What would you get for Gaming/graphics design?

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Check out pricewatch or follow this link:
http://www.pricewatch.com/menus/m34.htm
and let me know whats the cheapest TFT 18in you would buy, and whats the chepest TFT 17in you would consider. I'm curious what models are cheap (price not quality) and will work fine for games and graphics design work like photoshop and premiere.
 

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would this NEC do the trick?
<A HREF="http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/downloads/NEC/LCD1830_specsheet.pdf" target="_new"> Multisync LCD1830 with XtraView </A>
response time is 30 ms white to black 20 ms black to white
300:1 contrast ratio
and 200cd/m^2 brightness (But I'm not sure if thats good or not)
 

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right now I have a regular geforce 3, so no digital out anyways, unless anyone wants to trade me for a Radeon 8500.... :wink:
 

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I'll check some local retailers for it but I see what your getting at, it would be nice to test it out, and compare it to an all digital solution, but I found it on pricewatch for $819 and havn't heard of any local sellers here in Orlando Florida that carry nice flat screens.
 

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funny you mention comp usa because I'm at one right now, I'm on a computer that has a ViewSonic VA800 LCD screen and it seems pretty nice but it doesn't say the repsonse time it only says "3x response speed with SuperClear MVA screen"
its 17.4 inchs with an analog interface, so I'm going to try and find one thats digital so I can compare the quality. I don't think they carry the NEC monitor but I'll ask
 

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Digital LCD monitors aren't that much of an improvement from analog LCD monitors.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
 

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Well in some cases they are, and in others they aren't. It really all depends. I just prefer digital cause you can cut a lot of teh bullshit with that. There are some great analog models out there, and great digital ones. It all lies on the user's preference. Cnahces are though with a digital that you are getting a better LCD, but many other aspects must also be taken into account. When I prefer digital, I mean if I had analog LCD x with same response time, contrast, etc. as digital LCD y, I'd get y b/c the picture could very well be better, and there's a high chance it will be a good picture.

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MVA panels do not suffer from so called color ramp problems as flamethrower says.

Planar, Cornerstone, and PrinetonGraphics use MVA panels and they are getting rave reviews. Cnet says "Text was clear and well defined at various point sizes, nearly approaching the clarity of the more expensive, digitally connected LCDs. Photo colors were rich and well saturated. The fast 25ms pixel-response rate made viewing a high-bit-rate DVD movie such as Lawrence of Arabia a pleasure; the images were rock steady, even during the busiest scenes. The same was true of broadband-delivered streaming video."

To see the review look here.

http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-2295747-405-6844302.html?tag=st.co.2295747-417-6844302.dir-rev.2295747-405-6844302

Jim Witkowski
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Cornerstone / Monitorsdirect.com


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flamethrower205

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Ok, here are a few reviews of panels with MVA that weren't as happy: This one is from zd net of the VP150m (url is http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2674911,00.html) "...Image quality was good but not perfect. In color ramps, which should change gradually, we saw discontinuities in both analog and digital modes. And we experienced an odd problem with viewing angles: When looking at the screen head on, we saw fewer shades of gray than when viewing from an angle..."
There were a few more reviews of monitors, as well as comparisons, and I noticed on all of them that the monitors using MVA had the same issue as the VP150m. I can't find the wbesites for some reason....just spent an hour looking for them. Well, anyway, LCD's still aren't the cheapest thing, and unless you piss money, I suggest you be careful with what you buy. Hence why I don't trust/like LCDs with MVA.



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What they forget to mention is that these phenomena can be caused by a number of things the including video circuit, which is more suspect in my opinion that the LCD panel itself. Video cards and can also create this. This is not an indication that all MVA panels have this type of issue. That would be like saying all aperture grill CRT's are bad because of the two horizontal lines. General statements like these are very short sighted.

I agree with your statement about being careful what you buy. However if you purchase from a reputable dealer, from a reputable manufacture returning product should be no problem. In fact we give a 30-day no questions asked guarantee on our LCD monitors. No restocking fee either.

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so if I buy a monitor from you and it doesn't work well for gaming, or I want to return it and buy a different one with digital interface thats not a problem?
 

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They used the same video card for ratring the other monitors as well, and no problems with them. In other tests, where the other monitors were OK and the MVA's weren't I doubt it was teh video card. Gradients appear in pictures (shadows), and in many places. If an LCD can't display that without banding, it's a serious problem imo, considering i am a graphics designer.

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Oni

Yes, we offer a 30-day no questions asked guarantee on all our products. You are responsible for return shipping only.


Flamethrower. Just because a single monitor has a problem, does not mean all monitors have that problem. Like I told you in the other thread, I have tested many MVA monitors and they do not exhibit the problems you keep referring to.


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Flamethrower

If you are a graphics artist and you are using a LCD monitor, that may be your first problem. LCD monitors do not have the color saturation that CRT monitors do. I recommend CRT monitors to my customers who use color intensive applications.


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GoSharks I noticed your site doesn't have the Compaq TFT7020 monitor. I would really like to buy this monitor because it offers digital and analogue interfaces, and compaq hasi t for $799. Are you able to special order this for me? and how much would it cost if you can.

PS: you might have a new customer :smile:
 

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I said that I have seen other monitors that use MVA that have had teh same problem. One of them I believe was from Princeton. Oh, and the I am going to buy an LCD shortly. I used to have a VP150m, but returned it b/c that problem. I am sure that any LCD will be better than my current 3 year old piece of [-peep-] 15" CRT that I am stuck with currently.

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