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June 2, 2004 12:16:12 AM

Can someone please offer some insite and experience on a good racing wheel with pedals? I'm playing TOCA 2 and my gamepad is not cutting the mustard.
So if anyone has some ideas on good wheels, you advice would be greatly appreciated.

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June 2, 2004 4:48:33 AM

Thrustmaster makes a great wheel and pedals and is built like a tank.

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June 2, 2004 6:44:08 PM

I have a Thrustmaster Force Feedback racing wheel, and I don't have any complains about it. I can't tell you if its better than other wheels since it is the only one I really tried. But I would recommend it.

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June 2, 2004 7:35:47 PM

I heard the logitech momo is a really good wheel. I think I'm going to get one of those when summer rolls around but I want to find pedals that have a clutch, I need the real Nascar experience :smile: .

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June 3, 2004 7:09:50 AM

I have Logitech wheel and pedals for PS2, really nice and responsive toy.

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June 3, 2004 2:56:39 PM

<A HREF="http://www.act-labs.com" target="_new">Act-Labs</A> discontinued their racing system/wheel but they still sell their pedals (w/ clutch) and their shift kits.

I've never tried any of the products but I've been impressed with Act-Labs' apparent build quality and their apparent commitment to providing support and replacement parts. (From their online catalog you can see that you can purchase just about every piece of each product they sell).

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June 3, 2004 9:32:37 PM

nice, I think all racing wheels should come with clutch and shift kits ;) 
June 3, 2004 10:00:23 PM

Yeah but at least we can now add them later. In the old gameport days you were pretty much stuck with whatever came with the wheel.

I've seen some decent wheels over years but sometimes the pedals were plastic things that move all over the place, terrible. I never saw any great pedals come to think of it. I wonder how good the Act-Labs pedals really are.


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June 4, 2004 2:50:53 PM

Well, i couldn't find a Thrustmaster locally in stores(only online), and the Momo was sold out at BestBuy so i went to Circuit city and bought the Saitek R440 and all i can say is that i have to learn how to play the game all over again.
I cant steer the car for crap because if i start to lose controll and correct myself, it just starts getting out of controll worse. Cant keep the damn car straight. And i have no clue what the saturation and dead zone crap is...............

Well, i just messed with it again and no matter what the hell i do, the car just keeps oversteering. I feel like im a drunk driver tryin to drive straight. Just aint happenin. Im takin this piece of crap back!!!

Thanks for all the input, its greatly appreciated.

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June 5, 2004 1:15:41 AM

Can't really help. Don't have the game or that wheel.

Deadzone is kind of like steering "play" in a real car. When the wheel is centered you can turn it a small amount without actually turning the tires.

Sometimes game wheels aren't precisely calibrated and when the steering wheel is centered the car steers a little one way or the other when it should be going straight. Deadzone makes the game ignore small adjustments near center and forces the car to go straight. The larger the deadzone the wider adjustments the game ignores.

I don't know what saturation (unless it's the same as sensitivity).

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June 7, 2004 8:08:41 PM

Saturation is the amount you have to turn for the controller to say: turn at maximum.

Lets say that when the wheel is at its dead center we say it is a 0 degree. Lets assume that you can only turn the wheel a quarter of a turn left or right. Therefore, the full range of the wheel is -90 degrees to 90 degrees. If you put a smaller saturation, lets say 80 degrees, you will only have to turn the wheel 80 degrees to the left or right to turn at the same rate as you would have if you would have turn the wheel 90 degrees with no saturation. The extra 10 degrees are then useless.

In the end, saturation maps a smaller turning angle to a bigger one.

I hope it's clear...

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June 8, 2004 3:49:13 PM

That makes a lot of sense now, thanks a bunch, but i still cant steer for crap with this saitek r440
Im gonna try a wheel that has auto centering when you let go of the wheel.
Thanks again, ill keep you posted.

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June 8, 2004 5:36:40 PM

might be your game. some games dont support analoge steering. that is, you move the wheel a little and its the same as pressing a keyboard button.

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June 29, 2004 12:00:13 AM

been a while but i've tried different wheels and couldnt drive for crap. So i finished the game with a gamepad. Thanks all.

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July 9, 2004 4:33:15 AM

The Momo is very nice, and there are of course some expensive ones out there, but I like the Cheap Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2. I like the two types of shifters and pretty much have had no problems with it in 8+ racing games I have tried. I bought 5 of these wheels over time at Compusa in the $25-$40 range and they have given my buddies and me some fun LAN racing.

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Just don't buy the original Nascar Pro digital. I have one of those also and it has a bit of play in it and the drivers are harder to load with Win XP. The Pro digital 2 is a snap and doesn't have that dead spot in the middle making it hard to steer straight.


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