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April 21, 2005 12:44:31 PM

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Hi,

Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
(lipsyncing) a song.

What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?

1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
audio goes onto tape?

2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
blaster so he can hear it too?

Other ?

Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?

Thanks..


Rock
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April 21, 2005 12:44:32 PM

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"Rock" <1940@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:4266db9e$0$8122$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi,
>
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?

That's the way it's done. You can record the ghetto blaster audio on the
camera ifyou want -- it will make it a little easier to sync up when you
edit because you can match the recorded wave forms with the wave forms from
the clean audio track that you'll use.


>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?
>
> Other ?
>
> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?
>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 12:44:32 PM

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"Rock" wrote ...
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?
>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?

You're on the right track that you need to record the playback
track (no pun intended.) As Ptravel mentioned, better to have a
direct input to make it easier to match. Clearly, either way you
need to let the "talent" hear the tracks also.

> Other ?

I'd certainly shoot the whole thing at least 3-4 times all the way
through at various locations, framings, angles, etc. If for no other
reason than to give yourself cutaway options in editing to cover
less desirable things you'd rather not have in the final cut.

> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?

If the camera doesn't have "sound input control", then it has
automatic-level and no outboard device can undo the effect
of that automatic process.


>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock
>
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Anonymous
April 21, 2005 7:20:37 PM

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"Rock" <1940@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:4266db9e$0$8122$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi,
>
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?
>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?
>
> Other ?
>
> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?
>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock

One suggestion I have is to let the talent actually sing along with the
music. This makes it easier for them to keep in sync, easier for you to
find a sync if it's gone out, and it makes it look like they are really
singing.

You can tell when someone is singing and when they are not. And it's a dead
give-away on music video's.
Tom P.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:22:34 PM

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Would you want to sample some of the ambient sound of the country to mix
with the cd audio, so that it doesn't sound too "studio"?


Rock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?
>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?
>
> Other ?
>
> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?
>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:53:53 PM

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"Rock" <1940@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:4266db9e$0$8122$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi,
>
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?
>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?
>
> Other ?
>
> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?
>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock

I don't know if this got posted last time or not so please forgive me if
this is repeated.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
One more thing: Please ask the talent to actually sing. This does a couple
of things - first off, it's easier to sing in sync with a song if you are
singing. Second, it helps you make sure the talent is using the right
shapes for his lips. Third, you can tell if someone is really singing or
not and it looks really fake when they don't actually sing.

Tom P.
April 22, 2005 11:09:33 AM

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Thank you guys so much for all your help..

It is all very helpful and will be utilized when we go out in a couple
of weeks.

Rock



Rock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Soon will have to take a guy out ino the country to video him singing
> (lipsyncing) a song.
>
> What is the best way to do this making sure in the edit it will sync?
>
> 1. Have a ghetto blaster behind a bush so he can hear it not caring what
> audio goes onto tape?
>
> 2. Connect a CD to the audio input of camera as well as using ghetto
> blaster so he can hear it too?
>
> Other ?
>
> Also.. On a camera without sound input control, is there a mini pre amp
> one can connect the mic too and control vol b4 the camera input?
>
> Thanks..
>
>
> Rock
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