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Paul,
The issues you describe are characteristic of not doing a repair when one is
needed.
Bob,
Don't give up.
Take the cloned drive, bung it in the new machine, but don't boot off it.
Check your bios is set to boot off CD insert the XP setup CD and boot from
that.
Follow the instructions re: repair.
If you have any doubt about which drivers if any to install during repair,
feed any drivers in via F6 - thats what it is for. If the repair does not
need the drivers it will eventually ignore them and nothing untoward will
happen. (During install it inspects hardware and part of the plug and play
process is marrying up the devices with the drivers - if you supply an extra
driver or 200 it does not matter).
The repair re-runs the plug and play setup for the XP system & rebuilds the
registry settings for hardware. It also replaces all XP system files with
those off CD so if you have an nasty virus this is one possible way to get
rid of it (or disc corruptions, lost files, damage in general). Many virus
are too smart for this unfortunately.
Because the issue files off the XP CD are reinstalled, any service packs
that were present will revert to the level of the CD (IE some CD's have SP1
on already so the repair ends up with SP1). You will need to reapply service
packs (OK so there is only 1 at the moment, but SP2 is due soon) all
critical and other updates from Windows Update. Also since all hardware is
freshly discovered you will have to install motherboard and other drivers as
though this were a new system - check device manager.
The easiest way to get your system up to date is to use Windows Update but
this has the danger that while you are installing critical patches your
system is not protected against the exploits of the very things being fixed,
so if possible download the critical updates to a CD separately or prio to
this - try and use a hardware firewall if you have one.
Bob, there is something called the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard
(Start, Run, migwiz.exe). This program will package up many of the items you
mentioned above for movement to a new computer: favourites, email, settings,
My Documents etc, preferences, bags of stuff, but not application patches or
data. If you use disc cloning s/w and a Repair install then this is not
needed.
I always maintain a downloads folder that I archive to CD that contains
shareware / software I have downloaded and or purchased from the net. I keep
it arranged so that I can re-install each app quickly - I also include
things like license keys in .txt files where needed and many other things
with the install programs so that they are complete.
If you image the drive to the new machine then Follow these instructions and
if you have any troubles at all feel free to post back - you have a nice
simple regression step of simply not proceeding, so really there is from
what you say no risk at all. On the license issue, you have 90 days to
activate anyway so don't fret about running 2 XP's for a short while....
- Tim
"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-3006040006040001@192.168.1.177...
> In article <Zd2dnRsd8KbxqH_dUSdV9g@ptd.net>, "Bob Petruska"
> <petruska@mail.microserve.net> wrote:
>
>> Tim you are correct in quoting me on that , but now I'm changing my
>> comment
>> to it's impossible to start from scratch.
>>
>> I cloned my current hard drive last night and that will be the drive for
>> my
>> mb changeover testing. I also placed another clean drive in my current
>> system, installed WinXP and then started to load applications. I was
>> into
>> to this for about an hour when I realized that it is impossible to find
>> all
>> the patches, tweaks, configurations, log-on cookies, serial numbers, plus
>> save my favorites, address books, newgroups, re-register all my
>> listservers,
>> hyperlinks, what applications and disks did I obtain all those fonts from
>> that I use in my pubs, my zillion data files peppered in old
>> applications,
>> plus the old apps that were download install only, etc, etc.
>>
>> I will definitely junk my K8V, Athalon 64 and keep my lowly A7V is I
>> can't
>> make the old drive change. I currently have a flawlessly running system
>> that doesn't hangs or crash and it still has roots back to DOS 3.1on the
>> hard drive as I continually updated over the years. I just want some
>> speed
>> for faster DVD authoring.
>>
> I just completed a transition to a P4C800-E Deluxe. The one piece of
> advice that I found useful, was to make sure the Microsoft Standard IDE
> driver was installed while the disk was sitting in the old system. (This
> advice is for a PATA drive, but depending on whether the Southbridge on
> your board has remapping of SATA to the old I/O address and IRQ used
> by PATA, the move between systems could work if using a SATA drive
> transferred from operating on one Southbridge to another Southbridge.)
> On my old board, there was an Intel IDE driver sitting there, and I did
> a driver update, and was offered two alternatives, the Intel one and a
> Microsoft one. I took the standard Microsoft one.
>
> Like yourself, I used the clone method. First I tried booting with the
> clone, but got a blue screen and an "Inaccessable boot device". After
> returning the clone to the old system, changing the IDE driver to the
> Microsoft one, I was able to get the disk to boot on the new system.
> While I was using Win2K and not WinXP like yourself, I think it is
> still worth a shot.
>
> I tested my system before installing it in a case, and it is a lot
> easier to experiment with issues like this, if everything is just
> lying on a table. After I made reasonable progress booting, installing
> new video card drivers, playing a couple of games, then I moved to
> the installation phase. Doing that eliminates wasted effort stuffing
> all the goods into a case right away, only to find problems.
>
> The only problems I had with the install, were caused by the way that
> I did the original install on the old system. On my old system, Asus
> shipped several versions of BIOS with busted ACPI support, so I was
> forced to install with a standard PC HAL. That has dogged me to this
> day. I'm not sure you can go from Standard PC HAL to ACPI HAL without
> reinstalling. If your original install was in good shape, and has the
> right HAL to support your new hardware, I think you stand a good chance
> of making the transition. (One difference is, with WinXP, you might
> need to re-activate, whereas with Win2K, I didn't have to worry about
> that. That is the only reason I bought Win2K when I did.)
>
> HTH,
> Paul
>
>>
>>
>> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:cbt01q$lpl$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > Its about time you tried a repair insall yourself and overcame your
>> > fear
>> of
>> > them.
>> >
>> > To re-iterate: a fresh install is always desirable, but often it is not
>> > practial. If you re-read the OP's posting he says "It is almost
>> > impossible
>> > to start with a clean drive" .
>> >
>> > To the OP: I suggest you practice a little minimalism: install only the
>> > applications you need, know how to install them, know how to patch
>> > them,
>> > know how to configure them, document the process - perhaps do it one
>> > application at a time and overcome your current situation as if you
>> > lose a
>> > disc drive any time now you will be in the POO!
>> >
>> > - Tim
>> >
>> > "DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote in message
>> > news:lLmEc.1041$Oq2.553@attbi_s52...
>> > > If you change the motherboard on an XP based computer you MUST
>> > > reformat
>> > > the
>> > > harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS, or you will experience
>> ongoing
>> > > nasty Registry errors.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > DaveW
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Bob Petruska" <petruska@mail.microserve.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:ZEedndBv5YTqbn3dUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> > >> I would like to know if anyone was ever successful transferring a
>> Window
>> > > XP
>> > >> based hard drive with all applications to an K8V? I realize that
>> > >> transferring a HD under Windows 9x was a piece of cake, but read
>> > >> Google
>> > >> to
>> > >> death that the chances of the the blue screen of death on first boot
>> with
>> > >> new K8V board is most probable.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> It's almost impossible to start with a clean drive due to numerous
>> > >> apps
>> > >> tweaks, patches, etc over the years. I'm going from and AMD 1.4G on
>> > >> an
>> > > Asus
>> > >> A7V to AMD 64, 3000+ and K8V.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Any suggestions?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >