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May 20, 2004 3:51:18 PM

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Hi

I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
P4 3.2ghz HT
512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
Windows XP Home

I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers

The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2 connection
to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.

When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot. It
powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not switch
it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)

If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power down,
reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.

A very bizarre problem!

I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!

Any advice on this greatly appreciated!

Nik.

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Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 3:51:19 PM

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"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Hi
>
> I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> P4 3.2ghz HT
> 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> Windows XP Home
>
> I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>
> The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
connection
> to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
>
> When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
It
> powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not switch
> it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)

A keyboard and mouse must be detected for the system to boot. I use the
Wireless MultiMedia model. Your kbd/mouse is not being properly detected.
Since it does run correctly using the reset, consider leaving the power on
at shutdown, and just using reset to start your system. (works fine for me
running W'98) Since your board has two ps/2 ports, try using the green
adapter plug that came with your unit. Some systems don't detect well using
the USB. Try running both keyboard and mouse on the ps/2 ports.

Go to system properties and see that the set is named properly...... if so
install new driver from your OS disc.

Replace the cheap batteries that came with the unit with new alkaline
batteries. Go to control panel and try the "add new hardware" utility to
see if you can get it to load a new keyboard driver. It's a MS unit, so I
would try to load drivers from your OS disc. Failing that, try to make a
new boot disc and see if you can get it to boot properly. If you can get
it to boot from a boot disc, I would remove the kbd/mouse from system/device
manager, and boot from the boot disc in the hope that it will detect it as
new hardware and load the correct driver set.

>
> If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
down,
> reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
>
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 5:05:08 PM

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Just a suggestion. Have you tried to update BIOS for a new version

"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Hi
>
> I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> P4 3.2ghz HT
> 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> Windows XP Home
>
> I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>
> The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
connection
> to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
>
> When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
It
> powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not switch
> it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>
> If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
down,
> reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
>
> A very bizarre problem!
>
> I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
>
> Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
>
> Nik.
>
> --
> =======================================================
> Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
> =======================================================
>
>
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Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 5:07:12 PM

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A mouse is not required for the bios to complete, and access the OS
partition.
"Pepperoni" <undeliverableaddy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >
> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> connection
> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >
> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> It
> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
switch
> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>
> A keyboard and mouse must be detected for the system to boot. I use the
> Wireless MultiMedia model. Your kbd/mouse is not being properly detected.
> Since it does run correctly using the reset, consider leaving the power on
> at shutdown, and just using reset to start your system. (works fine for
me
> running W'98) Since your board has two ps/2 ports, try using the green
> adapter plug that came with your unit. Some systems don't detect well
using
> the USB. Try running both keyboard and mouse on the ps/2 ports.
>
> Go to system properties and see that the set is named properly...... if
so
> install new driver from your OS disc.
>
> Replace the cheap batteries that came with the unit with new alkaline
> batteries. Go to control panel and try the "add new hardware" utility to
> see if you can get it to load a new keyboard driver. It's a MS unit, so I
> would try to load drivers from your OS disc. Failing that, try to make a
> new boot disc and see if you can get it to boot properly. If you can get
> it to boot from a boot disc, I would remove the kbd/mouse from
system/device
> manager, and boot from the boot disc in the hope that it will detect it as
> new hardware and load the correct driver set.
>
> >
> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> down,
> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 5:58:03 PM

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As per the specs I posted "Latest BIOS"

Thanks anyway.

Nik.

"Kevin Haklar" <kjh@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:o G9dsKmPEHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Just a suggestion. Have you tried to update BIOS for a new version
>
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >
> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> connection
> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >
> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> It
> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
switch
> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> >
> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> down,
> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >
> > A very bizarre problem!
> >
> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
> >
> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Nik.
> >
> > --
> > =======================================================
> > Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
> > =======================================================
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 8:14:34 PM

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"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Hi
>
> I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> P4 3.2ghz HT
> 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> Windows XP Home
>
> I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>
> The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
connection
> to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
>
> When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
It
> powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not switch
> it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>
> If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
down,
> reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
>
> A very bizarre problem!
>
> I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
>
> Any advice on this greatly appreciated!

