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May 15, 2004 9:55:21 PM

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I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for AMD
processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had problems with it.
I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7. Have any users had
experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am looking for reliability
above everything else, then compatibility with the current CPU, Hard Drives,
memory, and USB devices I have on my AT7. Any good general opinions of these
mobos from actual use, rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.

More about : kv7 nf7

May 15, 2004 11:22:42 PM

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"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:D Qspc.7305$zO3.3586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for AMD
> processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had problems with
it.
> I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7. Have any users had
> experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am looking for reliability
> above everything else, then compatibility with the current CPU, Hard
Drives,
> memory, and USB devices I have on my AT7. Any good general opinions of
these
> mobos from actual use, rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.
>
>
I have built 3 systems around the abit nf7 (s) now, all have been super
reliable. My own uses xp2600 barton clocked to 200x11, my little bro's uses
xp2600 tbred clocked the same and my work friend uses a 'super locked'
xp2500, currently running 200 x 11 aswell (although his has std hsf
assembly). All run without problem being clocked to xp3200 speeds.
I have used IDE drives on all of them, all being seagate barracuda 8mb cache
models. Although they say that no prep is needed I do find I have to fdisk
them to create partitions (this takes ages). The latest chipset drivers
(3.13) are much quicker than the ones initially supplied with mine (2.45's).
There is a separate ide driver. I upgraded mine by applying them straight
over the old ones. No probs so far.
Abit dont supply USB2 drivers for xp, you need to d/l sp1, minor niggle i
suppose. Only problem I've had has been with canon usb2 scanner - keeps
recognising it as 'unknown hardware' and hence wont load drivers for it!
I have noticed recently that abit have stopped supplying the 40 conductor
ide cable with the mobo, they only supply 1 x 80 conductor + 1 floppy (+ 1
sata). No big deal for upgrader like yourself but pain if you havent
budgeted for it on a new build.

I run mine with an Aopen fx5900, 2600barton @ 200 x 11, slk800 + 2500rpm
80mm, 2 x 256 OCZ pc3200 cl2 2-3-3-11, 120gb 8mb cache barracuda, dvd-rom +
cdrw, internal asdl modem, win xp home sp1

currently i couldnt be more happier with it.
If i wanted to build a pc on a *tight* budget then I go for the KD7A,
overclocks really well and is v cheap now.

hth

chris
Anonymous
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May 15, 2004 11:28:12 PM

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"Chris" <karen.christiaan@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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|
| I have built 3 systems around the abit nf7 (s) now, all have been super
| reliable. My own uses xp2600 barton clocked to 200x11, my little bro's
uses
| xp2600 tbred clocked the same and my work friend uses a 'super locked'
| xp2500, currently running 200 x 11 aswell (although his has std hsf
| assembly). All run without problem being clocked to xp3200 speeds.
| I have used IDE drives on all of them, all being seagate barracuda 8mb
cache
| models. Although they say that no prep is needed I do find I have to
fdisk
| them to create partitions (this takes ages). The latest chipset drivers
| (3.13) are much quicker than the ones initially supplied with mine
(2.45's).
| There is a separate ide driver. I upgraded mine by applying them straight
| over the old ones. No probs so far.
| Abit dont supply USB2 drivers for xp, you need to d/l sp1, minor niggle i
| suppose. Only problem I've had has been with canon usb2 scanner - keeps
| recognising it as 'unknown hardware' and hence wont load drivers for it!
| I have noticed recently that abit have stopped supplying the 40 conductor
| ide cable with the mobo, they only supply 1 x 80 conductor + 1 floppy (+
1
| sata). No big deal for upgrader like yourself but pain if you havent
| budgeted for it on a new build.
|
| I run mine with an Aopen fx5900, 2600barton @ 200 x 11, slk800 + 2500rpm
| 80mm, 2 x 256 OCZ pc3200 cl2 2-3-3-11, 120gb 8mb cache barracuda, dvd-rom
+
| cdrw, internal asdl modem, win xp home sp1
|
| currently i couldnt be more happier with it.
| If i wanted to build a pc on a *tight* budget then I go for the KD7A,
| overclocks really well and is v cheap now.
|
| hth
|
| chris
|
|

Hi Chris -

Newer WHQL driver packs were released on 10 May -

For 2000/XP - version 4.24 :
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_4.24

For 98SE/ME - version 4.20 :
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_4.20

The 2000/XP drivers incorporate the SW IDE driver previously released as
beta. Both include the Audio drivers previously released as beta.

