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Nvidia Hints That Kepler is 3x Faster Than Fermi

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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 2:16:36 AM

Doesn't matter how much faster it is until its released. People are waiting nVidia.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 2:17:11 AM

If nVidia pull it off, that will be pretty amazing, though I will still be happy with my new ATi (AMD) card atm :) 
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March 13, 2012 2:21:23 AM

Wow. Genius Nvidia. This will be like a complete buzzkill for anyone who wants to buy an AMD card. Who cares if it's true? It's genius.
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March 13, 2012 2:26:23 AM

yeah sounds all great but at what cost increase? :p 
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March 13, 2012 2:46:00 AM

looniamyeah sounds all great but at what cost increase?

no matter the prices people will buy new hardware
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March 13, 2012 2:50:05 AM

All they need to do is slightly improve their current performance with a lower thermal output due to the process shrink and if they can ramp up the yeild it will be a winner ... notwithstanding drivers.

3 times the performance ... I don't think so.
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March 13, 2012 2:50:18 AM

Leaked GTX 680 benchmarks show just 30/50% improvement over GTX 580. That's far from 200% necessary to be 3X speedier. GK110 is going to be 100% on best case.
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March 13, 2012 2:51:14 AM

we'll see it when it happens... If it does, AMD is going to feel some serious pain.
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March 13, 2012 2:52:47 AM

Did you mean, "rumors will *ONLY* help nvidia so much"?
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March 13, 2012 2:58:52 AM

The article did not clearly states which Fermi is it referring to..
Yeahh.. A GTX 680 would be 3x more faster than GT 440 or GTS 450..
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March 13, 2012 2:59:08 AM

The new AMD Releases Catalyst 12.2 Drivers makes the 7970 cards 2x faster then Kepler cards
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 3:02:30 AM

3x times faster? Hopefully, not 3x hotter too.

Unless they're planning to equip their cards with LCLC out of the box. :D 
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 3:04:17 AM

Quote:
Of course, rumors will help Nvidia so much. Next month, Nvidia will have to prove whether the early praise was justified or not.


Another rumor states that the GK104 will be out the 23rd of THIS month.
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March 13, 2012 3:09:14 AM

I smell BS... as pointed out above, just to put off ppl buying the AMD 7000 series, which was revolutionary in offering a decent performance bump at drastically reduced power requirements.
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March 13, 2012 3:11:20 AM

may be they mean 3 times faster than Fermi.....GTS450?
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March 13, 2012 3:13:28 AM

no person with a sage mind wud believe this bs. put up by toms...
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 3:15:14 AM

This isn't news....
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March 13, 2012 3:16:25 AM

it says that kepler is 5% slower than the 7970.
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March 13, 2012 3:22:50 AM

Faster is good. Lets hope notebooks get some updates soon too.

Then again, lets hope we get some more games with which to use this new power
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March 13, 2012 3:36:34 AM

gk104, march 23 release date, gtx 680 although a faster single gpu kepler is slated for later this year, 190w tdp, x3300 3dmark 11 score, reportedly does worse on synthetic benchmarks which do not take into full account physix, $550

videocardz. com, they site their sources well enough
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March 13, 2012 3:40:38 AM

I'll believe it when I see it. I already bought an AMD 7950 and have no intention of replacing it. I do really want to see the competition in the GPU arena remain steady though.

It's a shame we waste so much power and money on sloppy console ports. I'd be more excited to see Nvidia open its own game studio to make games to promote high-end GPUs and its Tegra devices. Seeing another Epic tech demo does not interest me. The Samaritan tech demo has some really weak lighting although I am glad to see that the plastic-wrapped look is gone.
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March 13, 2012 3:52:26 AM

Holy crap people. Learn Math. The article says that the original "Samaritan" video ran on 3 GTX 580s. Now it runs an a single Kepler Chip. That is the implied 3x. I didn't it was true, I said learn math.
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March 13, 2012 3:53:54 AM

All i keep hearing from nvidia is bark but we have yet to see the bite that they claim. If this turns out to be another bulldozer with all of this hype around Kepler, then nvidia will be in a lot of trouble. This would be the worse then AMD's hype of bulldozer if Kepler doesn't live up to the hype nvidia is claiming with it's next gen gpu.
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March 13, 2012 3:57:58 AM

There's simply no way it'll be three times faster. We know Samaritan ran on 3 GTX 580's but we had no info about the fram rates, and how well it would run with just two of them.

