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Hi,

I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin RAM. With
the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building experience
went without a hitch.

I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about as "low
end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses the computer
for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using an old
Pentium system that's at least ten years old.

I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy drive, a
couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is a mobo,
CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the following:

ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
FSB: 533/400MHz
RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
Specifications:
Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
Core: Northwood
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 400MHz
Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
Voltage: 1.525V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
more info->
N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00

Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
Specification
Manufacturer: Mushkin
Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime
more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X AGP -BULK
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
Cable/Accessories: Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info-> N82E16814102215
$31.50 $31.50

For $242.50 plus tax, that seems like a very reasonable system (given I
already own so much of it).

Any thoughts? Do all the above components seem compatible? I checked the
specs on the ASUS site and to the degree I understand all these specs, I
think the mobo, CPU and RAM are all compatible.

Thank you!

John

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Follow-up to first post...

Perhaps this ASUS mobo with built-in video would be an even better choice:

ASUS "P4G800-V" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Celeron Processors
Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X,6x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xVGA,1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: AC97 Audio Codec
Onboard Video: Intel Extreme Graphics 2
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Onboard SATA: 2x Serial ATA
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131439 $91.00 $91.00

Any thoughts?

Again, thank you.

John

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Ermm.. if all shes going to do is basically word processing.. why are you
even considering getting something half decent? Just grab a 486. Done.

"John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:5YydnT_n_KxpWGDdRVn-rQ@lmi.net...
> Hi,
>
> I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin RAM.
With
> the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building experience
> went without a hitch.
>
> I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about as "low
> end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses the
computer
> for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using an old
> Pentium system that's at least ten years old.
>
> I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy drive, a
> couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is a mobo,
> CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the following:
>
> ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
> Specifications:
> Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
> Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
> FSB: 533/400MHz
> RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
> IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
> Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
> Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
> Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
> Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
> Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00
>
> Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
> Specifications:
> Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
> Core: Northwood
> Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
> FSB: 400MHz
> Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
> Voltage: 1.525V
> Process: 0.13Micron
> Socket: Socket 478
> Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
> Warranty: 3-year MFG
> Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
> more info->
> N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00
>
> Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
> Specification
> Manufacturer: Mushkin
> Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
> Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> Error Checking: Non-ECC
> Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
> Support Voltage: 2.5V
> Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
> Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
> Warranty: Lifetime
> more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00
>
> SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X
AGP -BULK
> Specifications:
> Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
> Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
> BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
> Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
> Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
> Cable/Accessories: Driver CD
> Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info-> N82E16814102215
> $31.50 $31.50
>
> For $242.50 plus tax, that seems like a very reasonable system (given I
> already own so much of it).
>
> Any thoughts? Do all the above components seem compatible? I checked the
> specs on the ASUS site and to the degree I understand all these specs, I
> think the mobo, CPU and RAM are all compatible.
>
> Thank you!
>
> John
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

That's more than horsepower. Better think more about ergonomics for a
"seasoned" user as well, meaning: good chair, large enough display, wrist
support for KB and mouse and remember to lock down the machine with AV,
anti-spyware and a good firewall. Having the security apps, as well as the
OS set to "auto-update" is a good idea as well.

This assumes that your mom isn't a savvy computer user, she may be but I
just offer it as generic advice for people who are building machines for
parents or other newbie's. A separate partition that holds an image of the
boot drive is also a handy thing.

"John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:yPSdnc1_UuVlWmDdRVn-uQ@lmi.net...
> Follow-up to first post...
>
> Perhaps this ASUS mobo with built-in video would be an even better choice:
>
> ASUS "P4G800-V" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
> Specifications:
> Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Celeron Processors
> Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
> FSB: 800/533/400MHz
> RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
> IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices
> Slots: 1x AGP 8X,6x PCI
> Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xVGA,1xLAN,Audio Ports
> Onboard Audio: AC97 Audio Codec
> Onboard Video: Intel Extreme Graphics 2
> Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
> Onboard SATA: 2x Serial ATA
> Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131439 $91.00 $91.00
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> John
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

An old P1 200, PII, or even something around 500Mhz would be more than
enough.
check out your local classified you should be able to find a complete system
for well under $200 that will do more than enough of what is required.

Who really cares about specs when it's basicly going to be used for quickin,
etc.





