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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 19, 2004 9:25:03 PM

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Well at least worth 75$ ;-)

ASUS P3B-F MB in question is rev. 1.04.
Has voltage regulator chip [HIP6020ACB] which can provide 1.3V-3.5V.

I want to upgrade the mobo with a Tualatin 1200MHz (or 1300 or 1400 if
avail.) Celeron with 100MHz FSB in a fcpga2 package:
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/CPUI120001.ht...
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?Find=...
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sS...

Now I need a Slot 1 to Socket 370 CPU Adapter Board which is hard to get
around here - but I found this fcpga compliant 'noname' slotket:
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht...
And this is so far the only candidate for trial.

And further I need to change mobo to be fcpga2 compliant - since I dare not
modify the cpu pins - I found this fcpga2 Tualatin Adapter for socket 370
fcpga at the same local online-retailer:
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht...

And finally finishing the "Job" with a heat sink and a fan.
It seems to me like a dangerous sandwich - But will it work?? Should it work
provided that slotket isn't causing problems??
I know this is a hard questions - but one of you guys might have tried this
"china"-slotket model!
http://www.compgeeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=FCPGA-...

Thanks
Torben Birk
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 20, 2004 12:28:30 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

try looking for a slot T adapter.
I used to run a 1.4GHz celeron@120fsb on my old p3b-f.
cheers

"Torben Birk" <tbirk@post6.tele.banana.dk> wrote in message
news:40ab7c4b$0$145$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> Well at least worth 75$ ;-)
>
> ASUS P3B-F MB in question is rev. 1.04.
> Has voltage regulator chip [HIP6020ACB] which can provide 1.3V-3.5V.
>
> I want to upgrade the mobo with a Tualatin 1200MHz (or 1300 or 1400 if
> avail.) Celeron with 100MHz FSB in a fcpga2 package:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/CPUI120001.ht...
>
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?Find=...
>
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sS...
>
> Now I need a Slot 1 to Socket 370 CPU Adapter Board which is hard to get
> around here - but I found this fcpga compliant 'noname' slotket:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht...
> And this is so far the only candidate for trial.
>
> And further I need to change mobo to be fcpga2 compliant - since I dare
not
> modify the cpu pins - I found this fcpga2 Tualatin Adapter for socket 370
> fcpga at the same local online-retailer:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht...
>
> And finally finishing the "Job" with a heat sink and a fan.
> It seems to me like a dangerous sandwich - But will it work?? Should it
work
> provided that slotket isn't causing problems??
> I know this is a hard questions - but one of you guys might have tried
this
> "china"-slotket model!
>
http://www.compgeeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=FCPGA-...
>
> Thanks
> Torben Birk
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 20, 2004 2:16:10 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Torben Birk wrote:
> Well at least worth 75$ ;-)
>
> ASUS P3B-F MB in question is rev. 1.04.
> Has voltage regulator chip [HIP6020ACB] which can provide 1.3V-3.5V.
>
> I want to upgrade the mobo with a Tualatin 1200MHz (or 1300 or 1400 if
> avail.) Celeron with 100MHz FSB in a fcpga2 package:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/CPUI120001.ht...
> http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?Find=...
> http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sS...
>
> Now I need a Slot 1 to Socket 370 CPU Adapter Board which is hard to get
> around here - but I found this fcpga compliant 'noname' slotket:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht...
> And this is so far the only candidate for trial.
>
> And further I need to change mobo to be fcpga2 compliant - since I dare not
> modify the cpu pins - I found this fcpga2 Tualatin Adapter for socket 370
> fcpga at the same local online-retailer:
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht...
>
> And finally finishing the "Job" with a heat sink and a fan.
> It seems to me like a dangerous sandwich - But will it work?? Should it work
> provided that slotket isn't causing problems??
> I know this is a hard questions - but one of you guys might have tried this
> "china"-slotket model!
> http://www.compgeeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=FCPGA-...
>
> Thanks
> Torben Birk
>

Slot-T adapter is the only way to go for this upgrade - supports
Tualatin processors on the P3B-F out of the box, and you can use the
retail Intel heat sink and fan.

http://www.upgradeware.com/english/product/slott/slott....

