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October 29, 2009 2:14:47 AM

I was stupid enough to purchase a family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium and installed on my Compaq Notebook and my Sony Vaio Desktop.

It turned them both into bricks. It is the worst operating system I have ever encountered. Vista was much better in my opinion. I am now trying to re-install Vista on both computers.

Has anyone else had this misfortune

BTW. I have now bought an iMac

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a c 411 $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 2:33:04 AM

You never had anything but a mac....your just a microsoft basher!
a c 215 $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 2:35:44 AM

Richard0656 said:
I was stupid enough to purchase a family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium and installed on my Compaq Notebook and my Sony Vaio Desktop.

It turned them both into bricks. It is the worst operating system I have ever encountered. Vista was much better in my opinion. I am now trying to re-install Vista on both computers.

Has anyone else had this misfortune

BTW. I have now bought an iMac


Care to elaborate? The only thing you were stupid enough to do was come here and bash Windows 7 without saying why it is giving you troubles. Instead of asking for help, you gave up after a few minutes (ironically, like so many Vista users did when it came out) and wrote it off as a piece of crap. How about telling us how 7 "bricked" your Compaq and Sony systems and perhaps we can help you figure out why and how to fix it.
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a b $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 2:37:16 AM

I would think after turning 1st one into a brick, you would have stopped. Did you do an upgrade or clean install ? Upgrading from one OS to another is generally a bad idea....most here will recommend clean installs on a freshly formatted drive.

There's been plenty of warnings about the Win7 upgrade process as there have been with every MS OS ....early adopters bear the brunt of this as they essentially serve as unpaid testers. You might think of it as by the time SP1 is released, the success rate goes from 90 to 95 % ... SP2 takes you to 98 % and SP3 takes you to 99% ...that's when business IT guys buy in .

IT Mantra - It's still a beta until SP3. And Windows 7 is essentially Vista SP3 so maybe it will fare better.
a c 215 $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 2:42:56 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
I would think after turning 1st one into a brick, you would have stopped. Did you do an upgrade or clean install ? Upgrading from one OS to another is generally a bad idea....most here will recommend clean installs on a freshly formatted drive.

There's been plenty of warnings about the Win7 upgrade process as there have been with every MS OS ....early adopters bear the brunt of this as they essentially serve as unpaid testers. You might think of it as by the time SP1 is released, the success rate goes from 90 to 95 % ... SP2 takes you to 98 % and SP3 takes you to 99% ...that's when business IT guys buy in .

IT Mantra - It's still a beta until SP3. And Windows 7 is essentially Vista SP3 so maybe it will fare better.


Your logic is sound, but your timing is a bit off. The IT Mantra is it's in beta until SP1, then deployments pick up. Also, Most large corporations do not perform in-place upgrades when rolling out new versions of Windows to their employees. They build completely fresh images, but often times the RTM build is still a bit buggy so they hold off until the release of SP1.

The company I work for did this with Vista (deployed starting after the release of SP1, but didn't touch it before), whereas with Windows 7, they are already building an image and pursuing an aggressive deployment campaign.
October 29, 2009 3:24:48 AM

Personally, I don't believe he installed it properly. I'm not an expert, but in less than a few hours I've got windows 7 working on an AM2 Sempron with 2 gigs of single channel RAM and no graphics card (geforce 6100 I think), a socket 775 pentium 4 sans graphics card and only 1 gig of ram, and for the kicker on an ancient pc I have which is a SOCKET A with an Athlon xp @1.8 ghz and an old AGP 8x graphics card. I think that one has 1 gig of ram soaking wet. All of the machines installed the first time, and that is with windows 7 configuring a dual boot with XP which lives on different partitions.
October 29, 2009 3:40:08 AM

I think somebody needs to learn the difference between "bricking" and just screwing up an installation.
October 29, 2009 4:10:50 AM

My install when perfectly. on my desktop and it only took like 20 to install win 7 and there wasn't any missing driver :)  but then it took like another 2 hours to install of my my software and customizing it.

and the same thing with my laptop.

I think you just did something wrong with your install
a b $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 6:10:40 AM

Richard0656 said:
I was stupid enough to purchase a family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium and installed on my Compaq Notebook and my Sony Vaio Desktop.

It turned them both into bricks. It is the worst operating system I have ever encountered. Vista was much better in my opinion. I am now trying to re-install Vista on both computers.

Has anyone else had this misfortune

BTW. I have now bought an iMac




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Has anyone else had this misfortune


Not exactly, but best of luck with future endeavors.







October 29, 2009 6:17:39 AM

I don't think he tried to install win7 at all.

What a loser.
a b $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 6:29:45 AM

Stupid MAC fan, jealous because Win 7 is better then Snow leopard. Im running windows 7 ultimate 64 and snow leopard on my PC and 7 is faster and all around better feel.

