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I hope you can help me with my problem.

I have a home network (wireless) with 1 - desktop; 2 - laptops and two
printers. All computers are running Windows XP -Pro SP2 and I am using MC
AFee Firewall. My ISP is DSL with static IP and the DSL Modem is configured
as bridge connection connected to my router of which is D-Link 614+ model.
Within my network everything works fine as far as sharing files, remote
desktop between the desktop and the laptops as well as the printers.

My problem is setting up my remote desktop outside of my network to connect
to my desktop. On my router, I opened Ports 3389 and 1723 but still I cannot
connect either through VPN or plain remote desktop and configured my router
putting the static IP address.

My first question is do I need a third party software to established VPN
connection or can I just use the XP VPN capability? If it is possible, is
there a website that you can refer me with detailed step by step instructions
on how to do it including troubleshooting. Second question is can I just set
up a plain remote desktop exclusively between one of my laptops and the
desktop.

Please advise and I will appreciate any help you cn give me.

Thanks,


Mike
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

    For PPTP VPN you need both TCP Port 1723 forwarded through any
    firewall/NAT/router *AND* enable GRE Protocol 47 traffic through the
    firewall/NAT/router. Some manufacturers call the latter "PPTP Pass Through"
    or "VPN Pass Through". Consult the documentation for help with that.

    You can run the test detailed in the "VPN Traffic" section near the end of
    this page to help pinpoint the problem area...

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0105.mspx
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=49ae8576-9bb9-4126-9761-ba8011fabf38&displaylang=en

    See these pages for additional help with RDP...

    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html

    Running RDP through a SSH tunnel...

    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDesktopVNCandSSH.html

    Personally I run RDP through a SSL tunnel...

    http://3sp.com/showSslExplorer.do
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13775231

    --

    Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

    Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
    benefit of all of us...
    The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights...


    "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B6447B7F-BFE0-43E0-95AD-5A3DD784B138@microsoft.com...
    >I hope you can help me with my problem.
    >
    > I have a home network (wireless) with 1 - desktop; 2 - laptops and two
    > printers. All computers are running Windows XP -Pro SP2 and I am using MC
    > AFee Firewall. My ISP is DSL with static IP and the DSL Modem is
    > configured
    > as bridge connection connected to my router of which is D-Link 614+ model.
    > Within my network everything works fine as far as sharing files, remote
    > desktop between the desktop and the laptops as well as the printers.
    >
    > My problem is setting up my remote desktop outside of my network to
    > connect
    > to my desktop. On my router, I opened Ports 3389 and 1723 but still I
    > cannot
    > connect either through VPN or plain remote desktop and configured my
    > router
    > putting the static IP address.
    >
    > My first question is do I need a third party software to established VPN
    > connection or can I just use the XP VPN capability? If it is possible, is
    > there a website that you can refer me with detailed step by step
    > instructions
    > on how to do it including troubleshooting. Second question is can I just
    > set
    > up a plain remote desktop exclusively between one of my laptops and the
    > desktop.
    >
    > Please advise and I will appreciate any help you cn give me.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

    Thanks for your prompt response on my questions. I am fairly new on
    networking so pardon me if I ask questions that are too basic.

    How do I find the NAT and NIS in my router? What are the other jargon or
    words for the NAT and NIS. I checked the website you mentioned but I still
    cannot figure out my problem.

    Is it possible for you to do a remote assistance on my desktop to
    reconfigure my router?