If your RAM is PC133, I would recommend looking for a 1Ghz or 1.1Ghz
Tualatin Celeron and overclocking it to 133Mhz FSB - you will get much
better performance since RAM bandwidth is more of a bottleneck than CPU
cycles on a 440BX board. The 1Ghz Tualatin is pretty much guaranteed to
run flawlessly at 1.33Ghz (I have 3 at 1.5Ghz), and you'd have to be
unlucky to find a 1.1 that won't do 1.46Ghz reliably (although you may
have to increase Vcore slightly - Slot-T has jumpers for that). The
1.2Ghz and higher chips have a much lower probability of stability on
133Mhz FSB.

HTH

P2B
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 20, 2004 6:38:53 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Thanks for the advices! I will definitely go for the Slot-T solution.
I found a retailer in Germany (http://www.jes-computer.de) who has it in
stock :-))
They actually make an offer bundling it into a 1400MHz Tualatin and fan.
http://www.jes-computer.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPa...

Unfortunately I have a mix of PC100 and PC133 SDRAM.

Torben Birk
Denmark
May 25, 2004 7:45:29 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:38:53 +0200, "Torben Birk"
<tbirk@post6.tele.banana.dk> wrote:

>Thanks for the advices! I will definitely go for the Slot-T solution.
>I found a retailer in Germany (http://www.jes-computer.de) who has it in
>stock :-))
>They actually make an offer bundling it into a 1400MHz Tualatin and fan.
>http://www.jes-computer.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPa...
>
>Unfortunately I have a mix of PC100 and PC133 SDRAM.
>

All these celerons are for fsb100 as default. No ram problem.

P3B-F is with BX chipset. It is rather easy to use most adapters for
just fcpga.

http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_compatible_...

http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_success_tab...

when one make some few hardware mods.

Without doing any mods it is even possible to combine 2 adapters from
computerparts.dk

http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht...

and this

http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht...

price just 98 + 98 d.kr.

and then buy a celeron 1300 at compumail.dk

The 1400 is not worth the extra costs.

best regards

John
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
May 27, 2004 2:35:03 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Hi John

This enclosure only serve as a purpose for the academic interest since I've
already bougth the expected bullit proof Slot-T-solution.
Could you bring about some documentation or some relevant success stories or
perhaps you made it your self - anyway I am thinking of my
"sandwich"-solution (fcpga2):
P3B-F+
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht... +
http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht... +
Celeron Tualatin (256KB/0.13µm/100MHz) 1300/1400Mhz +
Any proper 370 cooler.

Why is the 1400 is not worth the extra costs? 6?!? Think of the extra
"clockwork" you get from the 1400MHz processor. In one year it adds up to a
lot. Unclocked and a round-the-clock working processor supplies you with
atleast an extra 100MHz times a year equals more than 3.000.000.000.000.000
clock cycles. :-)) More than enough to send Apollo11 to the moon again. :-o.
A 1400MHz processor can always be overclocked to a higher frequency than a
1300 not considdering electron tunnelling.

My concers of mixing PC100 and PC133 was that it was not solely of the PC133
type. In that case I would have chosen the PIII-S Tualatin 133 @ 1.40MHz (or
1.13 or 1.26). It has additionally a 512KB full-speed cache.

Cheers

Torben Birk



"JK" <junk@mail.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:p 0j6b097f3vbqhjn694uns6g4r08bp2174@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:38:53 +0200, "Torben Birk"
> <tbirk@post6.tele.banana.dk> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the advices! I will definitely go for the Slot-T solution.
> >I found a retailer in Germany (http://www.jes-computer.de) who has it in
> >stock :-))
> >They actually make an offer bundling it into a 1400MHz Tualatin and fan.
>
>http://www.jes-computer.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPa...
905
> >
> >Unfortunately I have a mix of PC100 and PC133 SDRAM.
> >
>
> All these celerons are for fsb100 as default. No ram problem.
>
> P3B-F is with BX chipset. It is rather easy to use most adapters for
> just fcpga.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_compatible_...
>
> http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/tualeron_success_tab...
>
> when one make some few hardware mods.
>
> Without doing any mods it is even possible to combine 2 adapters from
> computerparts.dk
>
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPS1S3701.ht...
>
> and this
>
> http://www.computer-parts.dk/cgi-bin/shop/ADPFCPGA21.ht...
>
> price just 98 + 98 d.kr.
>
> and then buy a celeron 1300 at compumail.dk
>
> The 1400 is not worth the extra costs.
>
> best regards
>
> John
!