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Thanks for all your ideas. It wasn't til I read a review for the Logitech
Desktop MX Keyboard & mouse, written by a guy who had the EXACT same problem
as me, that I realised I was maybe on a loser! He was told by Microsoft that
it was an unsolveable problem, and they swapped it. Second one did the same.
He bought Logitech, perfecto!
I've sent the Keyboard back, the dealer has given me a full refund (Thanks
AMAZON, great service - even refunded my postage)
I've tried my neighbours wireless KB and it's perfect. I've added the
original KB that came with the PC (Logitech) and the PC starts first time,
every time. Good riddance Microsoft "Not-so-Elite" Keyboard ;-)
Cheers
Nik.
"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Note replies........
>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:c8kgug$jlh$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Nic,
> >
> > Please try and answer the questions below. Someone may be able to point
> 100%
> > at the cause if you do...
> >
> > There are several things you could do to check earthing problems that
> > include checking the resistance between the earth plug on the mains
cable
> > and the chassis on the PC - this should be zero ohms. Another is to
check
> > the mounting of the PCB in the case. Cases have light metal flanges
aroung
> > each IO socket on the rear. These are supposed to touch the socket
mounted
> > on the mobo. They are there to stop EFI / RFI leakage. Also check that
the
> > mobo has been mounted correctly. Most usually metal posts are supplied
and
> > they provide earth conduction to the motherboard.
> >
> I have no way of checking resistance! Sorry, not that technical.
>
> > If you did not have the correct chassis plate (IE none as some people
> have)
> > and a problem with the earth and .... a the keyboards USB cable plugged
> into
> > a self powered hub then... all sorts of things could go wrong. Earth is
> > there to protect things when things go wrong, so if there is no earth or
> > partial earth then small amounts of current can go all over the place.
> > Recently Paul stated something about PSU's pumping out a small flow to
> earth
> > being 'normal'.
> >
> It's a MESH PLC computer. I bought the K/B separately. I cost a small
> fortune and looks very well put together.
>
> > Have you tried the keyboard on another PC yet?
> > Have you tried another one of these keyboards you know is working from
> > another PC on your PC?
> >
> No other pC to try the K/B on, don't know anyone with this type of K/B
>
>
> > When you plug in the keyboard, plug the keyboard directly into the PS/2
> slot
> > & plug the USB mouse connector into the PS/2 style adapter (green) into
> the
> > adjacent Mouse port. Do *not* run the mouse through an intermediate USB
> hub.
> > The keyboard socket is always in the corner towards the edge of the PC.
Is
> > this correct? If in doubt, pull the mouse out. If in doubt pull out
*all*
> > USB stuff & external peripherals until this problem is solved.
>
> All peripheral disconnected and all combinations tried. The K/B is in the
> correct socket, the mouse is in USB (But I've tried it in PS/2 and it
works
> ok, but doesn't solve the problem) No hub is being used. The system only
> hangs when this k/b is connected to the PS/2 socket, regardless of any
other
> combination of peripherals.
> >
> > Check the keyboard plug does insert correctly. On several occasions I
have
> > had plugs and adapters (like the green one) where the plastic is too far
> > down the sleeve to allow the plug to go in far enough - this is in part
> due
> > to the case. Checked?
>
> It must be in correctly, I've pushed it right in, and all I need to do is
> press the reset button on the machine, and it works fine. I assume this
> wouldn't be the case if it wasn't inserted properly?
>
> >
> > Do not unplug / plug in keyboards at run time. It may still happen that
> this
> > can blow an internal motherboard fuse or worse, there is no fuse there
any
> > longer. (This used to be a problem, I don't know if it still is).
> >
> Never have/would. Thanks.
>
> > You say the keyboard is an "Elite". Is this a bluetooth keyboard? If it
is
> > the story may be different.... as I have the "Microsoft Wireless Natural
> > Multimedia keyboard" and am using that to describe everything..
> >
> Elite is not Bluetooth. it's wireless 105keys, with tilt-wheel on the
left.
> Lots of multimedia buttons too.
>
> > HTH
> > - Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:c8kacc$de0$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > Funy you should mention earthing, when I was disconnecting each
> component
> > > piece-by-poece, the audio Jack touched the metal at the rear of the PC
> > > (Whilst it was off) and it buzzes the speakers. Also, when I very
first
> > > log
> > > onto my screen name, right after the windows start-up sound has
finished
> > > playing, there is a little crackle from the speakers (Creative
I-Trigue
> > > 2.1).
> > >
> > > I accept that a bad earth could cause problems, but wouldn't this
affect
> > > wired & wireless alike?
> > >
> > > Just another thought.
> > >
> > > Nik.
> > >
> > > "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c8jmfm$s69$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.
> > >>
> > >> 1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try
> someone
> > >> elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already
> and
> > > see
> > >> if it works.
> > >>
> > >> This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with
keyboard,
> or
> > >> problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at
the
> > > PS/2
> > >> connector so you can't rule this out.
> > >>
> > >> Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since
> last
> > >> year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near
> their
> > > end
> > >> of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original
> wireless
> > >> devices.
> > >>
> > >> - Tim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > >> > Hi
> > >> >
> > >> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > >> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > >> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > >> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > >> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > >> > Windows XP Home
> > >> >
> > >> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
> > >> > (optical
> > >> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> > >> >
> > >> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> > >> > connection
> > >> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> > >> >
> > >> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
> > >> > boot.
> > >> > It
> > >> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send
> video
> > >> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> > > switch
> > >> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> > >> >
> > >> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > >> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > >> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > >> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B,
> power
> > >> > down,
> > >> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt
ONLY.
> > >> >
> > >> > A very bizarre problem!
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved
> it!
> > >> >
> > >> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
> > >> >
> > >> > Nik.
> > >> >
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