Jef
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 15, 2004 11:44:19 PM

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Chris wrote:
> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:D Qspc.7305$zO3.3586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for
>> AMD processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had
>> problems with it. I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7.
>> Have any users had experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am
>> looking for reliability above everything else, then compatibility
>> with the current CPU, Hard Drives, memory, and USB devices I have on
>> my AT7. Any good general opinions of these mobos from actual use,
>> rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.
>>
>>
> I have built 3 systems around the abit nf7 (s) now, all have been
> super reliable. My own uses xp2600 barton clocked to 200x11, my
> little bro's uses xp2600 tbred clocked the same and my work friend
> uses a 'super locked' xp2500, currently running 200 x 11 aswell
> (although his has std hsf assembly). All run without problem being
> clocked to xp3200 speeds.
> I have used IDE drives on all of them, all being seagate barracuda
> 8mb cache models. Although they say that no prep is needed I do find
> I have to fdisk them to create partitions (this takes ages). The
> latest chipset drivers (3.13) are much quicker than the ones
> initially supplied with mine (2.45's). There is a separate ide
> driver. I upgraded mine by applying them straight over the old ones.
> No probs so far.

I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and other )
drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if I change my
mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering all the software
currently installed on my Win2K system.

> Abit dont supply USB2 drivers for xp, you need to d/l sp1, minor
> niggle i suppose. Only problem I've had has been with canon usb2
> scanner - keeps recognising it as 'unknown hardware' and hence wont
> load drivers for it!

Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The AT7 has USB
1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work even on
bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main reasons I am
looking for another mobo. Still my current USB keyboard and mouse predate
USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with USB 1.1.

> I have noticed recently that abit have stopped supplying the 40
> conductor ide cable with the mobo, they only supply 1 x 80 conductor
> + 1 floppy (+ 1 sata). No big deal for upgrader like yourself but
> pain if you havent budgeted for it on a new build.

I already have the correct cable from my current system, as you have
surmised.

>
> I run mine with an Aopen fx5900, 2600barton @ 200 x 11, slk800 +
> 2500rpm 80mm, 2 x 256 OCZ pc3200 cl2 2-3-3-11, 120gb 8mb cache
> barracuda, dvd-rom + cdrw, internal asdl modem, win xp home sp1

Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.

>
> currently i couldnt be more happier with it.
> If i wanted to build a pc on a *tight* budget then I go for the KD7A,
> overclocks really well and is v cheap now.

No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or the KV7
with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and the enthusiasm
you have displayed for your own system, as well as the NForce 2 reviews as
better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that the NF7 is the way to go.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 16, 2004 2:12:14 AM

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>«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»«snip»

>No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or the KV7

NF7-S v2.0 with the nForce2 MCP2-T chipset, not;
NF7 v2.0 without the nForce2 MCP2-T chip

BoroLad
May 16, 2004 3:12:37 AM

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"Jef Norton" <jefn_REMOVE_YOUR_SHORTS_@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:gbupc.8928$5t.4757@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...

> Hi Chris -
>
> Newer WHQL driver packs were released on 10 May -
>
> For 2000/XP - version 4.24 :
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_winxp_4.24
>
> For 98SE/ME - version 4.20 :
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_4.20
>
> The 2000/XP drivers incorporate the SW IDE driver previously released as
> beta. Both include the Audio drivers previously released as beta.
>
> Jef
>
>

Thanks, I dont religiously keep my drivers updated as i used too but have
now d/l these drivers.

chris
May 16, 2004 3:40:29 AM

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"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:nqupc.11371$KE6.10827@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

> I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
> automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and other )
> drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if I change my
> mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering all the software
> currently installed on my Win2K system.

If its long term stability that you are after then really a format and clean
install is the way to go, the registry is minefield just waiting for you to
fall over into! You will not regret starting over.

> Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The AT7 has
USB
> 1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work even on
> bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main reasons I am
> looking for another mobo. Still my current USB keyboard and mouse predate
> USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with USB 1.1.