"Blaedmon" <ass@hell.com> wrote in message
news:cdkjqf$1lor$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Ermm.. if all shes going to do is basically word processing.. why are you
> even considering getting something half decent? Just grab a 486. Done.
>
> "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:5YydnT_n_KxpWGDdRVn-rQ@lmi.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin RAM.
> With
> > the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building
experience
> > went without a hitch.
> >
> > I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about as
"low
> > end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses the
> computer
> > for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using an old
> > Pentium system that's at least ten years old.
> >
> > I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy drive, a
> > couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is a
mobo,
> > CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the
following:
> >
> > ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
CPU -RETAIL
> > Specifications:
> > Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
> > Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
> > FSB: 533/400MHz
> > RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
> > IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
> > Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio
Ports
> > Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
> > Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
> > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00
> >
> > Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
> > Specifications:
> > Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
> > Core: Northwood
> > Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
> > FSB: 400MHz
> > Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
> > Voltage: 1.525V
> > Process: 0.13Micron
> > Socket: Socket 478
> > Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
> > Warranty: 3-year MFG
> > Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
> > more info->
> > N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00
> >
> > Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
> > Specification
> > Manufacturer: Mushkin
> > Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
> > Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> > Error Checking: Non-ECC
> > Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> > Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
> > Support Voltage: 2.5V
> > Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
> > Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
> > Warranty: Lifetime
> > more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00
> >
> > SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X
> AGP -BULK
> > Specifications:
> > Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
> > Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
> > BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
> > Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
> > Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
> > Cable/Accessories: Driver CD
> > Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info-> N82E16814102215
> > $31.50 $31.50
> >
> > For $242.50 plus tax, that seems like a very reasonable system (given I
> > already own so much of it).
> >
> > Any thoughts? Do all the above components seem compatible? I checked
the
> > specs on the ASUS site and to the degree I understand all these specs, I
> > think the mobo, CPU and RAM are all compatible.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Michael-NC,

That's all good advice. Thanks. My mom's setup isn't bad right now -- good
chair, monitor, wrist support, etc. As much as I try, I can't get her to
use the Internet or e-mail, so the AV stuff isn't as critical as it is for
you and me. The fact is, once I deliver the system, she is not likely to
connect to the Internet at all -- even for updates! And, she only has
dialup, so "always on" isn't an issue.

My mom is by no means a savvy computer user. We used to use pcAnywhere,
then VNC so I could connect to her computer and help her when she was stuck
with something (mostly in Quicken).

Blaedmon... you may be right that the system I described is over-kill for
the use. The current system is so old and slow that I thought a new system
would be nice, but a used P3 is cheap and would be just fine. I'll look
into that.

John


"Michael-NC" <NoAddress@desolate.com> wrote in message
news:rZkLc.143465$wH4.7743355@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> That's more than horsepower. Better think more about ergonomics for a
> "seasoned" user as well, meaning: good chair, large enough display, wrist
> support for KB and mouse and remember to lock down the machine with AV,
> anti-spyware and a good firewall. Having the security apps, as well as the
> OS set to "auto-update" is a good idea as well.
>
> This assumes that your mom isn't a savvy computer user, she may be but I
> just offer it as generic advice for people who are building machines for
> parents or other newbie's. A separate partition that holds an image of the
> boot drive is also a handy thing.
>
> "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:yPSdnc1_UuVlWmDdRVn-uQ@lmi.net...
> > Follow-up to first post...
> >
> > Perhaps this ASUS mobo with built-in video would be an even better
choice:
> >
> > ASUS "P4G800-V" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
CPU -RETAIL
> > Specifications:
> > Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Celeron Processors
> > Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
> > FSB: 800/533/400MHz
> > RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
> > IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > Slots: 1x AGP 8X,6x PCI
> > Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xVGA,1xLAN,Audio Ports
> > Onboard Audio: AC97 Audio Codec
> > Onboard Video: Intel Extreme Graphics 2
> > Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
> > Onboard SATA: 2x Serial ATA
> > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131439 $91.00 $91.00
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Again, thank you.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>

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_chris_

You guys are right. I feel a little dumb now for having made my original
post without first thinking it through. Sorry about that!