Have a look in the BIOS and see if "Legacy USB mouse/keyboad support"
(or similar) is enabled. Try it with both settings.
It could also be that your USB devices are taking too much power from the
USB bus - try disconnecting all USB devices other than mouse/keyboard.
If that's no help, I suggest you go through the steps that "Pepperoni"
suggests.
HTH
--
Rob
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 9:29:36 PM

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I've tried every combination of USB devices. Bottom line is, if the Keyboard
is attached, the system hangs. I've done it with JUST the keyboard attached,
it's PS2. Weird fault!!

Nik.

"Rob Hemmings" <SpamDaMan@nowhere.noway.con> wrote in message
news:c8ii0s$o36$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >
> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> connection
> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >
> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> It
> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
switch
> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> >
> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> down,
> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >
> > A very bizarre problem!
> >
> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
> >
> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
>
> Have a look in the BIOS and see if "Legacy USB mouse/keyboad support"
> (or similar) is enabled. Try it with both settings.
> It could also be that your USB devices are taking too much power from the
> USB bus - try disconnecting all USB devices other than mouse/keyboard.
> If that's no help, I suggest you go through the steps that "Pepperoni"
> suggests.
> HTH
> --
> Rob
>
>
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 10:27:28 PM

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Go into the Bios and disable Fast Booting. It should be fine then
"Pepperoni" <undeliverableaddy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >
> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> connection
> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >
> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> It
> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
switch
> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>
> A keyboard and mouse must be detected for the system to boot. I use the
> Wireless MultiMedia model. Your kbd/mouse is not being properly detected.
> Since it does run correctly using the reset, consider leaving the power on
> at shutdown, and just using reset to start your system. (works fine for
me
> running W'98) Since your board has two ps/2 ports, try using the green
> adapter plug that came with your unit. Some systems don't detect well
using
> the USB. Try running both keyboard and mouse on the ps/2 ports.
>
> Go to system properties and see that the set is named properly...... if
so
> install new driver from your OS disc.
>
> Replace the cheap batteries that came with the unit with new alkaline
> batteries. Go to control panel and try the "add new hardware" utility to
> see if you can get it to load a new keyboard driver. It's a MS unit, so I
> would try to load drivers from your OS disc. Failing that, try to make a
> new boot disc and see if you can get it to boot properly. If you can get
> it to boot from a boot disc, I would remove the kbd/mouse from
system/device
> manager, and boot from the boot disc in the hope that it will detect it as
> new hardware and load the correct driver set.
>
> >
> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> down,
> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
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May 20, 2004 10:46:17 PM

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FASTBOOT disabled, problem remains. I might try re-installing the drivers...

Nik

"n" <neal206(AT)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4U5rc.793$FV7.423@doctor.cableinet.net...
> Go into the Bios and disable Fast Booting. It should be fine then
> "Pepperoni" <undeliverableaddy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2h3oarF8qqdhU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > > Windows XP Home
> > >
> > > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
(optical
> > > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> > >
> > > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> > connection
> > > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> > >
> > > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
boot.
> > It
> > > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> switch
> > > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> >
> > A keyboard and mouse must be detected for the system to boot. I use the
> > Wireless MultiMedia model. Your kbd/mouse is not being properly
detected.
> > Since it does run correctly using the reset, consider leaving the power
on
> > at shutdown, and just using reset to start your system. (works fine for
> me
> > running W'98) Since your board has two ps/2 ports, try using the green
> > adapter plug that came with your unit. Some systems don't detect well
> using
> > the USB. Try running both keyboard and mouse on the ps/2 ports.
> >
> > Go to system properties and see that the set is named properly...... if
> so
> > install new driver from your OS disc.
> >
> > Replace the cheap batteries that came with the unit with new alkaline
> > batteries. Go to control panel and try the "add new hardware" utility
to
> > see if you can get it to load a new keyboard driver. It's a MS unit, so
I
> > would try to load drivers from your OS disc. Failing that, try to make
a
> > new boot disc and see if you can get it to boot properly. If you can
get
> > it to boot from a boot disc, I would remove the kbd/mouse from
> system/device
> > manager, and boot from the boot disc in the hope that it will detect it
as
> > new hardware and load the correct driver set.
> >
> > >
> > > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> > down,
> > > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 12:20:49 AM

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Tried Uninstalling the drivers, but I can't seem to get device manager to
recognise "Wireless Desktop Keyboard Elite" or "Wireless Intellimouse
explorer 2.0 with Tilt Wheel" - It says "standard 101/102-key....." and
"Microsoft USB Wireless mouse - Intellipoint"

Could this be an issue? They both seem to work ok. It used to say "Wireless
USB hub..." under the keyboard settings, I can't seem to get that back!