Yes, all usb2 ports are 1.1 compatible. I am currently running a HP
photosmart 1215 thru a usb2 hub attatched to the (usb2) ports on the
motherboard. no probs with that at all. If you are trying to get a usb
keyboard and mouse on bootup then you will have to visit the BIOS and set
'USB KEYBOARD SUPPORT' from 'OS' to 'BIOS' (or some such similar). Your
older keyboard and mouse should work fine on any usb2 mobo.

> Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.

I would advise you get a 2500+ as the new chips are 'superlocked', meaning
it is nigh on impossible to set any multiplier you want on them. It can be
done (making the chip think its a mobile version) but its aggro. The 2500+
has the same default multiplier as the 3200+, hence all you need is a bit of
PC3200 ram (so you can run cpu and ram in synch) and then up the fsb on the
cpu from 166 to 200. This runs the xp2500+ at the 3200+ speeds (2.2ghz).
All this is VERY EASILY done on the nf7s. If you have a high end gaming rig
then you may also want to up the core voltage of the chip or you may find
games crash to desktop sometimes, again this is easily done.
The 2500+ will be cheaper than a 2600+ also.

> No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or the
KV7
> with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and the enthusiasm
> you have displayed for your own system, as well as the NForce 2 reviews as
> better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that the NF7 is the way to go.

The abit nf7s is probably going to be one of the best socketA mobo's around.
I cant see many people developing a better one now 64bits has arrived, spesh
when the 64bit boards that dont require ECC ram are the norm. The sata is
an upgrade path for when/if your current ide drive fails (then you could
also run 4 opticals if you should so wish!), the onboard sound is more than
adequate, my SBLive 5.1 went straight on ebay! plus you can run the 2500 at
3200 AND keep your cheap ram until you get PC3200 as the nf7s will run it
all ok together (ahem, asumming your ram was... ...cheap stuff ;-)

chris
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 16, 2004 5:22:25 AM

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Chris wrote:
> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nqupc.11371$KE6.10827@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>> I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
>> automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and
>> other ) drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if
>> I change my mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering all
>> the software currently installed on my Win2K system.
>
> If its long term stability that you are after then really a format
> and clean install is the way to go, the registry is minefield just
> waiting for you to fall over into! You will not regret starting over.

Probably not but it is a bear re-installing all that software again and
re-setting up everything. I do wish MS had a way of separating OS/hardware
settings in a different place than application settings, and that one caould
easily migrate application settings from one install of an OS to another.

>
>> Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The AT7
>> has USB
>> 1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work
>> even on bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main
>> reasons I am looking for another mobo. Still my current USB keyboard
>> and mouse predate USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with USB 1.1.
>
> Yes, all usb2 ports are 1.1 compatible. I am currently running a HP
> photosmart 1215 thru a usb2 hub attatched to the (usb2) ports on the
> motherboard. no probs with that at all. If you are trying to get a
> usb keyboard and mouse on bootup then you will have to visit the BIOS
> and set 'USB KEYBOARD SUPPORT' from 'OS' to 'BIOS' (or some such
> similar). Your older keyboard and mouse should work fine on any usb2
> mobo.

Good to hear.

>
>> Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.
>
> I would advise you get a 2500+ as the new chips are 'superlocked',
> meaning it is nigh on impossible to set any multiplier you want on
> them. It can be done (making the chip think its a mobile version)
> but its aggro. The 2500+ has the same default multiplier as the
> 3200+, hence all you need is a bit of PC3200 ram (so you can run cpu
> and ram in synch) and then up the fsb on the cpu from 166 to 200.
> This runs the xp2500+ at the 3200+ speeds (2.2ghz). All this is VERY
> EASILY done on the nf7s. If you have a high end gaming rig then you
> may also want to up the core voltage of the chip or you may find
> games crash to desktop sometimes, again this is easily done.
> The 2500+ will be cheaper than a 2600+ also.

The 2500+ it is.

