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Hi all,

OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is fourteen.
Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for one he
can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in his
pocket.

I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a mother..a geek
mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.

--
Thanks,

Geek using
Jornada 547

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He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or any
software and pass it to the jornada using activesync

"Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi all,
>
> OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is fourteen.
> Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for one
he
> can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
> jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in his
> pocket.
>
> I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a mother..a
geek
> mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
> something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Geek using
> Jornada 547
>
>

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He can also use the desktop version of Windows Media Player to create
wmf files that can be played with the PPC's WMP.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that cost
moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free alternatives. I
would assume you need to have conversion software for this.


"Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or any
> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
>
> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
fourteen.
> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for one
> he
> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in
his
> > pocket.
> >
> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a mother..a
> geek
> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Geek using
> > Jornada 547
> >
> >
>
>

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CDex(http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is free, uses the lame encoder and works
great. I've been using it for years and it's just a great program.

--
Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)

The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
news:%233YtYKPSEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that cost
> moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free alternatives. I
> would assume you need to have conversion software for this.
>
>
> "Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
> news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or any
>> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
>>
>> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
> fourteen.
>> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for
>> > one
>> he
>> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
>> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in
> his
>> > pocket.
>> >
>> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a mother..a
>> geek
>> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
>> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Geek using
>> > Jornada 547
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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Hi Eric,

Thanks. I did also download musicmatch and it seems to have worked but it
did seem a bit weird to figure out at first, but we muttled our way through
it. I am going to check your advice too. Sounds good and if it is simple all
the better.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't these files supposed to be smaller than
wmf? Isn't that supposed to be the attraction? Sorry, as you can tell I
haven't played with this before. my device is so old that an media bogs it
down, but my son has a clean device because he doesn't use anything so I
figured he could try this out.
"Eric Hicks [MVP, Windows Mobile devices]" <e_dadu@nomospam.yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:%2321HZYPSEHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> CDex(http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is free, uses the lame encoder and works
> great. I've been using it for years and it's just a great program.
>
> --
> Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)
>
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
>
>
> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
> news:%233YtYKPSEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that cost
> > moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free alternatives.
I
> > would assume you need to have conversion software for this.
> >
> >
> > "Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
> > news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or any
> >> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
> >>
> >> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
> > fourteen.
> >> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for
> >> > one
> >> he
> >> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
> >> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in
> > his
> >> > pocket.
> >> >
> >> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a
mother..a
> >> geek
> >> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
> >> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Geek using
> >> > Jornada 547
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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Or, couldn't he encode the files as WMA, and transfer them over?

WMP9 should do that easily.

"Eric Hicks [MVP, Windows Mobile devices]" <e_dadu@nomospam.yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:%2321HZYPSEHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> CDex(http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is free, uses the lame encoder and works
> great. I've been using it for years and it's just a great program.
>
> --
> Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)
>
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
>
>
> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
> news:%233YtYKPSEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that cost
>> moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free alternatives. I
>> would assume you need to have conversion software for this.
>>
>>
>> "Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
>> news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or any
>>> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
>>>
>>> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
>> fourteen.
>>> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for
>>> > one
>>> he
>>> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
>>> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in
>> his
>>> > pocket.
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a
>>> > mother..a
>>> geek
>>> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
>>> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Geek using
>>> > Jornada 547
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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The file sizes between mp3's and wma's at the same bitrate will be the same
size. The difference is in the sound. Wma's sound much better than mp3s at
lower bitrates < 96k. It depends on how critical you are of your music.
For getting music on the ppc, windows media does a great job as all you have
to do is sit the device on the cradle to sync, open wmp on the desktop and
tell it to transfer to your device or the storage card on your device. With
cdex you have to manually transfer the files over and I believe musicmatch
can move the files in the same way as windows media player.

--
Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)

The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...



"Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
news:%232dRVHQSEHA.2216@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi Eric,
>
> Thanks. I did also download musicmatch and it seems to have worked but it
> did seem a bit weird to figure out at first, but we muttled our way
> through
> it. I am going to check your advice too. Sounds good and if it is simple
> all
> the better.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't these files supposed to be smaller
> than
> wmf? Isn't that supposed to be the attraction? Sorry, as you can tell I
> haven't played with this before. my device is so old that an media bogs it
> down, but my son has a clean device because he doesn't use anything so I
> figured he could try this out.
> "Eric Hicks [MVP, Windows Mobile devices]" <e_dadu@nomospam.yahoo.com>
> wrote
> in message news:%2321HZYPSEHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> CDex(http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is free, uses the lame encoder and works
>> great. I've been using it for years and it's just a great program.
>>
>> --
>> Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)
>>
>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
>> news:%233YtYKPSEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that cost
>> > moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free alternatives.
> I
>> > would assume you need to have conversion software for this.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
>> > news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or
>> >> any
>> >> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
>> >>
>> >> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> >> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
>> > fourteen.
>> >> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for
>> >> > one
>> >> he
>> >> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on
>> >> > his
>> >> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole
>> >> > in
>> > his
>> >> > pocket.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a
> mother..a
>> >> geek
>> >> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
>> >> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Geek using
>> >> > Jornada 547
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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Thanks Beverly. he did try that first which is very easy, but he became
fixated on mp3 for some reason. I don't know what the advantages are to be
honest. He got pocket music and he asked me how to get a mp3 on to his
device. He has some trouble because he is a special needs kiddo so he gets
very confused and frustrated so I am like you, I thought wmf is easier for
him. However, he is like a dog with a bone so I am trying to help him with
this. If anyone can tell me why mp3 is so popular it might help so I can
explain the differences to him. Thanks.
"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:eLpgECPSEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> He can also use the desktop version of Windows Media Player to create
> wmf files that can be played with the PPC's WMP.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