John



"_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3mlLc.19968$Gf7.740925@news20.bellglobal.com...
> An old P1 200, PII, or even something around 500Mhz would be more than
> enough.
> check out your local classified you should be able to find a complete
system
> for well under $200 that will do more than enough of what is required.
>
> Who really cares about specs when it's basicly going to be used for
quickin,
> etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Blaedmon" <ass@hell.com> wrote in message
> news:cdkjqf$1lor$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > Ermm.. if all shes going to do is basically word processing.. why are
you
> > even considering getting something half decent? Just grab a 486. Done.
> >
> > "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5YydnT_n_KxpWGDdRVn-rQ@lmi.net...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin RAM.
> > With
> > > the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building
> experience
> > > went without a hitch.
> > >
> > > I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about as
> "low
> > > end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses the
> > computer
> > > for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using an
old
> > > Pentium system that's at least ten years old.
> > >
> > > I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy drive,
a
> > > couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is a
> mobo,
> > > CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the
> following:
> > >
> > > ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
> CPU -RETAIL
> > > Specifications:
> > > Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
> > > Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
> > > FSB: 533/400MHz
> > > RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
> > > IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > > Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
> > > Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio
> Ports
> > > Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
> > > Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
> > > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00
> > >
> > > Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
> > > Specifications:
> > > Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
> > > Core: Northwood
> > > Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
> > > FSB: 400MHz
> > > Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
> > > Voltage: 1.525V
> > > Process: 0.13Micron
> > > Socket: Socket 478
> > > Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
> > > Warranty: 3-year MFG
> > > Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
> > > more info->
> > > N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00
> > >
> > > Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
> > > Specification
> > > Manufacturer: Mushkin
> > > Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
> > > Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> > > Error Checking: Non-ECC
> > > Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> > > Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
> > > Support Voltage: 2.5V
> > > Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
> > > Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
> > > Warranty: Lifetime
> > > more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00
> > >
> > > SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X
> > AGP -BULK
> > > Specifications:
> > > Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
> > > Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
> > > BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
> > > Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
> > > Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
> > > Cable/Accessories: Driver CD
> > > Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info-> N82E16814102215
> > > $31.50 $31.50
> > >
> > > For $242.50 plus tax, that seems like a very reasonable system (given
I
> > > already own so much of it).
> > >
> > > Any thoughts? Do all the above components seem compatible? I checked
> the
> > > specs on the ASUS site and to the degree I understand all these specs,
I
> > > think the mobo, CPU and RAM are all compatible.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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"John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:rNudnQYa_M2PemDdRVn-oA@lmi.net...
> _chris_
>
> You guys are right. I feel a little dumb now for having made my original
> post without first thinking it through. Sorry about that!
>
> John

Think again, your parts are only 240.00 dollars and you'd have a quality
machine. If your Mom does get on the internet, 200MHz machine is challenged
today. Besides, _you_ have to support that machine. Would you rather send
her something you built that has new parts and that you burned in or an old
clunker?