>
>> No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or
>> the KV7 with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and
>> the enthusiasm you have displayed for your own system, as well as
>> the NForce 2 reviews as better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that
>> the NF7 is the way to go.
>
> The abit nf7s is probably going to be one of the best socketA mobo's
> around. I cant see many people developing a better one now 64bits has
> arrived, spesh when the 64bit boards that dont require ECC ram are
> the norm. The sata is an upgrade path for when/if your current ide
> drive fails (then you could also run 4 opticals if you should so
> wish!), the onboard sound is more than adequate, my SBLive 5.1 went
> straight on ebay! plus you can run the 2500 at 3200 AND keep your
> cheap ram until you get PC3200 as the nf7s will run it all ok
> together (ahem, asumming your ram was... ...cheap stuff ;-)

The current ram was not cheap stuff, so it might be good enough for the new
system.

Thanks for your excellent user comments.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 16, 2004 5:22:26 AM

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Ed,

This is something I have posted previously, and I have used it myself on 2
upgrade occasions. I too did not want to reinstall everything. My system ran
fine for over 6 months both times( the last time is still running in this
NF7 that I'm using right now). This is a copy and paste from a post that I
saved from quite a while ago.
Trust me, this worked for me.

Amir

Quote:

First: I never recommend installing an operating system over the top of
another (even itself) Many times you will hose your internet (by loading
older Internet explorer files over new) and there may be other files (like
direct x) that have been updated in your current windows and it can never
help to load older software over the top of newer.

Second If you must load an operating system "over the top", uninstall all
anti virus software and every version of internet explorer listed in control
panel. you'll need to reboot after each one and continue uninstalling until
none are listed. Uninstall any hardware drivers listed in control panel,
this is very important if you will be changing hardware. You may not be
able to get the old drivers and software out unless the hardware is in the
machine. (ATI drivers are notorious for this)

Now as to the NEED to reinstall: It is rarely necessary to reinstall.
Windows ME will rebuild the hardware enumeration and generally work fine.if
you want to, after all your drivers are installed, boot in safe mode and go
into device manager and remove the old hardware that is still listed (don't
remove any hardware that is installed).

Windows 2000 and Windows XP are a different critter. If you still have the
old hardware in place, create and merge the mergeide.reg files from the
knowledge base articles 271965 and 314082 respectively. Then your system
will boot on the new hardware. Your keyboard and mouse may not work
immediately, since the hardware will have to enumerate. If they don't work
after a few minutes, reset the machine and boot again. eventually windows
will find all the new hardware and work fine. There are a few other ways to
accomplish the same thing but this is by far the easiest.

If you have already changed the hardware (and you cant reconnect to the old
hardware to do the registry merge) Its much more complicated. You may be
able to boot to the repair console and stop the IDE drivers that were
installed from starting.
Then the system will boot and re-enumerate the IDE drivers. Alternatively
find another motherboard with IDE drivers similar to the old motherboard and
try booting from that.

Failing that, you will have to do a repair, but that doesn't guarantee
success. you may repair windows only to find an inaccessible boot device.
Unfortunately if you reinstall, you generally loose all your installed
software too since I don;t know of a way to force an "upgrade" from the CD
Boot or the DOS Prompt.

Hope this helps, let me know how it turned out.


--
--
Bruce Hildebrand
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

Unquote.