Not to mention I have tons more software for Windows then I do for Mac. The only reason I use Mac is because its all my sons school has and he need to have it for school stuff.
October 29, 2009 6:33:49 AM

a b $ Windows 7
October 29, 2009 6:49:55 AM

Hmm. Sounds like a typical Mac user to me. Install OS on one computer and it bricks it (yeah - like that happens!), so let's try it on another one just to be sure. Anyone that stupid deserves to pay over the odds for a Mac. If you'd care to send me the bricked laptops I'll dispose of them for you.
October 29, 2009 7:17:37 AM

I think this guy is an idiot, I have started deployment of windows 7 enterprise to 650 desktops and have yet to encounter a single problem. All users use offline folder redirection, so every morning 50 workstations boot from the network and get the new OS. We had workshops with the users training them in the basics and showing them the differences.

Theya re all happy thus far, and their computers are performing better and more stable.

As for " I have bought a MAC now" you probably never had a PC to start off with, poser.

FYI, I have a 17" powerbook, but use a Compaq 8710w notebook to do my CAD design as it outperforms the MAC in all benchmarks, and it is a lesser spec. Mac is not what it used to be, I know a lot of designers and they all won MAC notebooks, but when it comes to raw power, they have these little "nuclear" Intel workstations underneath their desks doing rendering, as the power macs are simply too expensive.

Anyone who spends years not upgrading and or backing up data, who looses data when upgrading or migrating to a newer OS, should be shot !!!
October 29, 2009 11:41:36 AM

MarkToronto said:
I think somebody needs to learn the difference between "bricking" and just screwing up an installation.


QFE
October 29, 2009 11:45:59 AM

Jeanv said:
I think this guy is an idiot, I have started deployment of windows 7 enterprise to 650 desktops and have yet to encounter a single problem. All users use offline folder redirection, so every morning 50 workstations boot from the network and get the new OS. We had workshops with the users training them in the basics and showing them the differences.



That is so cool how you can do that over a network!
November 1, 2009 7:02:00 AM

Stop the Hate :bounce:  , the World (of PC's) would be much better off. I have been using BOTH for 15 years since W95 and Mac OS8 side by side!

If you ask me an opinion, I'VE GOT NONE. This is 2010 almost, people still not realized the different between the two machines. Man where's the love????
a b $ Windows 7
November 1, 2009 9:29:34 AM

he joined and made 1 post, this one, MAC ASS, get a life
November 1, 2009 10:12:10 AM

If PC's are "rubbish" why do they have 90% of the market share? I like Mac's. I don't like the people use them telling me that what I use is garbage. I have never done that on a Mac forum and never would. Just shows you the type of people that use them. Both PC's and Mac's serve a purpose and I can respect that.
November 1, 2009 12:05:01 PM

Richard0656 said:
I was stupid enough to purchase a family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium and installed on my Compaq Notebook and my Sony Vaio Desktop.

It turned them both into bricks. It is the worst operating system I have ever encountered. Vista was much better in my opinion. I am now trying to re-install Vista on both computers.

Has anyone else had this misfortune

BTW. I have now bought an iMac


Use them as anchor if you have boat.
Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
January 16, 2010 6:30:59 PM

Hi
The guy runing win95 :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce:  was right.For me win98(second edition) was topsI had dreamweaver,photoshop,maya,and hundreds of cds with graphics ,sounds etc
but now we just talk operating systems ...Windows 7 does what the last five updates did .......just make it big and dumb !!! Try open suse with wine !!!!! :bounce:  :hello:  :hello:  :hello:  :hello: 
a b $ Windows 7
January 16, 2010 6:37:41 PM

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big and dumb

Very appropriate comment. ;) 
January 16, 2010 6:51:33 PM

mine installed perfectly first try, you obviously don't know how to follow the instructions
Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
January 19, 2010 8:25:06 PM

All,

Disapointment is how I would best describe my experience of Windows 7. All of the above you are concerned with the ability of people to articulate their issues - Three days ago, I bought a brand new laptop. Up until now I have not been able to use it.

The laptop is for my dad who simply wants e-mail running off of a dial up connection. He does not want broadband.

I currently have a Macbook pro and a desktop pc running XP, so I have both, and am happy using both.

Here are my issues:
- I open the box, turn it on go through the motions, very happy. my three yr old son is running around, I shut the lid. When I open it again the screen is black.
- I hard reset it, look on a few forums find out that I have to run several updates before it will become stable again, but I'm on dial up. So I have to take the laptop to my house.
- I download the updates, it seems to have fixed it. So I start working out where express or outlook is. It is not. So I have to download Windows live. The mail program does not come pre-installed. So download and install.
- I shut the lid on Monday night.
- Today is has crashed when I opened the lid.
- I then attempt to turn it on - Adobe needs updating, then it shuts down and restarts.
- It restarts, and I have to update Windows again with messges popping up from the bottom right again!
- I go to open IE, it takes ages to load. Whilst I am waiting I try to use the trackpad, no consistency of gesture recognition, but I'll let that one go, it took me a while to get used to the mac pad.

All in. It is three days in, and I am using a laptop that I have Zero trust, or desire to use, and my dad will not see his new laptop for a week.

People, get off your seemingly high horses in a mac / pc war - it should work out of the box, it should have the basics pre-installed, and people such as my dad should be able to use it.

Disapointed,
Howard.
a b $ Windows 7
January 19, 2010 8:32:06 PM

Quote:
All,

Disapointment is how I would best describe my experience of Windows 7. All of the above you are concerned with the ability of people to articulate their issues - Three days ago, I bought a brand new laptop. Up until now I have not been able to use it.

The laptop is for my dad who simply wants e-mail running off of a dial up connection. He does not want broadband.

I currently have a Macbook pro and a desktop pc running XP, so I have both, and am happy using both.

Here are my issues:
- I open the box, turn it on go through the motions, very happy. my three yr old son is running around, I shut the lid. When I open it again the screen is black.
- I hard reset it, look on a few forums find out that I have to run several updates before it will become stable again, but I'm on dial up. So I have to take the laptop to my house.
- I download the updates, it seems to have fixed it. So I start working out where express or outlook is. It is not. So I have to download Windows live. The mail program does not come pre-installed. So download and install.
- I shut the lid on Monday night.
- Today is has crashed when I opened the lid.
- I then attempt to turn it on - Adobe needs updating, then it shuts down and restarts.
- It restarts, and I have to update Windows again with messges popping up from the bottom right again!
- I go to open IE, it takes ages to load. Whilst I am waiting I try to use the trackpad, no consistency of gesture recognition, but I'll let that one go, it took me a while to get used to the mac pad.

All in. It is three days in, and I am using a laptop that I have Zero trust, or desire to use, and my dad will not see his new laptop for a week.

People, get off your seemingly high horses in a mac / pc war - it should work out of the box, it should have the basics pre-installed, and people such as my dad should be able to use it.

Disapointed,
Howard.



To sum up your first nOOb post, I'm not sure you should be condemned for your stupidity or simply marvel at your ability to form words.
Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
January 19, 2010 8:53:27 PM

Thank you for letting me off lightly...

So what did I do wrong that was potentially stupid?

OK, Apart from the Dial up part... My Dad really will not go to a faster connection, he only wants to use e-mail, and refuses to use the internet for it. He wants a program like he used to have - Outlook.
a b $ Windows 7
January 20, 2010 3:57:10 AM

Updates are part of a modern OS... connect a brand-new Windows XP to the internet and let me know how long those updates will take. (There are a LOT more XP updates than 7 updates).

As MS started including more and more programs and features with Windows... people started getting up in arms. Now, MS has left something out and people are up in arms. Downloading an email client is not a big deal... unless you happen to be on dial-up, of course.

Driver updates... again, that's simply part of the equation. Being a Windows XP user, you should know that. (But then since you're running it on the Mac, maybe you don't.) Yes, in a perfect world, everything works great out of the box... and in your case you were probably one of the unlucky ones. However, that's exactly what updates are for... fixing bugs. Macs suffer from bugs too... you just don't hear about them as much since there are much less Mac users out there.

You see, the PCs greatest strength can also be a weakness. You have a virtually limitless choice of hardware components to put into your PC. You aren't limited to certain video cards or certain sound cards... you can put almost anything in there and as long as you have drivers, it will work. However, it is hard to support a myriad of hardware choices and expect everything to be perfectly stable. Sometimes it is (I personally only had issues with one of my builds... an original Radeon card with a picky Intel chipset)... but sometimes it's not.

Basically, when you buy a Windows PC (I can only speak of Windows, I don't use Mac) you have to be prepared to download updates right out of the box. Unfortunately, a laptop sitting in a box for 6 months has absolutely no way of updating itself. No one said it wasn't a pain in the ass (especially on dial-up), but that's the way it is. The updates are created to enhance security and stability.

So tell me... what would you rather have... an OS that never has updates available despite bugs and holes or an OS that updates itself regularly to ensure you have the best possible user experience?

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he only wants to use e-mail, and refuses to use the internet for it.


Well I hate to break it to your Dad, but the internet is absolutely necessary... not just for email, but to keep things up to date.
a c 215 $ Windows 7
January 20, 2010 4:05:49 AM

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OK, Apart from the Dial up part... My Dad really will not go to a faster connection, he only wants to use e-mail, and refuses to use the internet for it. He wants a program like he used to have - Outlook.


That's interesting... he wants email, but doesn't want to use the internet to get it.... as soon as he finds a solution that fits that criteria, please do let me know! Even over dialup, it's still the internet.

If he wants to use Outlook, all he (or probably you in this case) has to do is install it. Office 2003, 2007 and 2010 all work under Windows 7 so I don't see why this is a problem.
a b $ Windows 7
January 21, 2010 3:26:50 AM

It's only a problem because he believes Windows should have come with it preinstalled. It's not a big deal to download it, unless you have a painfully slow dial-up connection, that is. I'm guessing that when he says Outlook, he really means Outlook Express... since even Windows XP didn't come with Outlook. Vista came with Windows Mail, but once Windows Live Essentials came out, it quickly replaced Windows Mail with Windows Live Mail. Why MS didn't include the package with Windows 7, I do not know.

Internet is practically a necessity these days... not an option. If you have a computer you never go online with, it's a different matter. However, since your Dad requires email, internet is an absolute necessity.
January 21, 2010 5:23:45 PM

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