Let's say it ran at 60 FPS with 3 GTX 580.
Then, even if Kepler is twice as fast as GTX 580, it can still run the demo at 30 FPS, which is reasonable.
And if you consider that FXAA is a lot lighter on the GPU, then the gap between Kepler and GTX 580 diminishes further.

And finally, for all we know, it could be a dual-GPU Kepler, like a GTX 690. Though that's unlikely.

But as much as I would love that to be true, there's no way it's 3 times faster than the GTX 580.
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March 13, 2012 4:08:21 AM

If the board is anything like the pictures that have been getting press lately it looks like if you water block the new Kepler GPU's that they won't be true single slot, kind of like how the mid high end range 6000 series were :/ . And its ironic because AMD's 7000 series is now true single slot if you water block it where as Nvidia's current 500 series are single slot if you water block them lol.

Other than that if you're an enthusiasts who doesn't plan on water blocking the upcoming GPU's, here's hoping they'll be great!
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 4:11:37 AM

3x?
No
The entire game engine has been overhauled, FXAA is being used, and the 680 is faster, but who knows by how much?
Tri SLI loses a great deal in scaling as well.
In this demo? it could be as low as only 70% than a single card, that did do MSAA and the demo wasnt as tweaked by then, as if Epic wouldnt do that
This doesnt say a lot about the 680 other than it will be decent
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March 13, 2012 4:13:20 AM

How do I win this card?
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March 13, 2012 4:13:48 AM

bigdragonI'll believe it when I see it. I already bought an AMD 7950 and have no intention of replacing it. I do really want to see the competition in the GPU arena remain steady though.It's a shame we waste so much power and money on sloppy console ports. I'd be more excited to see Nvidia open its own game studio to make games to promote high-end GPUs and its Tegra devices. Seeing another Epic tech demo does not interest me. The Samaritan tech demo has some really weak lighting although I am glad to see that the plastic-wrapped look is gone.


A lot of game companies are making PC versions of their games these days, not just porting from console versions. An example would be Borderlands 2 - the original BL was ported to PC, but Gearbox has specifically said the PC version of BLT (Borderlands Two, as some of us like to call it :)  ) is not a port. The PC version will be released at the same time as the versions for the Xbox and PS3 (Sept 18, 2012 in the U.S.A.).

;) 
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March 13, 2012 4:17:30 AM

If I could thumb down a news article... this would be it.

*facepalm
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March 13, 2012 5:04:29 AM

RazorBurn said:
The article did not clearly states which Fermi is it referring to..
Yeahh.. A GTX 680 would be 3x more faster than GT 440 or GTS 450..

They said in the article, just before summer 2011 that demo was running 3x 580's just to run that next gen demo.
They didn't state what keplar card did it, but i can only guess 1x 680. There referring to 1x keplar card beating 3x 580's. :non: 
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March 13, 2012 5:08:03 AM

Get ready for a huge disappointment if you think Krapler is 3x faster that Thermi.
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March 13, 2012 5:09:23 AM

nebunno matter the prices people will buy new hardware


Are you suggesting that nvidia people are like Apple people?
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March 13, 2012 5:24:35 AM

sure, like apple is 3x faster than tegra.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 5:31:59 AM

we will have killer video cards, where are the killer games? :) 
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March 13, 2012 5:58:04 AM

It was single graphics card, but might've been dual gpu, with the msaa->fxaa change, it might be just about 20% faster. Well, we should know for sure soon enough.
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March 13, 2012 6:36:43 AM

giovanni86They said in the article, just before summer 2011 that demo was running 3x 580's just to run that next gen demo.They didn't state what keplar card did it, but i can only guess 1x 680. There referring to 1x keplar card beating 3x 580's.
perhaps they mean 1x Kepler dual chip card? oh yeah... possible....may be....
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March 13, 2012 6:51:57 AM

Bought a 7970, just hope AMD stands by its promise to deliver more up to date drivers and by that i mean support the newest titles with xfire ect. I dont want to have to scourage the forums for hacks to enable something that should have worked since day one when a new pice of software is released. Nvidia have by far quicker responce when new titles are released and usualy the latest driver support the new games right away when their released.