"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:lnzpc.7943$zO3.81@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Chris wrote:
> > "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nqupc.11371$KE6.10827@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> >> I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
> >> automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and
> >> other ) drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if
> >> I change my mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering all
> >> the software currently installed on my Win2K system.
> >
> > If its long term stability that you are after then really a format
> > and clean install is the way to go, the registry is minefield just
> > waiting for you to fall over into! You will not regret starting over.
>
> Probably not but it is a bear re-installing all that software again and
> re-setting up everything. I do wish MS had a way of separating OS/hardware
> settings in a different place than application settings, and that one
caould
> easily migrate application settings from one install of an OS to another.
>
> >
> >> Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The AT7
> >> has USB
> >> 1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work
> >> even on bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main
> >> reasons I am looking for another mobo. Still my current USB keyboard
> >> and mouse predate USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with USB 1.1.
> >
> > Yes, all usb2 ports are 1.1 compatible. I am currently running a HP
> > photosmart 1215 thru a usb2 hub attatched to the (usb2) ports on the
> > motherboard. no probs with that at all. If you are trying to get a
> > usb keyboard and mouse on bootup then you will have to visit the BIOS
> > and set 'USB KEYBOARD SUPPORT' from 'OS' to 'BIOS' (or some such
> > similar). Your older keyboard and mouse should work fine on any usb2
> > mobo.
>
> Good to hear.
>
> >
> >> Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.
> >
> > I would advise you get a 2500+ as the new chips are 'superlocked',
> > meaning it is nigh on impossible to set any multiplier you want on
> > them. It can be done (making the chip think its a mobile version)
> > but its aggro. The 2500+ has the same default multiplier as the
> > 3200+, hence all you need is a bit of PC3200 ram (so you can run cpu
> > and ram in synch) and then up the fsb on the cpu from 166 to 200.
> > This runs the xp2500+ at the 3200+ speeds (2.2ghz). All this is VERY
> > EASILY done on the nf7s. If you have a high end gaming rig then you
> > may also want to up the core voltage of the chip or you may find
> > games crash to desktop sometimes, again this is easily done.
> > The 2500+ will be cheaper than a 2600+ also.
>
> The 2500+ it is.
>
> >
> >> No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or
> >> the KV7 with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and
> >> the enthusiasm you have displayed for your own system, as well as
> >> the NForce 2 reviews as better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that
> >> the NF7 is the way to go.
> >
> > The abit nf7s is probably going to be one of the best socketA mobo's
> > around. I cant see many people developing a better one now 64bits has
> > arrived, spesh when the 64bit boards that dont require ECC ram are
> > the norm. The sata is an upgrade path for when/if your current ide
> > drive fails (then you could also run 4 opticals if you should so
> > wish!), the onboard sound is more than adequate, my SBLive 5.1 went
> > straight on ebay! plus you can run the 2500 at 3200 AND keep your
> > cheap ram until you get PC3200 as the nf7s will run it all ok
> > together (ahem, asumming your ram was... ...cheap stuff ;-)
>
> The current ram was not cheap stuff, so it might be good enough for the
new
> system.
>
> Thanks for your excellent user comments.
>
>
May 16, 2004 9:03:33 PM

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I would get the NF7-S .. I have one know and it's been great. If you want
to OC then PC3200 or faster would be advised, DDR2700 will do. I like the
'S' version as Soundstorm is very good and is less CPU intensive than
soundcards.
It is always cleaner/better with a a new install .. but doesn't mean you
couldn't try and see if Windows can figure it out. If you Google on
installing MB without fresh install you can get some advice on how to it by
gettig rid of your device settings before you install new MB.
A lot of people are getting nice OCing with the mobile Barton 2500's.

"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:lnzpc.7943$zO3.81@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Chris wrote:
> > "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nqupc.11371$KE6.10827@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> >> I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
> >> automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and
> >> other ) drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if
> >> I change my mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering all
> >> the software currently installed on my Win2K system.
> >
> > If its long term stability that you are after then really a format
> > and clean install is the way to go, the registry is minefield just
> > waiting for you to fall over into! You will not regret starting over.
>
> Probably not but it is a bear re-installing all that software again and
> re-setting up everything. I do wish MS had a way of separating OS/hardware
> settings in a different place than application settings, and that one
caould
> easily migrate application settings from one install of an OS to another.
>
> >
> >> Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The AT7
> >> has USB
> >> 1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work
> >> even on bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main
> >> reasons I am looking for another mobo. Still my current USB keyboard
> >> and mouse predate USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with USB 1.1.
> >
> > Yes, all usb2 ports are 1.1 compatible. I am currently running a HP
> > photosmart 1215 thru a usb2 hub attatched to the (usb2) ports on the
> > motherboard. no probs with that at all. If you are trying to get a
> > usb keyboard and mouse on bootup then you will have to visit the BIOS
> > and set 'USB KEYBOARD SUPPORT' from 'OS' to 'BIOS' (or some such
> > similar). Your older keyboard and mouse should work fine on any usb2
> > mobo.
>
> Good to hear.
>
> >
> >> Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.
> >
> > I would advise you get a 2500+ as the new chips are 'superlocked',
> > meaning it is nigh on impossible to set any multiplier you want on
> > them. It can be done (making the chip think its a mobile version)
> > but its aggro. The 2500+ has the same default multiplier as the
> > 3200+, hence all you need is a bit of PC3200 ram (so you can run cpu
> > and ram in synch) and then up the fsb on the cpu from 166 to 200.
> > This runs the xp2500+ at the 3200+ speeds (2.2ghz). All this is VERY
> > EASILY done on the nf7s. If you have a high end gaming rig then you
> > may also want to up the core voltage of the chip or you may find
> > games crash to desktop sometimes, again this is easily done.
> > The 2500+ will be cheaper than a 2600+ also.
>
> The 2500+ it is.
>
> >
> >> No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or
> >> the KV7 with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and
> >> the enthusiasm you have displayed for your own system, as well as
> >> the NForce 2 reviews as better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that
> >> the NF7 is the way to go.
> >
> > The abit nf7s is probably going to be one of the best socketA mobo's
> > around. I cant see many people developing a better one now 64bits has
> > arrived, spesh when the 64bit boards that dont require ECC ram are
> > the norm. The sata is an upgrade path for when/if your current ide
> > drive fails (then you could also run 4 opticals if you should so
> > wish!), the onboard sound is more than adequate, my SBLive 5.1 went
> > straight on ebay! plus you can run the 2500 at 3200 AND keep your
> > cheap ram until you get PC3200 as the nf7s will run it all ok
> > together (ahem, asumming your ram was... ...cheap stuff ;-)
>
> The current ram was not cheap stuff, so it might be good enough for the
new
> system.
>
> Thanks for your excellent user comments.
>
>
May 16, 2004 11:19:22 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