    Thanks,

    Mike

    "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

    > For PPTP VPN you need both TCP Port 1723 forwarded through any
    > firewall/NAT/router *AND* enable GRE Protocol 47 traffic through the
    > firewall/NAT/router. Some manufacturers call the latter "PPTP Pass Through"
    > or "VPN Pass Through". Consult the documentation for help with that.
    >
    > You can run the test detailed in the "VPN Traffic" section near the end of
    > this page to help pinpoint the problem area...
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0105.mspx
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=49ae8576-9bb9-4126-9761-ba8011fabf38&displaylang=en
    >
    > See these pages for additional help with RDP...
    >
    > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html
    >
    > Running RDP through a SSH tunnel...
    >
    > http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDesktopVNCandSSH.html
    >
    > Personally I run RDP through a SSL tunnel...
    >
    > http://3sp.com/showSslExplorer.do
    > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13775231
    >
    > --
    >
    > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >
    > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
    > benefit of all of us...
    > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights...
    >
    >
    > "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B6447B7F-BFE0-43E0-95AD-5A3DD784B138@microsoft.com...
    > >I hope you can help me with my problem.
    > >
    > > I have a home network (wireless) with 1 - desktop; 2 - laptops and two
    > > printers. All computers are running Windows XP -Pro SP2 and I am using MC
    > > AFee Firewall. My ISP is DSL with static IP and the DSL Modem is
    > > configured
    > > as bridge connection connected to my router of which is D-Link 614+ model.
    > > Within my network everything works fine as far as sharing files, remote
    > > desktop between the desktop and the laptops as well as the printers.
    > >
    > > My problem is setting up my remote desktop outside of my network to
    > > connect
    > > to my desktop. On my router, I opened Ports 3389 and 1723 but still I
    > > cannot
    > > connect either through VPN or plain remote desktop and configured my
    > > router
    > > putting the static IP address.
    > >
    > > My first question is do I need a third party software to established VPN
    > > connection or can I just use the XP VPN capability? If it is possible, is
    > > there a website that you can refer me with detailed step by step
    > > instructions
    > > on how to do it including troubleshooting. Second question is can I just
    > > set
    > > up a plain remote desktop exclusively between one of my laptops and the
    > > desktop.
    > >
    > > Please advise and I will appreciate any help you cn give me.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely (More info?)

    Open a Single Port
    Please visit http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1005 for
    complete FAQ.

    Step 1 Open your web browser and enter the IP address of your D-Link
    router (192.168.0.1). Enter username (admin) and your password (blank by
    default).

    Step 2 Click on Advanced on top and then click Virtual Server on the
    left side.

    Step 3 Check Enabled to activate entry.

    Step 4 Enter a name for your virtual server entry.

    Step 5 Next to Private IP, enter the IP address of the computer on
    your local network that you want to allow the incoming service to.

    Step 6 Choose Protocol Type - either TCP, UDP, or both. If you are not
    sure, select both.

    Step 7 Enter the port information next to Private Port and Public
    Port. The private and public ports are usually the same. The public port is
    the port seen from the WAN side, and the private port is the port being used
    by the application on the computer within your local network.

    Step 8 Enter the Schedule information.

    Step 9 Click Apply and then click Continue.

    Because our routers use NAT (Network Address Translation), you can
    only open a specific port or ports to one computer at a time. For example:
    If you have 2 web servers on your network, you cannot open port 80 to both
    computers. You will need to configure 1 of the web servers to use port 81.
    Now you can open port 80 to the first computer and then open port 81 to the
    other computer.

    PPTP VPN
    Protocols have 8 bit identification numbers that are specified
    in the TCP header. PPTP uses Protocol Id 47 which is GRE. Protocol 6 is TCP.
    This identifies what protocol is being used.

    This router does not support specific rules for specific
    protocols other than TCP or UDP. The correct Virtual Server entry will
    however forward Protocol ID 47/GRE properly.

    Make sure you have the latest firmware. To upgrade, visit
    http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=966. After flashing the
    firmware reset the router. Reconfigure your WAN interface to connect with
    your ISP. Verify Internet connection.

    In Virtual Server make 1 entry for your PPTP/GRE connection. Use
    TCP port 1723 and forward to your MS VPN (PPTP/GRE) server. This has to be
    TCP (not UDP or Both). After applying settings, check Firewall section for a
    TCP 1723 entry and a PPTP_GRE entry. Now connect to your WAN IP address
    using your MS VPN client from the WAN (this will not work from LAN using the
    WAN IP to loopback to LAN).

    Note: PPTP pass-through does not need to be enabled in the Tools
    > Misc section


