for. I have used GUI_DVDAuthor and it works.

TitleLab:
http://www.azinesoftware.com/titlelab.php


More software options here:
http://www.burnworld.com/software/dvdburning/subtitles.htm


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Paul <helo2u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OK, here is the story so far:
>
> I have a foreign language DVD. I used TMPEnc DVD Author to trim some
> parts out. DVD Author makes it very easy and fast to make the cuts,
> and it preserves chapters. Sadly it doesn't preserve subtitlbes so the
> end result is rather useless.
>
> Is there some way to get the subtitles permanently burned into the
> picture (so it isn't a subpicture stream) and then when I edit I won't
> lose them?
>

 

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I didn't want to give a technical explanation in my last post...but in case
you're interested in what needs to be done:

DVD subtitles are hidden in private PS packets ( 0x000001ba ), just like AC3
streams are.

Within the PS packet, there are PES packets, and like AC3, the header for
the ones containing subtitles have a 0x000001bd header. As for AC3, where
there's an ID like 0x80+x), there's a subtitle ID equal to 0x20+x, where x
is the subtitle ID. There are 32 possible different subtitles on a DVD.

Your job is to extract AC3 from a DVD and there are plenty of software
solutions out there.



--
Brian Alves

Listen to the new podcast
for DV creators- The DV Show!
http://www.thedvshow.com


Paul <helo2u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OK, here is the story so far:
>
> I have a foreign language DVD. I used TMPEnc DVD Author to trim some
> parts out. DVD Author makes it very easy and fast to make the cuts,
> and it preserves chapters. Sadly it doesn't preserve subtitlbes so the
> end result is rather useless.
>
> Is there some way to get the subtitles permanently burned into the
> picture (so it isn't a subpicture stream) and then when I edit I won't
> lose them?
>

 

[Paul]

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I'm editing it to make it more 'family friendly', my output format will
be dvd as well, I have a dvd burner so I do not need to compress the
file.

 

[Paul]

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Here is what I've managed so far....

I've managed to pull the subtitles out and I'm trying to use
virtualdub-mpeg2 and vobsub to burn them in.

I can do that OK, but when I import the .vob into virtualdub it messes
up the timing of the video throwing it out of sync with the audio.
Compared to the original, the audio is the right length and the video
is over 7 seconds longer with a lower total number of frames.

If I can fix this, I'm home free. I'm finding it very hard to manually
sync them though since my cpu can't do a realtime preview (only 900MHz)

 

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On a sunny day (24 Mar 2005 17:36:22 -0800) it happened "Paul"
<helo2u@hotmail.com> wrote in
<1111714582.021620.23860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

>Here is what I've managed so far....
>
>I've managed to pull the subtitles out and I'm trying to use
>virtualdub-mpeg2 and vobsub to burn them in.
>
>I can do that OK, but when I import the .vob into virtualdub it messes
>up the timing of the video throwing it out of sync with the audio.
>Compared to the original, the audio is the right length and the video
>is over 7 seconds longer with a lower total number of frames.
>
>If I can fix this, I'm home free. I'm finding it very hard to manually
>sync them though since my cpu can't do a realtime preview (only 900MHz)
Basically, there is no need to do 'embedded' subs.
But I am only conversant with the process in Linux.
In ANY case, re-authoring is required, as adding 'embedded' subs makes the
files bigger.
I would do it this way (leave menus out for a moment):
cat partial vobs together in one title so it is one long vob.
Demux the VOB into mpeg2 and AC3 or mp2, and bitmaps (subs).
This will also create a .sub timing file.
Edit the mpeg2 and audio separately (I almost ALWAYS process audio separately),
Edit the .vob timing (and bitmap reference) so the subs you do not want are
out, and the rest is shifted as needed.
Mux mpeg2 and audio to a vob.
Use submux-dvd to add the subs again (as real DVD switchable subs) to the vob.
And then use dvdauthor.
You can of cause render the subs in the mpeg2 too, but that requires re-encoding,
and then you cannot switch these off.
But I think all this is not much help to you.
I do not understand that your 900 MHz PC cannot do preview, I can do that 2 x
almost on a 950 MHz Duron in full screen.

For your situation I would first try to find out WHERE the audio goes out of
sync.
Perhaps in the menus?
It is really needed to demux and re-author in my view, and edit both audio and
video, make new menus.
Maybe there are other ways, but I dunno in MS windows.
For some Linux stuf see http://panteltje.com/panteltje/dvd/
I wrote a small program a week or 2 ago to embed subs in a ripped VOB
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/subtitles/ the sub2ppml, that then can
be used with transcode subtitler to make AVI or DVD or whatever.
It takes the DVD bitmaps and makes a .ppml control file, then renders the
btmaps in whatever output format you use (in transcode).
There must be a million ways to go about it.
I will leave it to the MS windows experts here to help you in your OS.