I have a KV7. While it has been extremely reliable, I am disappointed that
on the KV7, my Enermax PSU (which has two fans) only runs the exhast fan
which shoots out of the back. The fan that sits directly above the CPU
stopped working when I upgraded my board from an ASUS A7V266-E.

The KV7 has two main power connectors and I have tried both and neither one
get both PSU fans running. It could be that the fan just died, but it's a
pretty new PSU and works fine in other systems with other boards.

FYI - I run a Barton XP2600 with 1gb of Crucial DDR 3200 ram.

Since I already had a Creative Audigy Platinum, I saw no reason to use the
onboard sound in this system and disabled it.

Pharoah


"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:D Qspc.7305$zO3.3586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for AMD
> processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had problems with
it.
> I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7. Have any users had
> experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am looking for reliability
> above everything else, then compatibility with the current CPU, Hard
Drives,
> memory, and USB devices I have on my AT7. Any good general opinions of
these
> mobos from actual use, rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 17, 2004 5:05:20 AM

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Wookie wrote:
> I would get the NF7-S .. I have one know and it's been great. If you
> want to OC then PC3200 or faster would be advised, DDR2700 will do.
> I like the 'S' version as Soundstorm is very good and is less CPU
> intensive than soundcards.

Yes, I like the idea of onboard sound.

> It is always cleaner/better with a a new install .. but doesn't mean
> you couldn't try and see if Windows can figure it out. If you Google
> on installing MB without fresh install you can get some advice on how
> to it by gettig rid of your device settings before you install new MB.

I received a good response which mentioned a possible way where I wouldn't
have to re-install Win2K.

> A lot of people are getting nice OCing with the mobile Barton 2500's.

That seems to be the way to go.

