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Hiya

I have a unique problem with home burnt DVD's - I can't copy them !

I store all my DVD images on my HDD incase I need to burn another copy
- but I lost a project after a HDD crash and I needed another copy for
a friend, so I thought I would just copy the files to my HDD (there's
obviously no copyright protection).

Explorer gave me a "data error (cyclic redundancy check)" at 75%
copied (the final VOB file).

I tried with DVD Decrypter (as recommended by a mate) but that stops
at 75% an I/O Error ; either -

"Interpretation : No seek completed" or
"L-EC Uncorrectable error"

Out of interest I took some other home movies off the shelf and they
all stop at 75% with either of the above errors.....

But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?

A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
crash out at 75% !!!

On one hand this is great as I know that when I produce DVD's for
people they cannot make copies of the wedding for Aunt Doris - but on
the other hand it's very very annoying as I don't understand what's
wrong ?!?

I have tried this with several different brands of media, on DVD+R &
DVD-R and it's always the same !

If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
hardware profiles for contemplation....

thanks in advance
j'arrow

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j'arrow@home.net wrote:

> If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
> hardware profiles for contemplation....

You're just copying the Video TS folder off the disc, right? I see no
reason why you couldn't - it's just a set of files.

Gary Eickmeier

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Yup

Tried just copying the files as data - but still the cyclic redundancy
error.....

If I could work out what's happening I wonder if I should patent the
idea and sell it to the industry ;-)

j'arrow


On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:44:42 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
<geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>
>> If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
>> hardware profiles for contemplation....
>
>You're just copying the Video TS folder off the disc, right? I see no
>reason why you couldn't - it's just a set of files.
>
>Gary Eickmeier

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j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>
> Hiya

> But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
> players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>
> A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
> crash out at 75% !!!

> j'arrow

Are you sure the videos don't start breaking up and skip when you get to
the 75% mark when playing on stand alone DVD player? DVD players have
some built-in error correcting. Since Nero won't make a copy, it sounds
to me like you have a corrupt file.

George

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It's possible that there's an error on the disk that the DVD players
are circumnavigating... and that error would have to be on every burn
- if that's the case then the DVD burner could be the problem...

I don't know if Nero will make a copy as I've been unable to copy the
files to the PC... I wonder if I should try a Disk-Disk copy with Nero
?

j'arrow


On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:12:23 -0500, George <steber@execpc.com> wrote:

>
>
>j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>>
>> Hiya
>
>> But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
>> players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>>
>> A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
>> crash out at 75% !!!
>
>> j'arrow
>
>Are you sure the videos don't start breaking up and skip when you get to
>the 75% mark when playing on stand alone DVD player? DVD players have
>some built-in error correcting. Since Nero won't make a copy, it sounds
>to me like you have a corrupt file.
>
>George

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Naah - Nero error :

15:03:55 #15 TRANSFER -25 File Reader.cpp, Line 382
Error reading data

15:03:55 #16 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 385
Exception value: -1128

15:03:55 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

15:03:55 #18 Phase 22 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Reading disc failed


On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:59:33 GMT, j'arrow@home.net wrote:

>
>It's possible that there's an error on the disk that the DVD players
>are circumnavigating... and that error would have to be on every burn
>- if that's the case then the DVD burner could be the problem...
>
>I don't know if Nero will make a copy as I've been unable to copy the
>files to the PC... I wonder if I should try a Disk-Disk copy with Nero
>?
>
> j'arrow
>
>
>On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:12:23 -0500, George <steber@execpc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Hiya
>>
>>> But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
>>> players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>>>
>>> A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
>>> crash out at 75% !!!
>>
>>> j'arrow
>>
>>Are you sure the videos don't start breaking up and skip when you get to
>>the 75% mark when playing on stand alone DVD player? DVD players have
>>some built-in error correcting. Since Nero won't make a copy, it sounds
>>to me like you have a corrupt file.
>>
>>George

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Is the 75% where the error occurs a percentage of the actual file size
or the same location on the disk ?

If you have a consistant error occuring you either have a problem with
the writer or a bad batch of disk blanks.

Are you using read after write verification ?

My DVD player is a cheap piece of stuff but it seems to play anything
no matter how badly scratched up. I have to assume from its performance
that it just ignores errors and plays whatever it can find.

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try copying the file (where you get the error) onto another folder. I
had this problem with a VCD and this worked.

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try copying the file (where you get the error) onto another folder. I
had this problem with a VCD and this worked.

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OK I'll give that a go in the morning

thanks

j'arrow


On 9 Sep 2005 13:02:14 -0700, "ghosh02" <soumitra@gmail.com> wrote:

>try copying the file (where you get the error) onto another folder. I
>had this problem with a VCD and this worked.