Anymore advice???

Thanks again

Nik.

"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> FASTBOOT disabled, problem remains. I might try re-installing the
drivers...
>
> Nik
>
> "n" <neal206(AT)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4U5rc.793$FV7.423@doctor.cableinet.net...
> > Go into the Bios and disable Fast Booting. It should be fine then
> > "Pepperoni" <undeliverableaddy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2h3oarF8qqdhU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > > > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > > > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > > > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > > > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > > > Windows XP Home
> > > >
> > > > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
> (optical
> > > > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> > > >
> > > > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> > > connection
> > > > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> > > >
> > > > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
> boot.
> > > It
> > > > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send
video
> > > > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> > switch
> > > > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> > >
> > > A keyboard and mouse must be detected for the system to boot. I use
the
> > > Wireless MultiMedia model. Your kbd/mouse is not being properly
> detected.
> > > Since it does run correctly using the reset, consider leaving the
power
> on
> > > at shutdown, and just using reset to start your system. (works fine
for
> > me
> > > running W'98) Since your board has two ps/2 ports, try using the
green
> > > adapter plug that came with your unit. Some systems don't detect well
> > using
> > > the USB. Try running both keyboard and mouse on the ps/2 ports.
> > >
> > > Go to system properties and see that the set is named properly......
if
> > so
> > > install new driver from your OS disc.
> > >
> > > Replace the cheap batteries that came with the unit with new alkaline
> > > batteries. Go to control panel and try the "add new hardware" utility
> to
> > > see if you can get it to load a new keyboard driver. It's a MS unit,
so
> I
> > > would try to load drivers from your OS disc. Failing that, try to
make
> a
> > > new boot disc and see if you can get it to boot properly. If you can
> get
> > > it to boot from a boot disc, I would remove the kbd/mouse from
> > system/device
> > > manager, and boot from the boot disc in the hope that it will detect
it
> as
> > > new hardware and load the correct driver set.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > > > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > > > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > > > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B,
power
> > > down,
> > > > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt
ONLY.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 12:35:43 AM

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In article <c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com>,
nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com says...
> Hi
>
> I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> P4 3.2ghz HT
> 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> Windows XP Home
>
> I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers

Wireless keyboards and mice are nothing but trouble, avoid them.

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Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 12:35:44 AM

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Hmmm....guess we had better tell the tens of thousands of people using them
every day that they are nothing but trouble and to avoid them....

Bobby

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b16e0af307690ce98a557@news-server.columbus.rr.com.
>>

>
> Wireless keyboards and mice are nothing but trouble, avoid them.
>
Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 1:40:08 AM

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I've just paid £100 for these. I am determined to get them working, this a
Microsoft+Asus issue (Pretty big names!) I'm sure Mr ASUS has met with Mr
GATES at some point and there must be a way of working round it!!

;-)

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b16e0af307690ce98a557@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> In article <c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com>,
> nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com says...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>
> Wireless keyboards and mice are nothing but trouble, avoid them.
>
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> --
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> (Remove 999 to reply to me)
Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 1:40:09 AM

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I think you were robbed. My MS wireless MM kbd/mouse was $54 with free
shipping.

I like them. only problem is the mouse batteries need replacing about once
a month.



"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I've just paid £100 for these. I am determined to get them working, this a
> Microsoft+Asus issue (Pretty big names!) I'm sure Mr ASUS has met with Mr
> GATES at some point and there must be a way of working round it!!
>
> ;-)
>
Anonymous
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a b V Motherboard
May 21, 2004 6:01:28 AM

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In article <#Gp7ytsPEHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
nospam_bjsledge@pixi.com says...
> Hmmm....guess we had better tell the tens of thousands of people using them
> every day that they are nothing but trouble and to avoid them....
>
> Bobby
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b16e0af307690ce98a557@news-server.columbus.rr.com.
> >>
>
> >
> > Wireless keyboards and mice are nothing but trouble, avoid them.

Like everything there are two sides. In most cases I find people trying
to use IR or Radio type keyboards that call to report problems with
their systems/mouse/keyboard more frequently than people with wired
keyboards/mice.

I had one chap that got wireless everything and had no end to problems.
Once we got rid of the logitec wireless keyboard life got easy. It's not
always the keyboard, it can be the drivers, and often is.

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Hi,

I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.

1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try someone
elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already and see
if it works.

This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with keyboard, or
problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at the PS/2
connector so you can't rule this out.

Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since last
year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near their end
of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original wireless
devices.

- Tim


"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Hi
>
> I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> P4 3.2ghz HT
> 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> Windows XP Home
>
> I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>
> The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> connection
> to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
>
> When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> It
> powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not switch
> it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>
> If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> down,
> reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
>
> A very bizarre problem!
>
> I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
>
> Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
>
> Nik.
>
> --
> =======================================================
> Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
> =======================================================
>
>
Anonymous
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May 21, 2004 5:36:35 PM

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Funy you should mention earthing, when I was disconnecting each component
piece-by-poece, the audio Jack touched the metal at the rear of the PC
(Whilst it was off) and it buzzes the speakers. Also, when I very first log
onto my screen name, right after the windows start-up sound has finished
playing, there is a little crackle from the speakers (Creative I-Trigue
2.1).

I accept that a bad earth could cause problems, but wouldn't this affect
wired & wireless alike?

Just another thought.

Nik.

"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:c8jmfm$s69$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi,
>
> I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.
>
> 1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try someone
> elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already and
see
> if it works.
>
> This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with keyboard, or
> problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at the
PS/2
> connector so you can't rule this out.
>
> Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since last
> year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near their
end
> of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original wireless
> devices.
>
> - Tim
>
>
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > Windows XP Home
> >
> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft (optical
> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >
> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> > connection
> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >
> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not boot.
> > It
> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
switch
> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> >
> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
> > down,
> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >
> > A very bizarre problem!
> >
> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
> >
> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Nik.
> >
> > --
> > =======================================================
> > Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
> > =======================================================
> >
> >
>
>
May 22, 2004 1:08:12 AM

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Nic,

Please try and answer the questions below. Someone may be able to point 100%
at the cause if you do...

There are several things you could do to check earthing problems that
include checking the resistance between the earth plug on the mains cable
and the chassis on the PC - this should be zero ohms. Another is to check
the mounting of the PCB in the case. Cases have light metal flanges aroung
each IO socket on the rear. These are supposed to touch the socket mounted
on the mobo. They are there to stop EFI / RFI leakage. Also check that the
mobo has been mounted correctly. Most usually metal posts are supplied and
they provide earth conduction to the motherboard.

If you did not have the correct chassis plate (IE none as some people have)
and a problem with the earth and .... a the keyboards USB cable plugged into
a self powered hub then... all sorts of things could go wrong. Earth is
there to protect things when things go wrong, so if there is no earth or
partial earth then small amounts of current can go all over the place.
Recently Paul stated something about PSU's pumping out a small flow to earth
being 'normal'.

Have you tried the keyboard on another PC yet?
Have you tried another one of these keyboards you know is working from
another PC on your PC?

When you plug in the keyboard, plug the keyboard directly into the PS/2 slot
& plug the USB mouse connector into the PS/2 style adapter (green) into the
adjacent Mouse port. Do *not* run the mouse through an intermediate USB hub.
The keyboard socket is always in the corner towards the edge of the PC. Is
this correct? If in doubt, pull the mouse out. If in doubt pull out *all*
USB stuff & external peripherals until this problem is solved.

Check the keyboard plug does insert correctly. On several occasions I have
had plugs and adapters (like the green one) where the plastic is too far
down the sleeve to allow the plug to go in far enough - this is in part due
to the case. Checked?

Do not unplug / plug in keyboards at run time. It may still happen that this
can blow an internal motherboard fuse or worse, there is no fuse there any
longer. (This used to be a problem, I don't know if it still is).

You say the keyboard is an "Elite". Is this a bluetooth keyboard? If it is
the story may be different.... as I have the "Microsoft Wireless Natural
Multimedia keyboard" and am using that to describe everything..