>
> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:lnzpc.7943$zO3.81@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Chris wrote:
>>> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:nqupc.11371$KE6.10827@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>> I am wondering if I replace my AT7 with an NF7 whether Win2k will
>>>> automatically detect the changes and install the correct IDE ( and
>>>> other ) drivers when I boot up, or do I have to re-install Win2K if
>>>> I change my mobo. The latter would be a major hassle considering
>>>> all the software currently installed on my Win2K system.
>>>
>>> If its long term stability that you are after then really a format
>>> and clean install is the way to go, the registry is minefield just
>>> waiting for you to fall over into! You will not regret starting
>>> over.
>>
>> Probably not but it is a bear re-installing all that software again
>> and re-setting up everything. I do wish MS had a way of separating
>> OS/hardware settings in a different place than application settings,
>> and that one caould easily migrate application settings from one
>> install of an OS to another.
>>
>>>
>>>> Are the USB2 ports backward compatible with USB 1.1 devices. The
>>>> AT7 has USB
>>>> 1.1 ports but I have had consistent problems getting them to work
>>>> even on bootup ( USB keyboard and mouse ) which is one of the main
>>>> reasons I am looking for another mobo. Still my current USB
>>>> keyboard and mouse predate USB 2.0 and supposedly only work with
>>>> USB 1.1.
>>>
>>> Yes, all usb2 ports are 1.1 compatible. I am currently running a HP
>>> photosmart 1215 thru a usb2 hub attatched to the (usb2) ports on the
>>> motherboard. no probs with that at all. If you are trying to get a
>>> usb keyboard and mouse on bootup then you will have to visit the
>>> BIOS and set 'USB KEYBOARD SUPPORT' from 'OS' to 'BIOS' (or some
>>> such similar). Your older keyboard and mouse should work fine on
>>> any usb2 mobo.
>>
>> Good to hear.
>>
>>>
>>>> Sounds good. I will look for 2500-2600 Barton for my new system.
>>>
>>> I would advise you get a 2500+ as the new chips are 'superlocked',
>>> meaning it is nigh on impossible to set any multiplier you want on
>>> them. It can be done (making the chip think its a mobile version)
>>> but its aggro. The 2500+ has the same default multiplier as the
>>> 3200+, hence all you need is a bit of PC3200 ram (so you can run cpu
>>> and ram in synch) and then up the fsb on the cpu from 166 to 200.
>>> This runs the xp2500+ at the 3200+ speeds (2.2ghz). All this is VERY
>>> EASILY done on the nf7s. If you have a high end gaming rig then you
>>> may also want to up the core voltage of the chip or you may find
>>> games crash to desktop sometimes, again this is easily done.
>>> The 2500+ will be cheaper than a 2600+ also.
>>
>> The 2500+ it is.
>>
>>>
>>>> No, I am not on that tight a budget. I can afford either the NF7 or
>>>> the KV7 with a high end AMD. From the silence regarding the KV7 and
>>>> the enthusiasm you have displayed for your own system, as well as
>>>> the NForce 2 reviews as better than the Vidia KT600, it seems that
>>>> the NF7 is the way to go.
>>>
>>> The abit nf7s is probably going to be one of the best socketA mobo's
>>> around. I cant see many people developing a better one now 64bits
>>> has arrived, spesh when the 64bit boards that dont require ECC ram
>>> are the norm. The sata is an upgrade path for when/if your current
>>> ide drive fails (then you could also run 4 opticals if you should so
>>> wish!), the onboard sound is more than adequate, my SBLive 5.1 went
>>> straight on ebay! plus you can run the 2500 at 3200 AND keep your
>>> cheap ram until you get PC3200 as the nf7s will run it all ok
>>> together (ahem, asumming your ram was... ...cheap stuff ;-)
>>
>> The current ram was not cheap stuff, so it might be good enough for
>> the new system.
>>
>> Thanks for your excellent user comments.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 17, 2004 5:07:58 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Pharoah wrote:
> I have a KV7. While it has been extremely reliable, I am disappointed
> that on the KV7, my Enermax PSU (which has two fans) only runs the
> exhast fan which shoots out of the back. The fan that sits directly
> above the CPU stopped working when I upgraded my board from an ASUS
> A7V266-E.
>
> The KV7 has two main power connectors and I have tried both and
> neither one get both PSU fans running. It could be that the fan just
> died, but it's a pretty new PSU and works fine in other systems with
> other boards.
>
> FYI - I run a Barton XP2600 with 1gb of Crucial DDR 3200 ram.
>
> Since I already had a Creative Audigy Platinum, I saw no reason to
> use the onboard sound in this system and disabled it.

Thanks for the info. Did the small size of the KV7 board cause any problems
in the installation ? From where did you purchase the mobo ?
May 17, 2004 6:58:17 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

No problems on install due to size. It was a breeze. Besides, I think your
case is a bigger hinderence with installations. I have a Lian Lee and the mb
tray slides out easily for access during installations.

Good Luck.