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:31:27 GMT, j'arrow@home.net wrote:

>Hiya
>
>I have a unique problem with home burnt DVD's - I can't copy them !
>
>I store all my DVD images on my HDD incase I need to burn another copy
>- but I lost a project after a HDD crash and I needed another copy for
>a friend, so I thought I would just copy the files to my HDD (there's
>obviously no copyright protection).
>
>Explorer gave me a "data error (cyclic redundancy check)" at 75%
>copied (the final VOB file).
>
>I tried with DVD Decrypter (as recommended by a mate) but that stops
>at 75% an I/O Error ; either -
>
>"Interpretation : No seek completed" or
>"L-EC Uncorrectable error"
>
>Out of interest I took some other home movies off the shelf and they
>all stop at 75% with either of the above errors.....
>
>But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
>players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>
>A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
>crash out at 75% !!!
>
>On one hand this is great as I know that when I produce DVD's for
>people they cannot make copies of the wedding for Aunt Doris - but on
>the other hand it's very very annoying as I don't understand what's
>wrong ?!?
>
>I have tried this with several different brands of media, on DVD+R &
>DVD-R and it's always the same !
>
>If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
>hardware profiles for contemplation....
>
>thanks in advance
> j'arrow

Iso Buster will get your DVD files to your HD
http://www.isobuster.com/

TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress or TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 DVD import wizard
might work but Iso Buster never fails. XPSP2 sometimes chokes on UDF
1.02 files I've found.

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Thanks Matey -

I'll download that and give it a go ! [WinXP-PRO SP2 tho' ?!?)


j'arrow

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:02:45 GMT, JimK <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:31:27 GMT, j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>
>>Hiya
>>
>>I have a unique problem with home burnt DVD's - I can't copy them !
>>
>>I store all my DVD images on my HDD incase I need to burn another copy
>>- but I lost a project after a HDD crash and I needed another copy for
>>a friend, so I thought I would just copy the files to my HDD (there's
>>obviously no copyright protection).
>>
>>Explorer gave me a "data error (cyclic redundancy check)" at 75%
>>copied (the final VOB file).
>>
>>I tried with DVD Decrypter (as recommended by a mate) but that stops
>>at 75% an I/O Error ; either -
>>
>>"Interpretation : No seek completed" or
>>"L-EC Uncorrectable error"
>>
>>Out of interest I took some other home movies off the shelf and they
>>all stop at 75% with either of the above errors.....
>>
>>But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
>>players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>>
>>A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
>>crash out at 75% !!!
>>
>>On one hand this is great as I know that when I produce DVD's for
>>people they cannot make copies of the wedding for Aunt Doris - but on
>>the other hand it's very very annoying as I don't understand what's
>>wrong ?!?
>>
>>I have tried this with several different brands of media, on DVD+R &
>>DVD-R and it's always the same !
>>
>>If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
>>hardware profiles for contemplation....
>>
>>thanks in advance
>> j'arrow
>
>Iso Buster will get your DVD files to your HD
>http://www.isobuster.com/
>
>TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress or TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 DVD import wizard
>might work but Iso Buster never fails. XPSP2 sometimes chokes on UDF
>1.02 files I've found.

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Ummm - not sure I'm doing this right !!!

in Isobuster - Extract DVD-R <image>
User Data (.tao .iso)

at 68% hit the error :

"Unreadable Sector"

Clicked "Replace with all zeros"

3 hours later and it's still 68% and Not Responding...

What am I doing wrong please ??

TIA
j'arrow


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:29:38 GMT, j'arrow@home.net wrote:

>
>Thanks Matey -
>
>I'll download that and give it a go ! [WinXP-PRO SP2 tho' ?!?)
>
>
> j'arrow
>
>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:02:45 GMT, JimK <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:31:27 GMT, j'arrow@home.net wrote:
>>
>>>Hiya
>>>
>>>I have a unique problem with home burnt DVD's - I can't copy them !
>>>
>>>I store all my DVD images on my HDD incase I need to burn another copy
>>>- but I lost a project after a HDD crash and I needed another copy for
>>>a friend, so I thought I would just copy the files to my HDD (there's
>>>obviously no copyright protection).
>>>
>>>Explorer gave me a "data error (cyclic redundancy check)" at 75%
>>>copied (the final VOB file).
>>>
>>>I tried with DVD Decrypter (as recommended by a mate) but that stops
>>>at 75% an I/O Error ; either -
>>>
>>>"Interpretation : No seek completed" or
>>>"L-EC Uncorrectable error"
>>>
>>>Out of interest I took some other home movies off the shelf and they
>>>all stop at 75% with either of the above errors.....
>>>
>>>But the DVD's play perfectly on at least a dozen stand-alone DVD
>>>players (including a PS2) and on every PC that I have tried them on ?
>>>
>>>A couple of friends have tried to copy them as well and they always
>>>crash out at 75% !!!
>>>
>>>On one hand this is great as I know that when I produce DVD's for
>>>people they cannot make copies of the wedding for Aunt Doris - but on
>>>the other hand it's very very annoying as I don't understand what's
>>>wrong ?!?
>>>
>>>I have tried this with several different brands of media, on DVD+R &
>>>DVD-R and it's always the same !
>>>
>>>If someone thinks that they could help - I'll submit my software &
>>>hardware profiles for contemplation....
>>>
>>>thanks in advance
>>> j'arrow
>>
>>Iso Buster will get your DVD files to your HD
>>http://www.isobuster.com/
>>
>>TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress or TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 DVD import wizard
>>might work but Iso Buster never fails. XPSP2 sometimes chokes on UDF
>>1.02 files I've found.

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This whole thing may be a *mechanical* problem with
the drive itself (laser positioning mechanism sticking at the
same plac