HTH
- Tim




"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8kacc$de0$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> Funy you should mention earthing, when I was disconnecting each component
> piece-by-poece, the audio Jack touched the metal at the rear of the PC
> (Whilst it was off) and it buzzes the speakers. Also, when I very first
> log
> onto my screen name, right after the windows start-up sound has finished
> playing, there is a little crackle from the speakers (Creative I-Trigue
> 2.1).
>
> I accept that a bad earth could cause problems, but wouldn't this affect
> wired & wireless alike?
>
> Just another thought.
>
> Nik.
>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:c8jmfm$s69$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.
>>
>> 1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try someone
>> elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already and
> see
>> if it works.
>>
>> This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with keyboard, or
>> problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at the
> PS/2
>> connector so you can't rule this out.
>>
>> Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since last
>> year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near their
> end
>> of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original wireless
>> devices.
>>
>> - Tim
>>
>>
>> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
>> > P4 3.2ghz HT
>> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
>> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
>> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
>> > Windows XP Home
>> >
>> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
>> > (optical
>> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
>> >
>> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
>> > connection
>> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
>> >
>> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
>> > boot.
>> > It
>> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send video
>> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> switch
>> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
>> >
>> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
>> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
>> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
>> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B, power
>> > down,
>> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
>> >
>> > A very bizarre problem!
>> >
>> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved it!
>> >
>> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
>> >
>> > Nik.
>> >
>> > --
>> > =======================================================
>> > Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
>> > =======================================================
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
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a b V Motherboard
May 22, 2004 1:08:13 AM

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Note replies........

"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:c8kgug$jlh$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Nic,
>
> Please try and answer the questions below. Someone may be able to point
100%
> at the cause if you do...
>
> There are several things you could do to check earthing problems that
> include checking the resistance between the earth plug on the mains cable
> and the chassis on the PC - this should be zero ohms. Another is to check
> the mounting of the PCB in the case. Cases have light metal flanges aroung
> each IO socket on the rear. These are supposed to touch the socket mounted
> on the mobo. They are there to stop EFI / RFI leakage. Also check that the
> mobo has been mounted correctly. Most usually metal posts are supplied and
> they provide earth conduction to the motherboard.
>
I have no way of checking resistance! Sorry, not that technical.

> If you did not have the correct chassis plate (IE none as some people
have)
> and a problem with the earth and .... a the keyboards USB cable plugged
into
> a self powered hub then... all sorts of things could go wrong. Earth is
> there to protect things when things go wrong, so if there is no earth or
> partial earth then small amounts of current can go all over the place.
> Recently Paul stated something about PSU's pumping out a small flow to
earth
> being 'normal'.
>
It's a MESH PLC computer. I bought the K/B separately. I cost a small
fortune and looks very well put together.

> Have you tried the keyboard on another PC yet?
> Have you tried another one of these keyboards you know is working from
> another PC on your PC?
>
No other pC to try the K/B on, don't know anyone with this type of K/B


> When you plug in the keyboard, plug the keyboard directly into the PS/2
slot
> & plug the USB mouse connector into the PS/2 style adapter (green) into
the
> adjacent Mouse port. Do *not* run the mouse through an intermediate USB
hub.
> The keyboard socket is always in the corner towards the edge of the PC. Is
> this correct? If in doubt, pull the mouse out. If in doubt pull out *all*
> USB stuff & external peripherals until this problem is solved.

All peripheral disconnected and all combinations tried. The K/B is in the
correct socket, the mouse is in USB (But I've tried it in PS/2 and it works
ok, but doesn't solve the problem) No hub is being used. The system only
hangs when this k/b is connected to the PS/2 socket, regardless of any other
combination of peripherals.
>
> Check the keyboard plug does insert correctly. On several occasions I have
> had plugs and adapters (like the green one) where the plastic is too far
> down the sleeve to allow the plug to go in far enough - this is in part
due
> to the case. Checked?

It must be in correctly, I've pushed it right in, and all I need to do is
press the reset button on the machine, and it works fine. I assume this
wouldn't be the case if it wasn't inserted properly?

>
> Do not unplug / plug in keyboards at run time. It may still happen that
this
> can blow an internal motherboard fuse or worse, there is no fuse there any
> longer. (This used to be a problem, I don't know if it still is).
>
Never have/would. Thanks.

> You say the keyboard is an "Elite". Is this a bluetooth keyboard? If it is
> the story may be different.... as I have the "Microsoft Wireless Natural
> Multimedia keyboard" and am using that to describe everything..
>
Elite is not Bluetooth. it's wireless 105keys, with tilt-wheel on the left.
Lots of multimedia buttons too.

