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Will A7N8X Deluxe ver 1.03 Work With Barton 3200+?

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Anonymous
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June 9, 2004 6:33:51 AM

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I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166 fsb) to
a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb). My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03. I'm already using
Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is supported from
PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from using it. The chart
also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible from 1.04 up, and I haven't
had any problems with it other than the occasional verbal message that my
system failed memory test, but starts up fine anyway! Any ideas or
experiences?

Dirk
Anonymous
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June 9, 2004 11:18:31 AM

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"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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> I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166 fsb)
to
> a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb). My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03. I'm already using
> Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is supported
from
> PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from using it. The chart
> also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible from 1.04 up, and I
haven't
> had any problems with it other than the occasional verbal message that my
> system failed memory test, but starts up fine anyway! Any ideas or
> experiences?
>
> Dirk
>
>

Have you got the latest BIOS?

Mine is rev 1.04 (with the 1007 BIOS) and won't reach 200FSB with a Barton
2500-Mobile. If I had a Barton 3200 and 200FSB was still not attainable,
then I reckon I would have a case for RMAing the board.
--
Doug Ramage
Anonymous
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June 9, 2004 12:18:55 PM

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"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:jGuxc.66602$DG4.23184@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166 fsb)
to
> a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb). My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03. I'm already using
> Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is supported
from
> PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from using it. The chart
> also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible from 1.04 up, and I
haven't
> had any problems with it other than the occasional verbal message that my
> system failed memory test, but starts up fine anyway! Any ideas or
> experiences?
>
> Dirk


My first board was a 1.xx (I think 1.02 or 1.01, not sure sorry) and it
could hit the 200fsb mark..
Wondering if you can adjust the multiplier of your current chip.. if you can
then you could run it at 200 speeds!
I think the 2600+ is 11.5 * 166 so if you could knock that down to 11 and
run it @ 200 then you would have a 3200+..
Given how the 2500+'s will go up to a 220mhz fsb MAX for some people then I
would say (if your up for it and have good cooling) to try turning your fsb
up to that 200mhz mark (In steps mind ya) to see if the cpu can cope with
it. If ur chip goes to 200fsb AND the multi stays the same then it would be
faster than a 3200+ :) 
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Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 12:34:38 AM

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Dirk Gross wrote:
> I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166 fsb)
> to a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb).

I'd first have a go at overclocking your existing chip. A Tbred B will
often do 2.2GHz with the right cooling and voltage.

> My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03.

Damn thats an old one :-)

> I'm already
> using Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is
> supported from PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from
> using it. The chart also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible
> from 1.04 up, and I haven't had any problems with it other than the
> occasional verbal message that my system failed memory test, but starts
> up fine anyway! Any ideas or experiences?


That message is VERY common. Working or not.

Your default multiplier is 12.5 - this is good, 'cos you can easily change
it down to maybe 10 (unless it's locked - not likely). Then you can slowly
up your FSB and see what you can do.

I would expect at least 180MHz FSB out of your motherboard, probably 190MHz.
One you have that working, you can try upping the multiplier (slowly) to
achieve around 2.2GHz.

Ben
--
A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 12:51:46 AM

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Well, I changed my settings from the stock 12.5 @ 166 (2075) to 10.5 @ 200
(2100) just to see if it will take it, and it's working OK so far. I'll run
it this way for awhile and play some games to stress it a bit. Otherwise,
it seems to like 200 MHz. I'm not too interested in remaining overclocked.
I've trashed operating systems that way & I'm more interested in stability
now than seeing how far it will go before something breaks.

