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More info?)
In article <up7pj05che7li3pdu7mu7bc8bingif1jab@4ax.com>, DaveyB
<no@email.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 18:21:57 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>
> >This page has bridge info:
> >
> >http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e23.html
> >
> >Erik's picture looks like label fraud, and maybe no bridges
> >were modified. It would look like the FSB was incorrect, and
> >most people simply adjust the clock in the BIOS to fix it.
> >The multiplier on the 2500+ is the same as a 3200+, which means
> >only the FSB needs to be modded. A remarker can either change
> >the FSB, or just leave it, and the end user will assume the
> >external clock always needs to be adjusted on a 3200+.
> >
> >This poster's Vcore is too high, just like yours.
> >
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=Xns9543EB0A86842tristanluscombehotma%40194.117.143.38
> >
> >Look at both the top of the chip, for bridge mods, but also look at the
> >bottom of the CPU, to see if there is any conductive paint on there. To
> >see what pattern they might use to modify the CPU, use this page, and
> >the Vcore menu. That will show you what pins to look for the conductive
> >paint on the bottom of the CPU. As a limited number of connections would
> >need to be modified, not all the mods pictured here would be needed.
> >Some of them are already set by the bridges on top of the chip:
> >
> >http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/html/workshop/pinmod/amd_pinmod.html
> >
> >If it is a hardware failure, it is a pretty strange one. I hope AMD
> >isn't VID modding these themselves
> >
>
> Thanks for those urls, very handy
>
> I've scanned the CPU and also used a 3D microscope to look at the bridges.
>
> It looks like third link up on L11 has been sliced.
>
> Full Pic:
http://www.btinternet.com/~sector101/cpu/3200top.jpg
> Closeup:
http://www.btinternet.com/~sector101/cpu/3200_L11.jpg
>
> Using the microscope thing I noticed some kind of paint joining two sets
of pins on the underside
> of the cpu.
>
> Full Pic:
http://www.btinternet.com/~sector101/cpu/3200bottom.jpg
> Closeup:
http://www.btinternet.com/~sector101/cpu/3200bottommod.jpg
>
> The paint is well hidden under some tan colored coating, I didn't notice
it until it was under the
> microscope.
>
> DaveyB
Excellent! Thanks for educating us on the latest forgery methods!
I guess there really is no substitute for just buying a 2500+
and overclocking the FSB yourself. Maybe everyone who gets burned
on this stuff, should email AMD and suggest they just sell
2500+ from now on
How is your negotiation going with the seller on Ebay ?
Maybe it is up to the buyer to point out that they own a 3D
microscope and know how to use it, before the product is sent
Paul