Importing from Mini DVD shot on consumer Sony DVD camcorder

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Ty Ford wrote:
> Does any one have a way to pull the audio and video files off one of those
> new mini DVD discs that you use to record on the Sony DVD cameras?
>
> I get a Video TS_folder with VIDEO_TS.BUP, .IFO and VOB files and
> VTS_01_0.BUP, IFO and .VOB files.


Didn't listen to us about these camcorders, did you Ty?

> insert huge grin here <

First of all, the VOB files are the only ones to concern yourself with.
There's a wide range of tools such as DVD2AVI at
http://www.videohelp.com/convert to help you through this process.
Look in the "format conversion" drop down box for "DVD to ..."

Depending on your NLE (Vegas in my case), you might be able to simply
drop the VOB (fancy name for mpeg-2) file right on the timeline. With
others, you'll have to use one of the tools listed above.

Audio is another problem altogether. If the DVD was done with PCM
(i.e. WAV) audio, it should show up with the video in the example
above. If it was AC3 audio though, then you'll have to convert it
using one of the tools (BeSweet, AC3Tool, etc.) at the site listed
above. A word of warning though. AC3 audio is just like MP3 audio in
that it's highly compressed and a conversion back to WAV format may not
be pretty, especially for someone as fussy about audio as you are :-(

Mike

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 22:25:43 -0400, Mike Kujbida wrote
(in article <1123035943.011564.187050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ):

>
> Ty Ford wrote:
>> Does any one have a way to pull the audio and video files off one of those
>> new mini DVD discs that you use to record on the Sony DVD cameras?
>>
>> I get a Video TS_folder with VIDEO_TS.BUP, .IFO and VOB files and
>> VTS_01_0.BUP, IFO and .VOB files.
>
>
> Didn't listen to us about these camcorders, did you Ty?
>
>> insert huge grin here <
>
> First of all, the VOB files are the only ones to concern yourself with.
> There's a wide range of tools such as DVD2AVI at
> http://www.videohelp.com/convert to help you through this process.
> Look in the "format conversion" drop down box for "DVD to ..."
>
> Depending on your NLE (Vegas in my case), you might be able to simply
> drop the VOB (fancy name for mpeg-2) file right on the timeline. With
> others, you'll have to use one of the tools listed above.
>
> Audio is another problem altogether. If the DVD was done with PCM
> (i.e. WAV) audio, it should show up with the video in the example
> above. If it was AC3 audio though, then you'll have to convert it
> using one of the tools (BeSweet, AC3Tool, etc.) at the site listed
> above. A word of warning though. AC3 audio is just like MP3 audio in
> that it's highly compressed and a conversion back to WAV format may not
> be pretty, especially for someone as fussy about audio as you are :-(
>
> Mike
>

Again, thanks Mike....Bummer, they all appear to be PC instead of Mac.

Regards.

Ty


-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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Mike Kujbida wrote:
>
> Didn't listen to us about these camcorders, did you Ty?

I'm still baffled as to how these have been so readily accepted by
videography enthusiasts. I guess not many people actually do anything
with the videos that they film - because if they did, I think these
cams would go down in flames.

> Depending on your NLE (Vegas in my case), you might be able to simply
> drop the VOB (fancy name for mpeg-2) file right on the timeline.

I also use Vegas and I've dropped VOBs into the timeline before. While
Vegas will allow you to do this - I've noticed that it doesn't seem to
like them very much and they are not easy to work with. I won't go
into detail - because I think most people know what I'm talking about.

A program that I use that really is great with editing VOBs and mpeg is
Womble Video Wizard (www.womble.com). You can slide the cursor up and
down the timeline and there's never any sticking - cuts through them
like butter.

Of course, you don't have nearly the number of options for editing as
you do with raw video - but you can still do quite a bit with this
program.

joe

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Ty Ford wrote:
>
> Again, thanks Mike....Bummer, they all appear to be PC instead of Mac.
>
> Regards.
>
> Ty


Sorry Ty, I forgot you were on a Mac.
I entered "Mac DVD rippers" into Google.
Take a look at http://tinyurl.com/7p34r for some software.
Or do what a buddy of mine at a local post house does. He takes the
component or Y/C outs from a DVD player and dumps it into his FCP
suite. No worries about having to experiment with software that may or
may not work properly.