> HTH
> - Tim
>
>
>
>
> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:c8kacc$de0$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Funy you should mention earthing, when I was disconnecting each
component
> > piece-by-poece, the audio Jack touched the metal at the rear of the PC
> > (Whilst it was off) and it buzzes the speakers. Also, when I very first
> > log
> > onto my screen name, right after the windows start-up sound has finished
> > playing, there is a little crackle from the speakers (Creative I-Trigue
> > 2.1).
> >
> > I accept that a bad earth could cause problems, but wouldn't this affect
> > wired & wireless alike?
> >
> > Just another thought.
> >
> > Nik.
> >
> > "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> > news:c8jmfm$s69$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.
> >>
> >> 1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try
someone
> >> elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already
and
> > see
> >> if it works.
> >>
> >> This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with keyboard,
or
> >> problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at the
> > PS/2
> >> connector so you can't rule this out.
> >>
> >> Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since
last
> >> year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near
their
> > end
> >> of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original
wireless
> >> devices.
> >>
> >> - Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> >> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> >> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> >> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> >> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> >> > Windows XP Home
> >> >
> >> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
> >> > (optical
> >> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> >> >
> >> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> >> > connection
> >> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> >> >
> >> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
> >> > boot.
> >> > It
> >> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send
video
> >> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> > switch
> >> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> >> >
> >> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> >> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> >> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> >> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B,
power
> >> > down,
> >> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt ONLY.
> >> >
> >> > A very bizarre problem!
> >> >
> >> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved
it!
> >> >
> >> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
> >> >
> >> > Nik.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > =======================================================
> >> > Remove S P A M K I L L From my Email address to reply to me Directly
> >> > =======================================================
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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May 22, 2004 1:08:14 AM

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Thanks for all your ideas. It wasn't til I read a review for the Logitech
Desktop MX Keyboard & mouse, written by a guy who had the EXACT same problem
as me, that I realised I was maybe on a loser! He was told by Microsoft that
it was an unsolveable problem, and they swapped it. Second one did the same.
He bought Logitech, perfecto!

I've sent the Keyboard back, the dealer has given me a full refund (Thanks
AMAZON, great service - even refunded my postage)

I've tried my neighbours wireless KB and it's perfect. I've added the
original KB that came with the PC (Logitech) and the PC starts first time,
every time. Good riddance Microsoft "Not-so-Elite" Keyboard ;-)

Cheers

Nik.

"Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c8khu8$q1b$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> Note replies........
>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:c8kgug$jlh$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Nic,
> >
> > Please try and answer the questions below. Someone may be able to point
> 100%
> > at the cause if you do...
> >
> > There are several things you could do to check earthing problems that
> > include checking the resistance between the earth plug on the mains
cable
> > and the chassis on the PC - this should be zero ohms. Another is to
check
> > the mounting of the PCB in the case. Cases have light metal flanges
aroung
> > each IO socket on the rear. These are supposed to touch the socket
mounted
> > on the mobo. They are there to stop EFI / RFI leakage. Also check that
the
> > mobo has been mounted correctly. Most usually metal posts are supplied
and
> > they provide earth conduction to the motherboard.
> >
> I have no way of checking resistance! Sorry, not that technical.
>
> > If you did not have the correct chassis plate (IE none as some people
> have)
> > and a problem with the earth and .... a the keyboards USB cable plugged
> into
> > a self powered hub then... all sorts of things could go wrong. Earth is
> > there to protect things when things go wrong, so if there is no earth or
> > partial earth then small amounts of current can go all over the place.
> > Recently Paul stated something about PSU's pumping out a small flow to
> earth
> > being 'normal'.
> >
> It's a MESH PLC computer. I bought the K/B separately. I cost a small
> fortune and looks very well put together.
>
> > Have you tried the keyboard on another PC yet?
> > Have you tried another one of these keyboards you know is working from
> > another PC on your PC?
> >
> No other pC to try the K/B on, don't know anyone with this type of K/B
>
>
> > When you plug in the keyboard, plug the keyboard directly into the PS/2
> slot
> > & plug the USB mouse connector into the PS/2 style adapter (green) into
> the
> > adjacent Mouse port. Do *not* run the mouse through an intermediate USB
> hub.
> > The keyboard socket is always in the corner towards the edge of the PC.
Is
> > this correct? If in doubt, pull the mouse out. If in doubt pull out
*all*
> > USB stuff & external peripherals until this problem is solved.
>
> All peripheral disconnected and all combinations tried. The K/B is in the
> correct socket, the mouse is in USB (But I've tried it in PS/2 and it
works
> ok, but doesn't solve the problem) No hub is being used. The system only
> hangs when this k/b is connected to the PS/2 socket, regardless of any
other
> combination of peripherals.
> >
> > Check the keyboard plug does insert correctly. On several occasions I
have
> > had plugs and adapters (like the green one) where the plastic is too far
> > down the sleeve to allow the plug to go in far enough - this is in part
> due
> > to the case. Checked?
>
> It must be in correctly, I've pushed it right in, and all I need to do is
> press the reset button on the machine, and it works fine. I assume this
> wouldn't be the case if it wasn't inserted properly?
>
> >
> > Do not unplug / plug in keyboards at run time. It may still happen that
> this
> > can blow an internal motherboard fuse or worse, there is no fuse there
any
> > longer. (This used to be a problem, I don't know if it still is).
> >
> Never have/would. Thanks.
>
> > You say the keyboard is an "Elite". Is this a bluetooth keyboard? If it
is
> > the story may be different.... as I have the "Microsoft Wireless Natural
> > Multimedia keyboard" and am using that to describe everything..
> >
> Elite is not Bluetooth. it's wireless 105keys, with tilt-wheel on the
left.
> Lots of multimedia buttons too.
>
> > HTH
> > - Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:c8kacc$de0$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > Funy you should mention earthing, when I was disconnecting each
> component
> > > piece-by-poece, the audio Jack touched the metal at the rear of the PC
> > > (Whilst it was off) and it buzzes the speakers. Also, when I very
first
> > > log
> > > onto my screen name, right after the windows start-up sound has
finished
> > > playing, there is a little crackle from the speakers (Creative
I-Trigue
> > > 2.1).
> > >
> > > I accept that a bad earth could cause problems, but wouldn't this
affect
> > > wired & wireless alike?
> > >
> > > Just another thought.
> > >
> > > Nik.
> > >
> > > "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c8jmfm$s69$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I have one of these & I know others that do too - no problems at all.
> > >>
> > >> 1st step: ascertain if there is a fault with your keyboard - try
> someone
> > >> elses on your machine & / or try yours on a machine with one already
> and
> > > see
> > >> if it works.
> > >>
> > >> This will actually tell you a couple of things: problem with
keyboard,
> or
> > >> problem with system. I have read of mobos with earthing problems at
the
> > > PS/2
> > >> connector so you can't rule this out.
> > >>
> > >> Batteries? They're fine - been runnnig on one set of batteries since
> last
> > >> year - work all day every day. The batteries are NMH that are near
> their
> > > end
> > >> of life. Battery life is substantially better than the original
> wireless
> > >> devices.
> > >>
> > >> - Tim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Walmsley's" <nik.walmsleySPAMKILL@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:c8i63l$e7q$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > >> > Hi
> > >> >
> > >> > I've got a brand new PC (pre-built):-
> > >> > P4 3.2ghz HT
> > >> > 512mb ddr 400mhz RAM
> > >> > Asus P4P800SE Mo/Bo (Latest BIOS)
> > >> > 200GB S-ATA Maxtor Drive
> > >> > Windows XP Home
> > >> >
> > >> > I've connected a new Wireless Keyboard and mouse from Microsoft
> > >> > (optical
> > >> > wireless desktop Elite) - LATEST drivers
> > >> >
> > >> > The Wireless hub has 2 cables running from it. 1 is for the PS/2
> > >> > connection
> > >> > to the PC, the other is USB for the mouse.
> > >> >
> > >> > When I connect the Keyboard to the PS/2 socket the system will not
> > >> > boot.
> > >> > It
> > >> > powers up, and the H/D light flickers away, but it will not send
> video
> > >> > signal to the Monitor, and pressing the power button again does not
> > > switch
> > >> > it off (I have to hold it for the 4 secs to power down.)
> > >> >
> > >> > If I hit the reset button, the whole thing fires up fine,
> > >> > If I connect a different Keyboard to the PS/2 it fires up fine.
> > >> > I've tried changing the wireless channel and this has no effect.
> > >> > If I disconnect the wireless K/B, power up with a different K/B,
> power
> > >> > down,
> > >> > reconnect the Wireless K/B, it fires up OK on the FIRST attempt
ONLY.
> > >> >
> > >> > A very bizarre problem!
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm hoping someone else out there has had this problem, and solved
> it!
> > >> >
> > >> > Any advice on this greatly appreciated!
> > >> >
> > >> > Nik.
> > >> >
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