"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:o fUpc.9573$zO3.700@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Pharoah wrote:
> > I have a KV7. While it has been extremely reliable, I am disappointed
> > that on the KV7, my Enermax PSU (which has two fans) only runs the
> > exhast fan which shoots out of the back. The fan that sits directly
> > above the CPU stopped working when I upgraded my board from an ASUS
> > A7V266-E.
> >
> > The KV7 has two main power connectors and I have tried both and
> > neither one get both PSU fans running. It could be that the fan just
> > died, but it's a pretty new PSU and works fine in other systems with
> > other boards.
> >
> > FYI - I run a Barton XP2600 with 1gb of Crucial DDR 3200 ram.
> >
> > Since I already had a Creative Audigy Platinum, I saw no reason to
> > use the onboard sound in this system and disabled it.
>
> Thanks for the info. Did the small size of the KV7 board cause any
problems
> in the installation ? From where did you purchase the mobo ?
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 17, 2004 4:10:44 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

I have an NF7-S with a Mushkin Blue Matched RAM (for DDR), a Gigabyte 9200
video card, and a RealWorld 400W Case. Works like_a_charm from first
bootup. Easy to set up - I would download new bios if you want memory set
by SPD to work properly. Have a USB Keyboard - booted and worked in Win2000
and Win98 without a hitch. Also recently plugged my video camera into the
Firewire port and it immediately recognized and communicated at speeds where
I can watch videos, real time, from the camera on the CRT. I don't
overclock. The only thing that was a little confusing were the
instructions - I think the newest driver release made them a little out of
date, as the instructions say to install a USB Driver, but none are present
and it configures itself when the rest of the drivers are installed.
Couldn't recommend more.

Joe
"Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:D Qspc.7305$zO3.3586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for AMD
> processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had problems with
it.
> I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7. Have any users had
> experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am looking for reliability
> above everything else, then compatibility with the current CPU, Hard
Drives,
> memory, and USB devices I have on my AT7. Any good general opinions of
these
> mobos from actual use, rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 19, 2004 5:57:01 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Pharoah wrote:
> No problems on install due to size. It was a breeze. Besides, I think
> your case is a bigger hinderence with installations. I have a Lian
> Lee and the mb tray slides out easily for access during installations.

Good to hear if I do chose the KV7 as I have a Lian-Li full-size case also.

>
> Good Luck.
>
>
> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:o fUpc.9573$zO3.700@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Pharoah wrote:
>>> I have a KV7. While it has been extremely reliable, I am
>>> disappointed that on the KV7, my Enermax PSU (which has two fans)
>>> only runs the exhast fan which shoots out of the back. The fan that
>>> sits directly above the CPU stopped working when I upgraded my
>>> board from an ASUS A7V266-E.
>>>
>>> The KV7 has two main power connectors and I have tried both and
>>> neither one get both PSU fans running. It could be that the fan just
>>> died, but it's a pretty new PSU and works fine in other systems with
>>> other boards.
>>>
>>> FYI - I run a Barton XP2600 with 1gb of Crucial DDR 3200 ram.
>>>
>>> Since I already had a Creative Audigy Platinum, I saw no reason to
>>> use the onboard sound in this system and disabled it.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Did the small size of the KV7 board cause any
>> problems in the installation ? From where did you purchase the mobo ?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 19, 2004 5:57:27 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Joseph Sullivan wrote:
> I have an NF7-S with a Mushkin Blue Matched RAM (for DDR), a Gigabyte
> 9200 video card, and a RealWorld 400W Case. Works like_a_charm from
> first bootup. Easy to set up - I would download new bios if you want
> memory set by SPD to work properly. Have a USB Keyboard - booted and
> worked in Win2000 and Win98 without a hitch. Also recently plugged
> my video camera into the Firewire port and it immediately recognized
> and communicated at speeds where I can watch videos, real time, from
> the camera on the CRT. I don't overclock. The only thing that was a
> little confusing were the instructions - I think the newest driver
> release made them a little out of date, as the instructions say to
> install a USB Driver, but none are present and it configures itself
> when the rest of the drivers are installed. Couldn't recommend more.

Thanks. It sounds like it is a good solid system.

>
> Joe
> "Edward Diener" <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:D Qspc.7305$zO3.3586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> I am looking to get a new Abit board based on the latest support for
>> AMD processors from Abit. I currently run an AT7 but have had
>> problems with it. I am looking at getting either a KV7 or an NF7.
>> Have any users had experience with these mobos, good or bad ? I am
>> looking for reliability above everything else, then compatibility
>> with the current CPU, Hard Drives, memory, and USB devices I have on
>> my AT7. Any good general opinions of these mobos from actual use,
>> rather than hearsay, would be appreciated.
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