Dirk

"Ben Pope" <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2ip71hFpkpjmU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Dirk Gross wrote:
> > I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166 fsb)
> > to a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb).
>
> I'd first have a go at overclocking your existing chip. A Tbred B will
> often do 2.2GHz with the right cooling and voltage.
>
> > My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03.
>
> Damn thats an old one :-)
>
> > I'm already
> > using Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is
> > supported from PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from
> > using it. The chart also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible
> > from 1.04 up, and I haven't had any problems with it other than the
> > occasional verbal message that my system failed memory test, but starts
> > up fine anyway! Any ideas or experiences?
>
>
> That message is VERY common. Working or not.
>
> Your default multiplier is 12.5 - this is good, 'cos you can easily change
> it down to maybe 10 (unless it's locked - not likely). Then you can
slowly
> up your FSB and see what you can do.
>
> I would expect at least 180MHz FSB out of your motherboard, probably
190MHz.
> One you have that working, you can try upping the multiplier (slowly) to
> achieve around 2.2GHz.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
> I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
>
>
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 2:25:58 AM

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Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until the
machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in the
future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the 64-bit
stuff got cheaper.

Dirk

"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:CLKxc.8184$ih7.784@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Well, I changed my settings from the stock 12.5 @ 166 (2075) to 10.5 @ 200
> (2100) just to see if it will take it, and it's working OK so far. I'll
run
> it this way for awhile and play some games to stress it a bit. Otherwise,
> it seems to like 200 MHz. I'm not too interested in remaining
overclocked.
> I've trashed operating systems that way & I'm more interested in stability
> now than seeing how far it will go before something breaks.
>
> Dirk
>
> "Ben Pope" <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2ip71hFpkpjmU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Dirk Gross wrote:
> > > I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166
fsb)
> > > to a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb).
> >
> > I'd first have a go at overclocking your existing chip. A Tbred B will
> > often do 2.2GHz with the right cooling and voltage.
> >
> > > My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03.
> >
> > Damn thats an old one :-)
> >
> > > I'm already
> > > using Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is
> > > supported from PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from
> > > using it. The chart also says my 2600+ (166) is also only compatible
> > > from 1.04 up, and I haven't had any problems with it other than the
> > > occasional verbal message that my system failed memory test, but
starts
> > > up fine anyway! Any ideas or experiences?
> >
> >
> > That message is VERY common. Working or not.
> >
> > Your default multiplier is 12.5 - this is good, 'cos you can easily
change
> > it down to maybe 10 (unless it's locked - not likely). Then you can
> slowly
> > up your FSB and see what you can do.
> >
> > I would expect at least 180MHz FSB out of your motherboard, probably
> 190MHz.
> > One you have that working, you can try upping the multiplier (slowly) to
> > achieve around 2.2GHz.
> >
> > Ben
> > --
> > A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> > Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
> > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 12:11:52 PM

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Did you lock the AGP at 66Mhz?
--
Doug Ramage

"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:W7Mxc.25355$Oa7.6841@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until the
> machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in the
> future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the 64-bit
> stuff got cheaper.
>
> Dirk
>
> "Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:CLKxc.8184$ih7.784@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > Well, I changed my settings from the stock 12.5 @ 166 (2075) to 10.5 @
200
> > (2100) just to see if it will take it, and it's working OK so far. I'll
> run
> > it this way for awhile and play some games to stress it a bit.
Otherwise,
> > it seems to like 200 MHz. I'm not too interested in remaining
> overclocked.
> > I've trashed operating systems that way & I'm more interested in
stability
> > now than seeing how far it will go before something breaks.
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> > "Ben Pope" <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2ip71hFpkpjmU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Dirk Gross wrote:
> > > > I'm thinking of upgrading my cpu from the Thoroughbred B 2600+ (166
> fsb)
> > > > to a Barton 3200+ (200 fsb).
> > >
> > > I'd first have a go at overclocking your existing chip. A Tbred B
will
> > > often do 2.2GHz with the right cooling and voltage.
> > >
> > > > My A7N8X Deluxe is PCB 1.03.
> > >
> > > Damn thats an old one :-)
> > >
> > > > I'm already
> > > > using Corsair 3200 memory. According to Asus, the Barton 3200+ is
> > > > supported from PCB 1.04 up, so I'm not sure if that prevemts me from
> > > > using it. The chart also says my 2600+ (166) is also only
compatible
> > > > from 1.04 up, and I haven't had any problems with it other than the
> > > > occasional verbal message that my system failed memory test, but
> starts
> > > > up fine anyway! Any ideas or experiences?
> > >
> > >
> > > That message is VERY common. Working or not.
> > >
> > > Your default multiplier is 12.5 - this is good, 'cos you can easily
> change
> > > it down to maybe 10 (unless it's locked - not likely). Then you can
> > slowly
> > > up your FSB and see what you can do.
> > >
> > > I would expect at least 180MHz FSB out of your motherboard, probably
> > 190MHz.
> > > One you have that working, you can try upping the multiplier (slowly)
to
> > > achieve around 2.2GHz.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > > --
> > > A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> > > Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
> > > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 1:35:42 PM

