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HP DeskJet 5652 vs HP InkJet 1100D

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April 18, 2004 2:38:26 AM

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Hi,

I'm thinking about buying either the HP DeskJet 5652 or the HP
Business InkJet 1100D. Both printers have duplex which is attractive.

I doubt that I would be printing much colour, and probably no
photographs.

The DJ5652 is the smaller of the two, and the cheaper. However the
IJ1100D has individual print cartridges and each cartridge has a
much higher yield. By my calculations, based on current Australian
prices, the IJ1100D becomes cheaper a bit after 2600 pages (see the
table below).

I would expect to print around 1500 pages per year.

Would anyone have any comments on either printer, their reliabiliy,
quality of print and performance? I'm also interested in how they
print grey. I understand that some printers use the colour
cartridges to print grey, others use the black and dither (much like
a laser printer). I'm guesing that the latter would be much more
economical - does anyone know which way either printer does it? Does
anyone have any recommendations on which printer to buy?

HP also assumes 5% page coverage when providing page yield for a
print cartridge. How realistic is this? Does anyone know what a the
coverage would be on a typical full A4 or letter page of text?

I am using Windows XP but may share it out so I can print from Linux
and Solaris.

A quick spreadsheet I did up came up with the following costs of
ownership:
Cost
-----------
Pages 5652 1100D
1000 285 345
2000 351 394
3000 417 394
4000 516 394
5000 582 394
6000 648 443
7000 714 443
8000 813 443
9000 879 499
10000 945 548
11000 1011 548
12000 1110 548
13000 1176 548
April 18, 2004 2:38:27 AM

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I use an 1100d and am happy with the quality.

The separate ink cartridges are very handy but the chip in them isn't.
They make it harder to refill them. HP wants you to buy new cartridges
each time of course but I am having good luck with refilling. It just
means you have to stay on top of things more. When the ink gets low you
start to get warnings from the software. If you let the cartridge run
completely out the printer tells the cartridge chip that the cartridge
is empty and then you can no longer use it. However, as long as there
is ink flowing the printer continues to work albeit with the low ink
warning. However, the 1100d has something called MyPrintMileage so
that your usage is sent from the printer. The usage includes an
estimate of ink usage but so far my estimate appears fairly accurate.

What I do then is regularly monitor my ink usage. The printer comes
with three CMY #11 cartridges with 14mL of ink. As soon as your ink
usage nears 14mL remove the cartridge and get it refilled and then keep
doing that every time. What I did though is to buy a set of new
cartridges when the initial ones ran out. A new #11 cartridge comes
with 28 mL of ink yet it cost me the same (CDN$18.69) to refill the
lower quantity as the higher so over time it's more cost effective to
get the 28 mL cartrdge refilled.

If you don't want the hassle of having to monitor the ink usage you can
buy extra chips and a chip resetter. I found a very reasonably priced
source in the Netherlands. All you do is reset the chip and replace it
which is a very easy procedure.

Good luck.

G
Anonymous
a b α HP
April 23, 2004 7:31:04 PM

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<bill-no-spam@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:408140de$0$16577$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au...
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about buying either the HP DeskJet 5652 or the HP
> Business InkJet 1100D. Both printers have duplex which is attractive.
>
> I doubt that I would be printing much colour, and probably no
> photographs.

> Would anyone have any comments on either printer, their reliabiliy,
> quality of print and performance? I'm also interested in how they
> print grey. I understand that some printers use the colour
> cartridges to print grey, others use the black and dither (much like
> a laser printer). I'm guesing that the latter would be much more
> economical - does anyone know which way either printer does it?

I do not know much about the 1100D, but I know that the Deskjet 5652 has an
option in the driver to print color as grayscale, and also allows printing in
grayscale using the black cartridge only. The 5652 would be better for
photo's as it provides six ink printing (with the optional #58 photo cartrdige)
and full edge to edge photo printing, but these features would not matter in
your application.

> HP also assumes 5% page coverage when providing page yield for a
> print cartridge. How realistic is this? Does anyone know what a the
> coverage would be on a typical full A4 or letter page of text?

Although 5% sounds like just a little, it really looks like a lot on a text
page. There is a standard IDC test page for 5%, which unfortunately I cannot
find on the web. It is basically a full page of text with a bar graph embedded
in it, and looking at it you would think it is more than 5%. If you are
printing web pages with graphics embedded the coverage will probably be more
like 10-20%, with 5% more typical of text only pages.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
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