Upgrading Asus As7-vm mobo

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I want to upgrade my Asus AS7-VM motherboard. It currently has an
Athlon 1GHz processor. According to Asus it will take up to a 1.4GHz
Athlon or 900 MHz Duron, I don't see why there is a difference in CPU
speed.

I checked the local computer store and it is only possible to get
Duron processors, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz. Will a 1.4 GHz Duron buy me much
over a 1 GHz Athlon given the smaller on-board cache?

The Duron is a much later design, so will presumable generate less
heat.

I also wonder if I can run one of the higher speed Durons in this
mobo? The Asus doc only mentions 1.4GHz but maybe that is because
faster processors were not available at the time.

The Athlon XP processor doesn't seem to be any good due to the faster
FSB speed (266 MHz as opposed to 133MHz).

tia
David

 

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On 25 Jun 2004 03:47:49 -0700, david.off@voila.fr (David Off) wrote:

>I want to upgrade my Asus AS7-VM motherboard. It currently has an
>Athlon 1GHz processor. According to Asus it will take up to a 1.4GHz
>Athlon or 900 MHz Duron, I don't see why there is a difference in CPU
>speed.
>

Your motherboard takes just the socalled fsb200 cpu's. They are rare
now.

>I checked the local computer store and it is only possible to get
>Duron processors, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz. Will a 1.4 GHz Duron buy me much
>over a 1 GHz Athlon given the smaller on-board cache?
>

These newer durons are all fsb266. They won't fit the bios of your
motherboard.

>The Duron is a much later design, so will presumable generate less
>heat.
>
>I also wonder if I can run one of the higher speed Durons in this
>mobo? The Asus doc only mentions 1.4GHz but maybe that is because
>faster processors were not available at the time.
>
>The Athlon XP processor doesn't seem to be any good due to the faster
>FSB speed (266 MHz as opposed to 133MHz).

266=2x133 that is the secret of it. Fsb200=2x100 and so on for fsb333
and 400.

My advice would be: don't upgrade it.

Sell the computer for 200 $ or so, excl. monitor but including the
rest.

Because: you have the following components that are outdated or
obsolete: sdram, harddisk, sound, net

Modern motherboards have mostly nice sound onboard and LAN and a new
big cache ide harddisk with 7200 rpm will mean a tremendeous
improvement, as will DDR ram.

best regards

John

 

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"David Off" <david.off@voila.fr> wrote in message
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> I want to upgrade my Asus AS7-VM motherboard. It currently has an
> Athlon 1GHz processor. According to Asus it will take up to a 1.4GHz
> Athlon or 900 MHz Duron, I don't see why there is a difference in CPU
> speed.
>
> I checked the local computer store and it is only possible to get
> Duron processors, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz. Will a 1.4 GHz Duron buy me much
> over a 1 GHz Athlon given the smaller on-board cache?
>
> The Duron is a much later design, so will presumable generate less
> heat.
>
> I also wonder if I can run one of the higher speed Durons in this
> mobo? The Asus doc only mentions 1.4GHz but maybe that is because
> faster processors were not available at the time.
>
> The Athlon XP processor doesn't seem to be any good due to the faster
> FSB speed (266 MHz as opposed to 133MHz).
>
> tia
> David


the chips are 100 / 133 / 166 / 200 fsb (thats all)
if you see a chip that's quoted as having 266 fsb then it's going to work
with a 133 fsb.
like the other poster said, your limited to 100fsb so you could go the path
of buying a mobile processor and running it at 15 x 100 (but you might have
trouble with that too)
I would think the newer durons (applebreds) are lock'd internally now (as
with all non mobile AXP chips) but if that 1.4 applebred runs at 10.5 x 133
then you would have a 1050 duron on startup.

I dont know what you'll pay for the conversion cost (wish the uk would go to
the euro)
but here is a mobile that should do that 15x100
http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=416

Good luck in what ever you decide

 