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"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:W7Mxc.25355$Oa7.6841@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until the
> machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in the
> future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the 64-bit
> stuff got cheaper.
>
> Dirk


A reply to both of your previous post..
Firstly "Overclocking" will do no damage to the operating system.
Second is that this board WILL do 200mhz. The Video card IS NOT directly
tied to that setting.
This board (it's bios/firmware) allows you to set the videocard FSB DIRECTLY
itself.

As a guess i'll say that it's POSSIBLE your pushing your ram too far. Try
relaxing the ram settings and see if things will work better. If you get a
new motherboard JUST to get more speed and use the same componets you have
now then you are likely to see the same problems (as I feel it's not the
board, but rather the settings)
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 2:20:10 PM

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I had the AGP to AUTO, and I changed it to 66 MHz. Also, I dropped mem
settings from 5-2-2-2t at 166 to 6-3-3-2t at 200. The memory is Corsair
3200 XMS c2, so it should be able to handle 200 MHz. It still crashes with
the screen just going black. I checked my manual, and it says the board is
200 MHz capable. But then even they admit by their cpu compatibility chart
versions 1.03 or earlier won't do any processor with 200 MHz. I almost
think they owe me a version 1.04 board or else it was false advertising.
Future 200 MHz capability is a major reason why I bought this board and why
I spent the extra bucks for good 3200 memory.

Dirk

"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote in message
news:1XVxc.54$3X3.52@newsfe1-win...
>
> "Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:W7Mxc.25355$Oa7.6841@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until
the
> > machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in
the
> > future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the
64-bit
> > stuff got cheaper.
> >
> > Dirk
>
>
> A reply to both of your previous post..
> Firstly "Overclocking" will do no damage to the operating system.
> Second is that this board WILL do 200mhz. The Video card IS NOT directly
> tied to that setting.
> This board (it's bios/firmware) allows you to set the videocard FSB
DIRECTLY
> itself.
>
> As a guess i'll say that it's POSSIBLE your pushing your ram too far. Try
> relaxing the ram settings and see if things will work better. If you get
a
> new motherboard JUST to get more speed and use the same componets you have
> now then you are likely to see the same problems (as I feel it's not the
> board, but rather the settings)
>
>
Anonymous
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June 10, 2004 4:02:03 PM

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I don't think your memory is on the Asus approved list. Also, Asus state
that pre rev. 2.0 boards will do 200 FSB with a BIOS upgrade.
--
Doug Ramage

"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:uBWxc.27682$Oa7.4736@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> I had the AGP to AUTO, and I changed it to 66 MHz. Also, I dropped mem
> settings from 5-2-2-2t at 166 to 6-3-3-2t at 200. The memory is Corsair
> 3200 XMS c2, so it should be able to handle 200 MHz. It still crashes
with
> the screen just going black. I checked my manual, and it says the board
is
> 200 MHz capable. But then even they admit by their cpu compatibility
chart
> versions 1.03 or earlier won't do any processor with 200 MHz. I almost
> think they owe me a version 1.04 board or else it was false advertising.
> Future 200 MHz capability is a major reason why I bought this board and
why
> I spent the extra bucks for good 3200 memory.
>
> Dirk
>
> "rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:1XVxc.54$3X3.52@newsfe1-win...
> >
> > "Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:W7Mxc.25355$Oa7.6841@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > > Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until
> the
> > > machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in
> the
> > > future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the
> 64-bit
> > > stuff got cheaper.
> > >
> > > Dirk
> >
> >
> > A reply to both of your previous post..
> > Firstly "Overclocking" will do no damage to the operating system.
> > Second is that this board WILL do 200mhz. The Video card IS NOT
directly
> > tied to that setting.
> > This board (it's bios/firmware) allows you to set the videocard FSB
> DIRECTLY
> > itself.
> >
> > As a guess i'll say that it's POSSIBLE your pushing your ram too far.
Try
> > relaxing the ram settings and see if things will work better. If you
get
> a
> > new motherboard JUST to get more speed and use the same componets you
have
> > now then you are likely to see the same problems (as I feel it's not the
> > board, but rather the settings)
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
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June 11, 2004 12:33:08 AM

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Dirk Gross wrote:
> "Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:CLKxc.8184$ih7.784@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
>> Well, I changed my settings from the stock 12.5 @ 166 (2075) to 10.5 @
>> 200 (2100) just to see if it will take it, and it's working OK so far.
>> I'll run it this way for awhile and play some games to stress it a bit.
>> Otherwise, it seems to like 200 MHz. I'm not too interested in
>> remaining overclocked. I've trashed operating systems that way & I'm
>> more interested in stability now than seeing how far it will go before
>> something breaks.
>
> Failure at 200 MHz. Video card (ATI 9700 Pro) gives GPU crashes until the
> machine locks up solid. I guess no upgrade for this motherboard is in the
> future. I was hoping to get a little more life out of it until the 64-bit
> stuff got cheaper.

Hmm, thats an odd one. You sure it's the GPU? If so, try setting the AGP
bus to 66MHz.

To test stability, run your FSB at 166MHz, and the RAM at 200MHz, then use
memtest86 to check your RAM. Once you know thats stable, set your FSB to
200MHz and test using Prime95 Torture Test to ensure CPU stability.

You can only trash an operating system with unstable settings, a stable,
overclocked machine will be fine. The above tools will help you determine
stability.

Ben
--
A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
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Anonymous
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June 11, 2004 1:52:52 PM

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"Doug Ramage" <namxat666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2iqtd3FpucbhU1@uni-berlin.de...
> I don't think your memory is on the Asus approved list. Also, Asus state
> that pre rev. 2.0 boards will do 200 FSB with a BIOS upgrade.
> --
> Doug Ramage
>

You beat me to this ;P ..

But yea, their charts he's seeing might not list the processors, but the
website clearly says that a bios upgrade is required for all of their 1.xx
boards
Anonymous
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June 12, 2004 3:09:52 AM

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There's not much memory on the approved list. I imagine there are a lot
more that will work than what they bothered to test. And, when I bought it,
there was no such list. I'm using the latest bios, 1007. As Ben suggested,
I kept the fsb at 166 but set memory to 200 and ran Memtest86, which it
passed. If anything irks me, it's that the board was marketed as 200 MHz
capable on the ads, the box, and the manual, but now they say you need at
least version 1.04 to run 200 MHz. I can work around this, I'm going to
swap in my MSI Delta-L with NV2 Ultra 400 in place of my A7N8X Deluxe.

I don't hold a company responsible to support processors that haven't been
released yet, especially if they don't claim to. But this board was
marketed to run 200 MHz, I bought it for that purpose, and the official
documentation from Asus now says that early versions don't do it (at least
not reliably enough that they want to post it as such). I don't mean this
to be a rant against Asus. I've owned a lot of'em and will in the future.
But doggone it, if they say it runs 200 MHz fsb it ought to do it or it's a
defective design...

Dirk

"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote in message
news:D gfyc.16$Qw3.11@newsfe5-win...
>
> "Doug Ramage" <namxat666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2iqtd3FpucbhU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I don't think your memory is on the Asus approved list. Also, Asus state
> > that pre rev. 2.0 boards will do 200 FSB with a BIOS upgrade.
> > --
> > Doug Ramage
> >
>
> You beat me to this ;P ..
>
> But yea, their charts he's seeing might not list the processors, but the
> website clearly says that a bios upgrade is required for all of their 1.xx
> boards
>
>
Anonymous
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June 12, 2004 7:31:20 AM

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"Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
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> There's not much memory on the approved list. I imagine there are a lot
> more that will work than what they bothered to test. And, when I bought
it,
> there was no such list. I'm using the latest bios, 1007. As Ben
suggested,
> I kept the fsb at 166 but set memory to 200 and ran Memtest86, which it
> passed. If anything irks me, it's that the board was marketed as 200 MHz
> capable on the ads, the box, and the manual, but now they say you need at
> least version 1.04 to run 200 MHz. I can work around this, I'm going to
> swap in my MSI Delta-L with NV2 Ultra 400 in place of my A7N8X Deluxe.
>
> I don't hold a company responsible to support processors that haven't been
> released yet, especially if they don't claim to. But this board was
> marketed to run 200 MHz, I bought it for that purpose, and the official
> documentation from Asus now says that early versions don't do it (at least
> not reliably enough that they want to post it as such). I don't mean this
> to be a rant against Asus. I've owned a lot of'em and will in the future.
> But doggone it, if they say it runs 200 MHz fsb it ought to do it or it's
a
> defective design...
>
> Dirk

Sorry dirk
please please please go look at the web page..

OverView-
"Starting from PCB version 2.0, The A7N8X Deluxe motherboard supports Front
Side Bus (FSB) 400. The users of PCB 1.06 or earlier version can update
their motherboard BIOS to get FSB 400 support. The PCB (Printed Circuit
Board) version is located beside the motherboard name printed on the
motherboard. . PCB 2.0 BIOS version or later are not compatible with PCB
1.06 or earlier BIOS versions. "

Specification-
"FSB 400* / 333 / 266 / 200 MHz
( * PCB 1.06 or earlier version need BIOS update )"

http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7N8X%20Deluxe

It is possible.. MAYBEE when your turning the multi down the system isnt
really seeing that (check with cpuid or even look at the raw numbers) and
that would mean that 200 x 11.5 (the 2600+ chip) could be pusing it a
little.

personally, I bought ram that was listed and I found that I have never had
any isue with overclocking with my 1.xx board or 2.xx board
Anonymous
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June 12, 2004 2:00:57 PM