For instance Diablo 3 already have full sli and ambient occlusion support in the nvidia drivers, will amd drivers even have xfire support when it will be released or do i have to scourage the forums to get xfire to kick in? AMD make good gpu hardware, just wish their drivers were at the same level!
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March 13, 2012 8:24:22 AM

that video is from march 11 2011, its the one useing 3gpus, not the new one useing only 1, would love to see that demo.
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March 13, 2012 8:35:24 AM

its just bs marketing, there is no way it is 3x faster than previous gen. they have never done that and i dont think they can this time around.
i mean come on, if they have such a beast, why keep the data for themselves? they might as well show it and make amd's sale drop like a rock. it's all rumors, no concrete numbers so close to lunch date.
if they pull something like that, i will buy that card asap.
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March 13, 2012 8:45:40 AM

Kepler is also boasting it's ability to keep rooms up to 500 square feet warm in the winter.
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March 13, 2012 9:18:21 AM

Rumors are free... :p :D 
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 10:02:37 AM

I think Elvis said it appropriately:

"A little less conversation, a little more action, please
All this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me
A little more bite and a little less bark
A little less fight and a little more spark
Close your mouth and open up your heart and, baby, satisfy me"

/amigoingtojailforpiratingthislyric?
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March 13, 2012 10:48:18 AM

cons29its just bs marketing, there is no way it is 3x faster than previous gen. they have never done that and i dont think they can this time around.i mean come on, if they have such a beast, why keep the data for themselves? they might as well show it and make amd's sale drop like a rock. it's all rumors, no concrete numbers so close to lunch date.if they pull something like that, i will buy that card asap.
they could, just line amd could make a gpu that is 8X more powerful than what they currently offer, brute force vs finesse, you want the worlds fastest card, well its up for grabs and its all about how you want to go about it... is it the best method to get that speed... probably not, but unless amd brute forces it too, they will be behind for about 1-2 years.

brute force is not the way you want power, because its more expensive (consumer end) than it is on finesse way of doing it.

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March 13, 2012 10:54:41 AM

mhh. i hated Kepler's laws back in high-school mechanics
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March 13, 2012 11:27:07 AM

witcherxThe new AMD Releases Catalyst 12.2 Drivers makes the 7970 cards 2x faster then Kepler cards


Haha i was just hinting/joking stop tagging me lol :p 
can we also tag news article :p ?
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March 13, 2012 11:32:38 AM

its like bulldozer hype but don't know what's going to happen i hope not failing like a bulldozer
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March 13, 2012 11:32:57 AM

1 new gfx card better than 3 poorly scaled sli setup?

using that as a benchmark, ati's new 7970 beat out (in some tests) xfired 6900's. But I guess this is more of a scaling issue and not "omg our new card is 2x better!?!".

Why don't they go ahead and put 20 old cards in 1 lane pci and demonstrate that their card is 20x better!

Also, I find it amusing that Apple's chip is 1.5-2x(not the 3 times, as advertised) better at graphical performance than Tegra3.

I really feel that nVidia is setting itself up for a failure on the scale of bulldozer.
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March 13, 2012 11:35:39 AM

Seeing another Epic tech demo does not interest me. The Samaritan tech demo has some really weak lighting although I am glad to see that the plastic-wrapped look is gone.

Put away whatever drugs you're on. The lighting in the demo is far and away better than anything we've seen in games. The dark, wet night was specifically chosen to show off the luminescence of the lighting and life like reflections.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 12:02:22 PM

alidanthey could, just line amd could make a gpu that is 8X more powerful than what they currently offer, brute force vs finesse, you want the worlds fastest card, well its up for grabs and its all about how you want to go about it... is it the best method to get that speed... probably not, but unless amd brute forces it too, they will be behind for about 1-2 years. brute force is not the way you want power, because its more expensive (consumer end) than it is on finesse way of doing it.

It's cute that you think consumer cost is the reason AMD isn't making cards 8x more powerful than today's cards, and your rambling about brute force vs finesse is just icing on the cake. The real reason they aren't is because they can't, the technology isn't there yet. You can't just keep cramming more transistors in chips, there's this little problem called heat. That's why process shrinks are so important, it lets you cram more stuff into the same thermal envelope, as well as physical space.

If they were to go and stuff enough of today's technology in a single chip to get even a 2x increase in performance, much less 8x, the chip would be so hot it would literally burn itself up in minutes.
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