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------


    "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:EBA05082-DB36-4040-925B-01F6F27A62BC@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks for your prompt response on my questions. I am fairly new on
    > networking so pardon me if I ask questions that are too basic.
    >
    > How do I find the NAT and NIS in my router? What are the other jargon or
    > words for the NAT and NIS. I checked the website you mentioned but I still
    > cannot figure out my problem.
    >
    > Is it possible for you to do a remote assistance on my desktop to
    > reconfigure my router?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >> For PPTP VPN you need both TCP Port 1723 forwarded through any
    >> firewall/NAT/router *AND* enable GRE Protocol 47 traffic through the
    >> firewall/NAT/router. Some manufacturers call the latter "PPTP Pass
    >> Through"
    >> or "VPN Pass Through". Consult the documentation for help with that.
    >>
    >> You can run the test detailed in the "VPN Traffic" section near the end
    >> of
    >> this page to help pinpoint the problem area...
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0105.mspx
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=49ae8576-9bb9-4126-9761-ba8011fabf38&displaylang=en
    >>
    >> See these pages for additional help with RDP...
    >>
    >> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html
    >>
    >> Running RDP through a SSH tunnel...
    >>
    >> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDesktopVNCandSSH.html
    >>
    >> Personally I run RDP through a SSL tunnel...
    >>
    >> http://3sp.com/showSslExplorer.do
    >> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13775231
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    >>
    >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
    >> benefit of all of us...
    >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights...
    >>
    >>
    >> "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:B6447B7F-BFE0-43E0-95AD-5A3DD784B138@microsoft.com...
    >> >I hope you can help me with my problem.
    >> >
    >> > I have a home network (wireless) with 1 - desktop; 2 - laptops and two
    >> > printers. All computers are running Windows XP -Pro SP2 and I am using
    >> > MC
    >> > AFee Firewall. My ISP is DSL with static IP and the DSL Modem is
    >> > configured
    >> > as bridge connection connected to my router of which is D-Link 614+
    >> > model.
    >> > Within my network everything works fine as far as sharing files, remote
    >> > desktop between the desktop and the laptops as well as the printers.
    >> >
    >> > My problem is setting up my remote desktop outside of my network to
    >> > connect
    >> > to my desktop. On my router, I opened Ports 3389 and 1723 but still I
    >> > cannot
    >> > connect either through VPN or plain remote desktop and configured my
    >> > router
    >> > putting the static IP address.
    >> >
    >> > My first question is do I need a third party software to established
    >> > VPN
    >> > connection or can I just use the XP VPN capability? If it is possible,
    >> > is
    >> > there a website that you can refer me with detailed step by step
    >> > instructions
    >> > on how to do it including troubleshooting. Second question is can I
    >> > just
    >> > set
    >> > up a plain remote desktop exclusively between one of my laptops and the
    >> > desktop.
    >> >
    >> > Please advise and I will appreciate any help you cn give me.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks,
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Mike
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >>


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    Beb,

    Thanks for your prompt reply and I really appreciate it.

    I did everything you said as shown below:

    On the virtual server I have this entry:
    PPTP xxx.xxx.x.xxxTCP 1723/1723 always xxx - means my desktop lan ip address

    On the Firewall screen I have this entry:

    Allow PPTP WAN,* LAN,xxx.xxx.0.xxxTCP,1723
    Allow PPTP_GRE WAN,* LAN,xxx.xxx.x.xxxGRE,

    My dilemna is the forwarding to the MS VPN. How do I do it. I take it that
    you mean forward my static IP from my ISP to my desktop xxx.xxx.x.xxx.

    After I do that when I set up my VPN connection as client (from my laptop),
    am I right that I use my static IP?

    Please advise and again thanks a bunch

    Mike


    "beb" wrote:

