80wire cable question,PLEASE!

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Hello world!

I have a UDMA/33 HD (ATA-4) and I use a regular old data cable...Recently I
read from Maxtor.com web site that it's recommended to use on UDMA/33 drives
that special 80 wire cable for UDMA/66 drives....how come?
And what good can it bring if everything else is not 66MB/sec?

Thanks in advance,

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Yours truly,
Alon Brodski

 

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Alon Brodski wrote:

> Hello world!
>
> I have a UDMA/33 HD (ATA-4) and I use a regular old data cable...Recently I
> read from Maxtor.com web site that it's recommended to use on UDMA/33 drives
> that special 80 wire cable for UDMA/66 drives....how come?
> And what good can it bring if everything else is not 66MB/sec?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>

The 80-wire cables are needed for U/66 and faster. They are rarely
needed and rarely of any value for U/33 and slower, but there have
been a few reports of U/33 HDs getting fewer transfer errors with
80-wire cables, due to the increased rejection of radiated noise inside
PC cases.

If you want to experiment, just replace your old 40-wire cables with
80-wire cables. Can't hurt (unless you do it with the power on),
but probably won't make any difference.
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[Neil]

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As I understand it the only time you need to use a 80 pins cable is UDMA66
and above. There will be no performance increase when used on UDMA33
controllers. The cable is the only thing that is different the connectors
can be plugged into either UDMA33 or 66 to 133.

hope that helps
Neil
"Alon Brodski" <abrodski@delete.012.net.il> wrote in message
news:40b87017$1@news.012.net.il...
> Hello world!
>
> I have a UDMA/33 HD (ATA-4) and I use a regular old data cable...Recently
I
> read from Maxtor.com web site that it's recommended to use on UDMA/33
drives
> that special 80 wire cable for UDMA/66 drives....how come?
> And what good can it bring if everything else is not 66MB/sec?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
> Yours truly,
> Alon Brodski
>
>

 

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80-core cables have every second wire earthed, which
results in a reduction of cross-talk between the wires.
This in turn allows the transfer speed to be increased
by about 30%. 80-core cables are not so "special"
anymore - they have been around for a few years now.


"Alon Brodski" <abrodski@delete.012.net.il> wrote in message
news:40b87017$1@news.012.net.il...
> Hello world!
>
> I have a UDMA/33 HD (ATA-4) and I use a regular old data cable...Recently
I
> read from Maxtor.com web site that it's recommended to use on UDMA/33
drives
> that special 80 wire cable for UDMA/66 drives....how come?
> And what good can it bring if everything else is not 66MB/sec?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
> Yours truly,
> Alon Brodski
>
>

 

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Hey!

Thanks for your help!
So I would assume that using that 80 wire cable is not going to damage
anything on older HD?
If I understood you correctly,the benefit of that special cable (I called it
"special" not because it's special,just to type less-sorry) has something to
do with earthing and not with UDMA controller/drive?But I don't have 80 pins
in my HD on it's back,just 40...Every 2nd hole would be empty,no?Also on a
motherboard....Are you saying that even though my UDMA/33 HD won't work as
fast as UDMA/66 would,but it still would have somewhat better performance
comparing to my same drive ,but if I used a 40 wire cable?


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Yours truly,
Alon Brodski

 

[Kenny]

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even on the 80 wire cables the pins are still 40 because only 40 of the 80
wires are used for data transfers the others are only there to decrease
interference.
You can use a 80 wire cable just like a 40 wire cable with no worry that
something will be damaged.
In other words a 80 wire cable and 40 wire cable have the same interface on
the ends of the cables.

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"Alon Brodski" <abrodski@delete.012.net.il> wrote in message
news:40b88913$1@news.012.net.il...
> Hey!
>
> Thanks for your help!
> So I would assume that using that 80 wire cable is not going to damage
> anything on older HD?
> If I understood you correctly,the benefit of that special cable (I called
it
> "special" not because it's special,just to type less-sorry) has something
to
> do with earthing and not with UDMA controller/drive?But I don't have 80
pins
> in my HD on it's back,just 40...Every 2nd hole would be empty,no?Also on a
> motherboard....Are you saying that even though my UDMA/33 HD won't work as
> fast as UDMA/66 would,but it still would have somewhat better performance
> comparing to my same drive ,but if I used a 40 wire cable?
>
>
> --
> Yours truly,
> Alon Brodski
>
>


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[Guest]

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Your controller will sense if you have an 80-conductor cable,
and if the disk supports the higher speed. The connectors are
the same on both types of cables, and no damage occurs if
you use either cable on any controller.


"Alon Brodski" <abrodski@delete.012.net.il> wrote in message
news:40b88913$1@news.012.net.il...
> Hey!
>
> Thanks for your help!
> So I would assume that using that 80 wire cable is not going to damage
> anything on older HD?
> If I understood you correctly,the benefit of that special cable (I called
it
> "special" not because it's special,just to type less-sorry) has something
to
> do with earthing and not with UDMA controller/drive?But I don't have 80
pins
> in my HD on it's back,just 40...Every 2nd hole would be empty,no?Also on a
> motherboard....Are you saying that even though my UDMA/33 HD won't work as
> fast as UDMA/66 would,but it still would have somewhat better performance
> comparing to my same drive ,but if I used a 40 wire cable?
>
>
> --
> Yours truly,
> Alon Brodski
>
>