> "_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3mlLc.19968$Gf7.740925@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > An old P1 200, PII, or even something around 500Mhz would be more than
> > enough.
> > check out your local classified you should be able to find a complete
> system
> > for well under $200 that will do more than enough of what is required.
> >
> > Who really cares about specs when it's basicly going to be used for
> quickin,
> > etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Blaedmon" <ass@hell.com> wrote in message
> > news:cdkjqf$1lor$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > > Ermm.. if all shes going to do is basically word processing.. why are
> you
> > > even considering getting something half decent? Just grab a 486. Done.
> > >
> > > "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5YydnT_n_KxpWGDdRVn-rQ@lmi.net...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin
RAM.
> > > With
> > > > the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building
> > experience
> > > > went without a hitch.
> > > >
> > > > I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about as
> > "low
> > > > end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses the
> > > computer
> > > > for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using an
> old
> > > > Pentium system that's at least ten years old.
> > > >
> > > > I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy
drive,
> a
> > > > couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is a
> > mobo,
> > > > CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the
> > following:
> > > >
> > > > ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
> > CPU -RETAIL
> > > > Specifications:
> > > > Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
> > > > Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
> > > > FSB: 533/400MHz
> > > > RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
> > > > IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > > > Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
> > > > Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio
> > Ports
> > > > Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
> > > > Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
> > > > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00
> > > >
> > > > Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
> > > > Specifications:
> > > > Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
> > > > Core: Northwood
> > > > Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
> > > > FSB: 400MHz
> > > > Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
> > > > Voltage: 1.525V
> > > > Process: 0.13Micron
> > > > Socket: Socket 478
> > > > Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
> > > > Warranty: 3-year MFG
> > > > Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
> > > > more info->
> > > > N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00
> > > >
> > > > Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
> > > > Specification
> > > > Manufacturer: Mushkin
> > > > Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
> > > > Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> > > > Error Checking: Non-ECC
> > > > Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> > > > Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
> > > > Support Voltage: 2.5V
> > > > Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
> > > > Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
> > > > Warranty: Lifetime
> > > > more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00
> > > >
> > > > SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X
> > > AGP -BULK
> > > > Specifications:
> > > > Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
> > > > Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
> > > > BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
> > > > Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
> > > > Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
> > > > Cable/Accessories: Driver CD
> > > > Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info->
N82E16814102215
> > > > $31.50 $31.50
> > > >
> > > > For $242.50 plus tax, that seems like a very reasonable system
(given
> I
> > > > already own so much of it).
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts? Do all the above components seem compatible? I
checked
> > the
> > > > specs on the ASUS site and to the degree I understand all these
specs,
> I
> > > > think the mobo, CPU and RAM are all compatible.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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"John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:l--dnfm19ssxe2DdRVn-rA@lmi.net...
> Michael-NC,
>
> That's all good advice. Thanks. My mom's setup isn't bad right now --
good
> chair, monitor, wrist support, etc. As much as I try, I can't get her to
> use the Internet or e-mail, so the AV stuff isn't as critical as it is for
> you and me. The fact is, once I deliver the system, she is not likely to
> connect to the Internet at all -- even for updates! And, she only has
> dialup, so "always on" isn't an issue.

That used to be so but today you have virii and exploits around that can
infect a user without them doing anything. Dial-up is just not as safe as it
used to be. A firewall is a must today. Of course, if she _never_ connects
to the net, that's a different story.


> My mom is by no means a savvy computer user. We used to use pcAnywhere,
> then VNC so I could connect to her computer and help her when she was
stuck
> with something (mostly in Quicken).
>
> Blaedmon... you may be right that the system I described is over-kill for
> the use. The current system is so old and slow that I thought a new
system
> would be nice, but a used P3 is cheap and would be just fine. I'll look
> into that.
>
> John

I think you're fine those parts. Besides, it's only 240 bucks, why fool
around with a used machine?


> "Michael-NC" <NoAddress@desolate.com> wrote in message
> news:rZkLc.143465$wH4.7743355@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > That's more than horsepower. Better think more about ergonomics for a
> > "seasoned" user as well, meaning: good chair, large enough display,
wrist
> > support for KB and mouse and remember to lock down the machine with AV,
> > anti-spyware and a good firewall. Having the security apps, as well as
the
> > OS set to "auto-update" is a good idea as well.
> >
> > This assumes that your mom isn't a savvy computer user, she may be but I
> > just offer it as generic advice for people who are building machines for
> > parents or other newbie's. A separate partition that holds an image of
the
> > boot drive is also a handy thing.
> >
> > "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> > news:yPSdnc1_UuVlWmDdRVn-uQ@lmi.net...
> > > Follow-up to first post...
> > >
> > > Perhaps this ASUS mobo with built-in video would be an even better
> choice:
> > >
> > > ASUS "P4G800-V" i865G Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
> CPU -RETAIL
> > > Specifications:
> > > Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Celeron Processors
> > > Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
> > > FSB: 800/533/400MHz
> > > RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
> > > IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > > Slots: 1x AGP 8X,6x PCI
> > > Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xVGA,1xLAN,Audio Ports
> > > Onboard Audio: AC97 Audio Codec
> > > Onboard Video: Intel Extreme Graphics 2
> > > Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
> > > Onboard SATA: 2x Serial ATA
> > > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131439 $91.00 $91.00
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Again, thank you.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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I'd rather send her a new machine, burned in, tested thoroughly, with all
Windows updates applied. That's what got me thinking about assembling a new
machine, particularly since I have an extra case and the other components
already. And, yes, 240 bucks isn't much these days.

As of now, my mom _never_ goes online!

John

"Michael-NC" <NoAddress@desolate.com> wrote in message
news:CQlLc.143475$wH4.7755604@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
> "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:rNudnQYa_M2PemDdRVn-oA@lmi.net...
> > _chris_
> >
> > You guys are right. I feel a little dumb now for having made my
original
> > post without first thinking it through. Sorry about that!
> >
> > John
>
> Think again, your parts are only 240.00 dollars and you'd have a quality
> machine. If your Mom does get on the internet, 200MHz machine is
challenged
> today. Besides, _you_ have to support that machine. Would you rather send
> her something you built that has new parts and that you burned in or an
old
> clunker?
>
>
> > "_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3mlLc.19968$Gf7.740925@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > An old P1 200, PII, or even something around 500Mhz would be more than
> > > enough.
> > > check out your local classified you should be able to find a complete
> > system
> > > for well under $200 that will do more than enough of what is required.
> > >
> > > Who really cares about specs when it's basicly going to be used for
> > quickin,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Blaedmon" <ass@hell.com> wrote in message
> > > news:cdkjqf$1lor$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > > > Ermm.. if all shes going to do is basically word processing.. why
are
> > you
> > > > even considering getting something half decent? Just grab a 486.
Done.
> > > >
> > > > "John Blaustein" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:5YydnT_n_KxpWGDdRVn-rQ@lmi.net...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just built my first PC -- P4P800-E Deluxe, P4/3.0, 2GB Mushkin
> RAM.
> > > > With
> > > > > the help of many people in this newsgroup, my first PC building
> > > experience
> > > > > went without a hitch.
> > > > >
> > > > > I may need to build another system and this one needs to be about
as
> > > "low
> > > > > end" as possible. It's for my 87 year old mother who only uses
the
> > > > computer
> > > > > for Quicken and word processing with MS Works. She is now using
an
> > old
> > > > > Pentium system that's at least ten years old.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an extra Antec ATX case with a 350w PSU, an extra floppy
> drive,
> > a
> > > > > couple of extra Maxtor and WD EIDE drives, so all I really need is
a
> > > mobo,
> > > > > CPU, RAM and video card. Looking at newegg, I came up with the
> > > following:
> > > > >
> > > > > ASUS "P4PE2-X" i845PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478
> > > CPU -RETAIL
> > > > > Specifications:
> > > > > Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
> > > > > Chipset: Intel 845PE + ICH4
> > > > > FSB: 533/400MHz
> > > > > RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
> > > > > IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
> > > > > Slots: 1x AGP 4X, 4x PCI
> > > > > Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,RCA SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear
4),1xLAN,Audio
> > > Ports
> > > > > Onboard Audio: AD1888 6-Channel Audio
> > > > > Onboard LAN: Realtek 8101L 10/100Mbps Ethernet
> > > > > Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131496 $64.00 $64.00
> > > > >
> > > > > Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 400MHz FSB, 128K Cache - Retail
> > > > > Specifications:
> > > > > Model: Intel Celeron(Pentium 4 based)
> > > > > Core: Northwood
> > > > > Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
> > > > > FSB: 400MHz
> > > > > Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/128K
> > > > > Voltage: 1.525V
> > > > > Process: 0.13Micron
> > > > > Socket: Socket 478
> > > > > Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
> > > > > Warranty: 3-year MFG
> > > > > Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
> > > > > more info->
> > > > > N82E16819112176 $67.00 $67.00
> > > > >
> > > > > Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
> > > > > Specification
> > > > > Manufacturer: Mushkin
> > > > > Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
> > > > > Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> > > > > Error Checking: Non-ECC
> > > > > Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> > > > > Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
> > > > > Support Voltage: 2.5V
> > > > > Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
> > > > > Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
> > > > > Warranty: Lifetime
> > > > > more info-> N82E16820146214 $40.00 $80.00
> > > > >
> > > > > SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000 Video Card, 32MB SDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X
> > > > AGP -BULK
> > > > > Specifications:
> > > > > Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000/150MHz
> > > > > Memory/Effective Speed: 32MB SDR/150MHz
> > > > > BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
> > > > > Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out+Composite Out)
> > > > > Support 3D API: DirectX®7, OpenGL®
> > > > > Cable/Accessories