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"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "David Off" <david.off@voila.fr> wrote in message
> news:de30ee00.0406250247.61ca45d0@posting.google.com...
> > I want to upgrade my Asus AS7-VM motherboard. It currently has an
> > Athlon 1GHz processor. According to Asus it will take up to a 1.4GHz
> > Athlon or 900 MHz Duron, I don't see why there is a difference in CPU
> > speed.
> >
> > I checked the local computer store and it is only possible to get
> > Duron processors, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz. Will a 1.4 GHz Duron buy me much
> > over a 1 GHz Athlon given the smaller on-board cache?
> >
> > The Duron is a much later design, so will presumable generate less
> > heat.
> >
> > I also wonder if I can run one of the higher speed Durons in this
> > mobo? The Asus doc only mentions 1.4GHz but maybe that is because
> > faster processors were not available at the time.
> >
> > The Athlon XP processor doesn't seem to be any good due to the faster
> > FSB speed (266 MHz as opposed to 133MHz).
> >
> > tia
> > David
>
>
> the chips are 100 / 133 / 166 / 200 fsb (thats all)
> if you see a chip that's quoted as having 266 fsb then it's going to work
> with a 133 fsb.
> like the other poster said, your limited to 100fsb so you could go the
path
> of buying a mobile processor and running it at 15 x 100 (but you might
have
> trouble with that too)
> I would think the newer durons (applebreds) are lock'd internally now (as
> with all non mobile AXP chips) but if that 1.4 applebred runs at 10.5 x
133
> then you would have a 1050 duron on startup.
>
> I dont know what you'll pay for the conversion cost (wish the uk would go
to
> the euro)
> but here is a mobile that should do that 15x100
> http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=416
>
> Good luck in what ever you decide
>
>

Been looking into this for some time as I have an old Gigabyte 7AJA (KT133)
board
with a Duron 800 I would like to breathe some new life into cheaply while
keeping the
512MB of ECC PC133 memory and an ATI AIW AGP2 TV card so new mobo
not really an option.

Being unable to find a 200FSB processor, an XP2400 (15x133) underclocked
seems
fine. The mobo says 'unknown processor' but runs quite happily (& cool)
at 1.5GHz (15x100). Norton benchmarks about 4x as fast as the Duron 800
and it certainly performs better.

Processor is locked otherwise I assume I could run it at a higher clock
ratio
whilst still being in spec.

Chris K

 

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:31:24 +0100, CJK wrote:

> Been looking into this for some time as I have an old Gigabyte 7AJA
> (KT133) board with a Duron 800 I would like to breathe some new life
> into cheaply while keeping the 512MB of ECC PC133 memory and an ATI AIW
> AGP2 TV card so new mobo not really an option.
>
> Being unable to find a 200FSB processor, an XP2400 (15x133) underclocked
> seems fine. The mobo says 'unknown processor' but runs quite happily (&
> cool) at 1.5GHz (15x100). Norton benchmarks about 4x as fast as the
> Duron 800 and it certainly performs better.
>
> Processor is locked otherwise I assume I could run it at a higher clock
> ratio whilst still being in spec.
>
Don't know if your board will let you adjust FSB or not, but if it does,
you can raise the FSB up to about 116Mhz for more core speed. At least
that what I could get out of my KT133 systems. That's another 240MHz. You
could go a lot higher with an unlocked one. See below.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

 

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"Wes Newell" <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:31:24 +0100, CJK wrote:
>
> > Been looking into this for some time as I have an old Gigabyte 7AJA
> > (KT133) board with a Duron 800 I would like to breathe some new life
> > into cheaply while keeping the 512MB of ECC PC133 memory and an ATI AIW
> > AGP2 TV card so new mobo not really an option.
> >
> > Being unable to find a 200FSB processor, an XP2400 (15x133) underclocked
> > seems fine. The mobo says 'unknown processor' but runs quite happily (&
> > cool) at 1.5GHz (15x100). Norton benchmarks about 4x as fast as the
> > Duron 800 and it certainly performs better.
> >
> > Processor is locked otherwise I assume I could run it at a higher clock
> > ratio whilst still being in spec.
> >
> Don't know if your board will let you adjust FSB or not, but if it does,
> you can raise the FSB up to about 116Mhz for more core speed. At least
> that what I could get out of my KT133 systems. That's another 240MHz. You
> could go a lot higher with an unlocked one. See below.
>
> --
> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

Thanks, I was intending to try that though I'd rather not risk stability for
small speed gains,
not sure how the 5 year old Graphics card would like the PCI bus speed
increase. 3/4x
improvement is OK for now.

Going to 24x100FSB would be good as it is not really overclocking but I
assume
that, as the processor is date coded only a few weeks ago, it cannot be
easily
unlocked.

Chris K (UK)

 

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:16:58 +0100, CJK wrote:

> Going to 24x100FSB would be good as it is not really overclocking but I
> assume that, as the processor is date coded only a few weeks ago, it
> cannot be easily unlocked.
>
2400MHz is way overclocked for the 2100+ below which normal speed is
1733MHz. The default speed of the 2400+ is only 2000MHz. There's a mod to
turn the locked cpu's into a mobile and then use software to adjust the
multiplier, but I haven't had the need nor the desire to do rthis as it
involes a lot of mod to the cpu bridges and there's some buts in too. Your
best option would be to find an older Tbred B core cpu that isn't locked
(ebay maybe). Or you could buy a new MP. They are still unlocked, but
expensive. A new mobile should work too, as they are not locked I'm told.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm