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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:40:47 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:26:48 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
>> <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>"Bob" <Bob@example.net> wrote in message
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>>>> I've been capturing excerpts from DVD's for quite some time now, but
>>>> I've run into a problem.
>>>>
>>>> My normal procedure is to open the DVD with DVD Shrink, and edit down
>>>> the content to the excerpts I want to keep.
>>>>
>>>> I recently received an inexpensive DVD recorder (the brand is "ILO"),
>>>> and it occurred to me that I could use the recorder to move stuff from
>>>> old VHS video tapes to DVD, then use DVD Shrink to edit them as usual.
>>>>
>>>> Well, the move from videotape to DVD went surprisingly well. I ended
>>>> up with a disc that does play (complete with its own rather odd menu),
>>>> but it seems to be doing something to the files, because DVD Shrink
>>>> refuses to load them, as do some other programs. Shrink gives me the
>>>> message "Programming error - impossible state occurred. - reason
>>>> unknown".
>>>>
>>>> Any idea why or how to get around this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not all programs can handle the VR formats of some Recorders.
>>>I use TMPGEnc DVD Author (TDA) to read mine, it has an "Add
>>>DVD video" button and process that will allow you to extract the
>>>MPEG data correctly. You can then continue to use TDA to make
>>>a new DVD or leave TDA after it has made the .mpg files and use
>>>those in another program.
>>
>>
>> Thanks. That worked. Although I had to go out of the way a bit. TDA
>> let me load the DVD files from the recorders (which DVD Shrink
>> wouldn't load). And TDA then put out new files that DVD Shrink WOULD
>> load. I Rejiged the files into separate audio and video files, and
>> started to load them back into TDA to create the final menu and DVD.
>> That's when I ran into the problem. TDA refused to accept the audio
>> files, saying they were an illegal format. Never done that before. But
>> I managed to get around it by using TMPFEnc Plus to convert the audio
>> file into a different kind of audio MPEG, and finally, TDA accepted
>> those sound files and output a working DVD with both sound and
>> picture.
>>
>> But I've never been able to get TDA to accept files straight out of
>> DVD Shrink without losing the sound. I've always had to use Rejig on
>> them first (and sometimes DVD Lab to rewrite the GOP timecode of the
>> video files). Am I doing something wrong here? Should TDA accept
>> edited files directly from DVD Shrink?
>>
>
> Yes, it always did for me. Why are you putting your video
>files back into Shrink? Not sure what "Rejig" means. There
>should be no need to demux the .mpg files.
I mostly edit excerpts from DVD's, not the full movies. I used Shrink
to capture the parts I want and leave the rest. Once I do this, if I
try to load those edited files (from Shrink) into TDA, I usually (but
not always) lose the sound. Video is fine, but no audio. And
sometimes, it refuses to accept the edited files at all, saying they
are "illegal files". It's been ages since I last tried it, so I don't
remember all of the details, only that it usually doesn't work.
Instead, I've always had to use Rejig to demux the Shrink-edited files
into separate audio and video files, fix their GOP in DVD Lab, and
then finally load the files back into TDA to create the final menu.
Once in a while the "Add DVD" button will work and take the files
straight after Shrink edits them, but more often than not, it doesn't
work, and the audio is lost.
> I only very rarely use Shrink any more, but when I do it is to
>shrink a TDA created DVD that was just a little too big to fit
>on a single layer DVD+R. I just quickly author my too big
>DVD files, ignoring TDA's warning that it is too big. Then
>use shrink on the VIDEO_TS folder TDA made.
I haven't tried to use TDA to edit excerpts directly from DVD's. The
editing process seemed rather clumsy when I tried it long ago, and
DVD-Shrink seemed much more intuative for editing. Is that what you
do? And does it work well for you?
> There is one other tool that comes in handy when you are working
>with MPEG and trying to be sure it conforms to DVD Specs.
>VideoReDo www.VideoReDo.com will remux and rewrite all the
>headers to stricter DVD compliance. But in this case you shouldn't
>need it.
Thanks. I'll take a look at it.