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OK that helps a ton Eric. Thanks, this will help settle him down a bit too
because I think he thought mp3 was a smaller size. I think he is better off
moving the wmfs on the device and calling it done. It certainly will save
him space not to have pocket music on his device too. That Jornada is shaky
the way it is. I can't say the mp3 would sound that different on the
Jornada's tinny little speaker. I don't know maybe it does...will have to
compare.

"Eric Hicks [MVP, Windows Mobile devices]" <e_dadu@nomospam.yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:uPukV$QSEHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> The file sizes between mp3's and wma's at the same bitrate will be the
same
> size. The difference is in the sound. Wma's sound much better than mp3s
at
> lower bitrates < 96k. It depends on how critical you are of your music.
> For getting music on the ppc, windows media does a great job as all you
have
> to do is sit the device on the cradle to sync, open wmp on the desktop and
> tell it to transfer to your device or the storage card on your device.
With
> cdex you have to manually transfer the files over and I believe musicmatch
> can move the files in the same way as windows media player.
>
> --
> Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)
>
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
>
>
> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
> news:%232dRVHQSEHA.2216@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > Thanks. I did also download musicmatch and it seems to have worked but
it
> > did seem a bit weird to figure out at first, but we muttled our way
> > through
> > it. I am going to check your advice too. Sounds good and if it is simple
> > all
> > the better.
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't these files supposed to be smaller
> > than
> > wmf? Isn't that supposed to be the attraction? Sorry, as you can tell I
> > haven't played with this before. my device is so old that an media bogs
it
> > down, but my son has a clean device because he doesn't use anything so I
> > figured he could try this out.
> > "Eric Hicks [MVP, Windows Mobile devices]" <e_dadu@nomospam.yahoo.com>
> > wrote
> > in message news:%2321HZYPSEHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> CDex(http://www.cdex.n3.net/) is free, uses the lame encoder and works
> >> great. I've been using it for years and it's just a great program.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric Hicks [That_Kid] (MS-MVP Mobile Devices)
> >>
> >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%233YtYKPSEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Well, on the windows media player I see tht there are plugins that
cost
> >> > moola for creating mp3 with window media player. Any free
alternatives.
> > I
> >> > would assume you need to have conversion software for this.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Manuel Romero" <mromerop_arroba_hotmail_punto_com> wrote in message
> >> > news:ePl$J5OSEHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >> He can create the mp3 using quintaessential player or musicmatch or
> >> >> any
> >> >> software and pass it to the jornada using activesync
> >> >>
> >> >> "Geek" <geek@geek.com> escribió en el mensaje
> >> >> news:%23iIR6fOSEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is
> >> > fourteen.
> >> >> > Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how
for
> >> >> > one
> >> >> he
> >> >> > can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on
> >> >> > his
> >> >> > jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole
> >> >> > in
> >> > his
> >> >> > pocket.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a
> > mother..a
> >> >> geek
> >> >> > mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we
need
> >> >> > something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Geek using
> >> >> > Jornada 547
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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Geek wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> OK my son has my first jornada that I passed along to him. He is fourteen.
> Reality Check<yikes>..so he would like me to ask you experts how for one he
> can take his CD music and turn it into a mp3 file and place it on his
> jornada which now has a trial of pocket music on it burning a hole in his
> pocket.
>
> I am not sure about that stuff. He is young and I am well...a mother..a geek
> mother ok...but still a mother if you know what I mean. so, we need
> something easy for him to understand. Thanks in Advance.
>
Download iTunes.
goto www.apple.com/itunes and use that to create MP3 files. It is by far
the easiest software to use, and you can create unrestricted MP3s from a
CD at any quality you want. I reccomend 112kbs or 96kbs for a mobile device.

If you use the "get names" tool when converting music iTunes will place
music in an organised folder and name all the files accoridng to the
song title (in my documents > my music) so you can drag over an album at
a time to your device in Windows explorer.

You can then make playlists on the PocketPC.

Marc

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He appears to know more about WMP than most ;-)

Personally, I don't use it for the more sinister reasons that are behind
the scenes... specifically DRM concerns.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]