    > Open a Single Port
    > Please visit http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1005 for
    > complete FAQ.
    >
    > Step 1 Open your web browser and enter the IP address of your D-Link
    > router (192.168.0.1). Enter username (admin) and your password (blank by
    > default).
    >
    > Step 2 Click on Advanced on top and then click Virtual Server on the
    > left side.
    >
    > Step 3 Check Enabled to activate entry.
    >
    > Step 4 Enter a name for your virtual server entry.
    >
    > Step 5 Next to Private IP, enter the IP address of the computer on
    > your local network that you want to allow the incoming service to.
    >
    > Step 6 Choose Protocol Type - either TCP, UDP, or both. If you are not
    > sure, select both.
    >
    > Step 7 Enter the port information next to Private Port and Public
    > Port. The private and public ports are usually the same. The public port is
    > the port seen from the WAN side, and the private port is the port being used
    > by the application on the computer within your local network.
    >
    > Step 8 Enter the Schedule information.
    >
    > Step 9 Click Apply and then click Continue.
    >
    > Because our routers use NAT (Network Address Translation), you can
    > only open a specific port or ports to one computer at a time. For example:
    > If you have 2 web servers on your network, you cannot open port 80 to both
    > computers. You will need to configure 1 of the web servers to use port 81.
    > Now you can open port 80 to the first computer and then open port 81 to the
    > other computer.
    >
    > PPTP VPN
    > Protocols have 8 bit identification numbers that are specified
    > in the TCP header. PPTP uses Protocol Id 47 which is GRE. Protocol 6 is TCP.
    > This identifies what protocol is being used.
    >
    > This router does not support specific rules for specific
    > protocols other than TCP or UDP. The correct Virtual Server entry will
    > however forward Protocol ID 47/GRE properly.
    >
    > Make sure you have the latest firmware. To upgrade, visit
    > http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=966. After flashing the
    > firmware reset the router. Reconfigure your WAN interface to connect with
    > your ISP. Verify Internet connection.
    >
    > In Virtual Server make 1 entry for your PPTP/GRE connection. Use
    > TCP port 1723 and forward to your MS VPN (PPTP/GRE) server. This has to be
    > TCP (not UDP or Both). After applying settings, check Firewall section for a
    > TCP 1723 entry and a PPTP_GRE entry. Now connect to your WAN IP address
    > using your MS VPN client from the WAN (this will not work from LAN using the
    > WAN IP to loopback to LAN).
    >
    > Note: PPTP pass-through does not need to be enabled in the Tools
    > > Misc section
    >
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    > "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:EBA05082-DB36-4040-925B-01F6F27A62BC@microsoft.com...
    > > Thanks for your prompt response on my questions. I am fairly new on
    > > networking so pardon me if I ask questions that are too basic.
    > >
    > > How do I find the NAT and NIS in my router? What are the other jargon or
    > > words for the NAT and NIS. I checked the website you mentioned but I still
    > > cannot figure out my problem.
    > >
    > > Is it possible for you to do a remote assistance on my desktop to
    > > reconfigure my router?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >
    > > "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
    > >
    > >> For PPTP VPN you need both TCP Port 1723 forwarded through any
    > >> firewall/NAT/router *AND* enable GRE Protocol 47 traffic through the
    > >> firewall/NAT/router. Some manufacturers call the latter "PPTP Pass
    > >> Through"
    > >> or "VPN Pass Through". Consult the documentation for help with that.
    > >>
    > >> You can run the test detailed in the "VPN Traffic" section near the end
    > >> of
    > >> this page to help pinpoint the problem area...
    > >>
    > >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0105.mspx
    > >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=49ae8576-9bb9-4126-9761-ba8011fabf38&displaylang=en
    > >>
    > >> See these pages for additional help with RDP...
    > >>
    > >> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html
    > >>
    > >> Running RDP through a SSH tunnel...
    > >>
    > >> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDesktopVNCandSSH.html
    > >>
    > >> Personally I run RDP through a SSL tunnel...
    > >>
    > >> http://3sp.com/showSslExplorer.do
    > >> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13775231
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
    > >>
    > >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
    > >> benefit of all of us...
    > >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> rights...
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "mchjr01" <mchjr01@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:B6447B7F-BFE0-43E0-95AD-5A3DD784B138@microsoft.com...
    > >> >I hope you can help me with my problem.
    > >> >
    > >> > I have a home network (wireless) with 1 - desktop; 2 - laptops and two
    > >> > printers. All computers are running Windows XP -Pro SP2 and I am using
    > >> > MC
    > >> > AFee Firewall. My ISP is DSL with static IP and the DSL Modem is
    > >> > configured
    > >> > as bridge connection connected to my router of which is D-Link 614+
    > >> > model.
    > >> > Within my network everything works fine as far as sharing files, remote
    > >> > desktop between the desktop and the laptops as well as the printers.
    > >> >
    > >> > My problem is setting up my remote desktop outside of my network to
    > >> > connect
    > >> > to my desktop. On my router, I opened Ports 3389 and 1723 but still I
    > >> > cannot
    > >> > connect either through VPN or plain remote desktop and configured my
    > >> > router
    > >> > putting the static IP address.
    > >> >
    > >> > My first question is do I need a third party software to established
    > >> > VPN
    > >> > connection or can I just use the XP VPN capability? If it is possible,
    > >> > is
    > >> > there a website that you can refer me with detailed step by step
    > >> > instructions
    > >> > on how to do it including troubleshooting. Second question is can I
    > >> > just
    > >> > set
    > >> > up a plain remote desktop exclusively between one of my laptops and the
    > >> > desktop.
    > >> >
    > >> > Please advise and I will appreciate any help you cn give me.
    > >> >
    > >> > Thanks,
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > Mike
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    >
    >
    >
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