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"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dirk Gross" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:4Zqyc.79076$DG4.41615@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > There's not much memory on the approved list. I imagine there are a lot
> > more that will work than what they bothered to test. And, when I bought
> it,
> > there was no such list. I'm using the latest bios, 1007. As Ben
> suggested,
> > I kept the fsb at 166 but set memory to 200 and ran Memtest86, which it
> > passed. If anything irks me, it's that the board was marketed as 200
MHz
> > capable on the ads, the box, and the manual, but now they say you need
at
> > least version 1.04 to run 200 MHz. I can work around this, I'm going to
> > swap in my MSI Delta-L with NV2 Ultra 400 in place of my A7N8X Deluxe.
> >
> > I don't hold a company responsible to support processors that haven't
been
> > released yet, especially if they don't claim to. But this board was
> > marketed to run 200 MHz, I bought it for that purpose, and the official
> > documentation from Asus now says that early versions don't do it (at
least
> > not reliably enough that they want to post it as such). I don't mean
this
> > to be a rant against Asus. I've owned a lot of'em and will in the
future.
> > But doggone it, if they say it runs 200 MHz fsb it ought to do it or
it's
> a
> > defective design...
> >
> > Dirk
>
> Sorry dirk
> please please please go look at the web page..
>
> OverView-
> "Starting from PCB version 2.0, The A7N8X Deluxe motherboard supports
Front
> Side Bus (FSB) 400. The users of PCB 1.06 or earlier version can update
> their motherboard BIOS to get FSB 400 support. The PCB (Printed Circuit
> Board) version is located beside the motherboard name printed on the
> motherboard. . PCB 2.0 BIOS version or later are not compatible with PCB
> 1.06 or earlier BIOS versions. "
>
> Specification-
> "FSB 400* / 333 / 266 / 200 MHz
> ( * PCB 1.06 or earlier version need BIOS update )"
>
> http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7N8X%20Deluxe
>
> It is possible.. MAYBEE when your turning the multi down the system isnt
> really seeing that (check with cpuid or even look at the raw numbers) and
> that would mean that 200 x 11.5 (the 2600+ chip) could be pusing it a
> little.
>
> personally, I bought ram that was listed and I found that I have never had
> any isue with overclocking with my 1.xx board or 2.xx board
>

As already posted, my rev. 1.04 board (with latest 1007 BIOS) does not reach
200 FSB. I don't want to buy an XP3200 to find that it still does not reach
200FSB. But I would have cause to complain as the XP3200 is a 200FSB cpu.

I have bought a DFI LanParty which has, reputedly, better overclocking
capability.
--
Doug Ramage
Anonymous
a b } Memory
a b V Motherboard
June 12, 2004 7:33:18 PM

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>
> Sorry dirk
> please please please go look at the web page..
>
> OverView-
> "Starting from PCB version 2.0, The A7N8X Deluxe motherboard supports
Front
> Side Bus (FSB) 400. The users of PCB 1.06 or earlier version can update
> their motherboard BIOS to get FSB 400 support. The PCB (Printed Circuit
> Board) version is located beside the motherboard name printed on the
> motherboard. . PCB 2.0 BIOS version or later are not compatible with PCB
> 1.06 or earlier BIOS versions. "
>
> Specification-
> "FSB 400* / 333 / 266 / 200 MHz
> ( * PCB 1.06 or earlier version need BIOS update )"
>
> http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7N8X%20Deluxe
>
> It is possible.. MAYBEE when your turning the multi down the system isnt
> really seeing that (check with cpuid or even look at the raw numbers) and
> that would mean that 200 x 11.5 (the 2600+ chip) could be pusing it a
> little.
>
> personally, I bought ram that was listed and I found that I have never had
> any isue with overclocking with my 1.xx board or 2.xx board
>
>
>
>

Actually, I have been to the web site. That's where I found this:
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.as...
And this:
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/faq/qanda.aspx?KB_ID=844...
which both imply that ver. 1.03 and earlier don't qualify for 400 MHz cpu's.
Apparently they will only state for the record that 1.04 to 1.06 can be made
to work with bios updates. For all I know, mine will run a 400 MHz cpu.
The memory test seemed to work OK at 200 MHZ with a 166 fsb. My problems
might have been because I was overclocking the cpu (11x200 instead of the
normal 12.5x166). But since cpus can't be returned, I didn't want to drop
$200 on a Barton 3200 and find out it doesn't work. Anyway, I solved the
problem by swapping the A7N8X Deluxe into my kid's computer, and put their
MSI K7N2 Delta (w/NF2 Ultra 400) into mine. Now, it's set to run 400MHz for
certain. By the way, the MB swap went flawlessly. Windows XP booted right
up, rearranged it's drivers, rebooted, and back to normal. No reinstall or
even a need to slide in a driver disk. Sometimes your plans DO go off
without a hitch. Or, Murphy was asleep late this morning ;-)

Dirk
!