Mike

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William Davis wrote:

> In article <S96dnZ2dnZ1RL7WlnZ2dneUsbd-dnZ2dRVn-y52dnZ0@comcast.com>,
> Ty Ford <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 22:25:43 -0400, Mike Kujbida wrote
>>(in article <1123035943.011564.187050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ):
>>
>>
>>>Ty Ford wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does any one have a way to pull the audio and video files off one of those
>>>>new mini DVD discs that you use to record on the Sony DVD cameras?
>>>>
>>>>I get a Video TS_folder with VIDEO_TS.BUP, .IFO and VOB files and
>>>>VTS_01_0.BUP, IFO and .VOB files.
>>>
>>>
>>>Didn't listen to us about these camcorders, did you Ty?
>>>
>>>
>>>>insert huge grin here <
>>>
>>>First of all, the VOB files are the only ones to concern yourself with.
>>> There's a wide range of tools such as DVD2AVI at
>>>http://www.videohelp.com/convert to help you through this process.
>>>Look in the "format conversion" drop down box for "DVD to ..."
>>>
>>>Depending on your NLE (Vegas in my case), you might be able to simply
>>>drop the VOB (fancy name for mpeg-2) file right on the timeline. With
>>>others, you'll have to use one of the tools listed above.
>>>
>>>Audio is another problem altogether. If the DVD was done with PCM
>>>(i.e. WAV) audio, it should show up with the video in the example
>>>above. If it was AC3 audio though, then you'll have to convert it
>>>using one of the tools (BeSweet, AC3Tool, etc.) at the site listed
>>>above. A word of warning though. AC3 audio is just like MP3 audio in
>>>that it's highly compressed and a conversion back to WAV format may not
>>>be pretty, especially for someone as fussy about audio as you are :-(
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>
>>Again, thanks Mike....Bummer, they all appear to be PC instead of Mac.
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>>Ty
>>
>>
>>-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
>>stuff are at www.tyford.com
>
>
> Ty,
>
> The VOB files are nothing more than DVD compliant MPEG2 files. Try
> re-naming them .mpg and your video editor should be able to import and
> parse them.

From what I've tried (renaming) and what I've heard that statement is
only partially true! The files are Not the same MPEG2 as .MPG files!
A VOB (Video OBject) combines audio and compressed video differently.
Do some tests, and tell us what you find.

> On the Mac you could use FCP or even iMovie (if it exports audio, I
> don't know because I'm an FCP shop and don't use it)
>
> Load them into any decent video editing program and you should be able
> to output the audio tracks as AIFF or whatever else you need.
>
> Good luck

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On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 08:29:29 -0400, James Perrett wrote
(in article <opsuxmbfsbdjgvgv@news.nerc.ac.uk> ):

> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:45:31 -0400, Ty Ford <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Does any one have a way to pull the audio and video files off one of
>> those
>> new mini DVD discs that you use to record on the Sony DVD cameras?
>>
>> I get a Video TS_folder with VIDEO_TS.BUP, .IFO and VOB files and
>> VTS_01_0.BUP, IFO and .VOB files.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ty Ford
>>
>
> Try changing the .vob extension to .mpg or .m2v - this seems to work with
> many low end editing programs.
>
> Cheers.
>
> James.

-The MacRipper Program doesn't want to work on my Mac.

-Renaming the files works, but I still only get the first clip out of the
whole disc.

-DVDxDV sort of works, but you can only do audio or video, not both together
and the video looks stretched horizontally.

Regards,

Ty (audio is way easier) Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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Ty Ford wrote:
> Does any one have a way to pull the audio and video files off one of those
> new mini DVD discs that you use to record on the Sony DVD cameras?
>
> I get a Video TS_folder with VIDEO_TS.BUP, .IFO and VOB files and
> VTS_01_0.BUP, IFO and .VOB files.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ty Ford


Don't finalize the disk! Record in VR Mode. If you hook up your USB
cable you can use the software that came with the camera to get .mpg
files on your computer that you can edit.