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September 6, 2004 4:03:22 AM

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I have a A7N8X-E Deluxe board with a AMD 3000+ (OPN: AXDA3000DKV4E) CPU.
Everyting was purchased from NewEgg. Whenever I go into the BIOS (Phoenix -
Award BIOS v 6.00PG) and set the CPU External Freq. to 200Mhz (choices 100,
133, 166 and 200), Clock ratio to 10.5, Nominal Voltage to 1.65V, etc. (and
yes - the CPU_FSB is set to pins 1 and 2 for the default 400/333/266 MHz),
the computer starts to boot - displays what is does indeed have, namely
Athlon 3000+, etc., but then "hangs."



If I then reboot and try to go back into the BIOS, it starts to allow me to
enter values, then it also "freezes up" in the BIOS. So, I end up having to
turn things off, unplug the power cord, take out the battery, switch the
Clear RTC RAM (CLRTC1) jumper to pins 2-3 (to clear), wait for the
recommended (in the user manual anyway) 10 seconds, then switch the jumpers
back to pins 1-2 (default), put the battery back in, plug in the power cord
and reboot into BIOS (DEL key of course), then reset things, esp. the CPU
External Freq. from 200MHz to 166MHz, then save changes and exit the BIOS.
Then the thing boots up fine, but not at it's spec (i.e., the 3000+, or
2100MHz Operating Freq.) , but at a lower, 1533MHz freq/, aqnd it displays
as an Athlon 1800+ while posting.



What am I missing?



Alos, in Device manager (I have Windows XP Home edition), there is the
infamous yellow-question-mark next to "Ethernet Controller." No matter what
I try to do, with all of the drivers on the supplied motherboard disk for
the A7N8X-E Deluxe, etc., it can never find/install the driver(s) it needs
for this particular device. Has anyone else run into this?



Thanks.
September 6, 2004 8:10:29 AM

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In article <ebS_c.12055$nA6.479@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "Wes Stebbins"
<WesGuitar@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> I have a A7N8X-E Deluxe board with a AMD 3000+ (OPN: AXDA3000DKV4E) CPU.
> Everyting was purchased from NewEgg. Whenever I go into the BIOS (Phoenix -
> Award BIOS v 6.00PG) and set the CPU External Freq. to 200Mhz (choices 100,
> 133, 166 and 200), Clock ratio to 10.5, Nominal Voltage to 1.65V, etc. (and
> yes - the CPU_FSB is set to pins 1 and 2 for the default 400/333/266 MHz),
> the computer starts to boot - displays what is does indeed have, namely
> Athlon 3000+, etc., but then "hangs."
>
> If I then reboot and try to go back into the BIOS, it starts to allow me to
> enter values, then it also "freezes up" in the BIOS. So, I end up having to
> turn things off, unplug the power cord, take out the battery, switch the
> Clear RTC RAM (CLRTC1) jumper to pins 2-3 (to clear), wait for the
> recommended (in the user manual anyway) 10 seconds, then switch the jumpers
> back to pins 1-2 (default), put the battery back in, plug in the power cord
> and reboot into BIOS (DEL key of course), then reset things, esp. the CPU
> External Freq. from 200MHz to 166MHz, then save changes and exit the BIOS.
> Then the thing boots up fine, but not at it's spec (i.e., the 3000+, or
> 2100MHz Operating Freq.) , but at a lower, 1533MHz freq/, aqnd it displays
> as an Athlon 1800+ while posting.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Alos, in Device manager (I have Windows XP Home edition), there is the
> infamous yellow-question-mark next to "Ethernet Controller." No matter what
> I try to do, with all of the drivers on the supplied motherboard disk for
> the A7N8X-E Deluxe, etc., it can never find/install the driver(s) it needs
> for this particular device. Has anyone else run into this?
>
> Thanks.

Strange symptoms. Recent Athlons are locked, so the multiplier cannot
be changed. Your 1533MHz number would make more sense, if you had changed
the FSB from 200MHz to 133MHz. Then, I could take 11.5*133=1533.
All clock frequencies have 33MHz as the lowest common factor -
100, 133, 166, 200 are all divisible by 33 (3,4,5,6). Now, divide 1533
by 33.3, we get 46. 46=2x2x11.5 So, you must be at 133MHz and a fixed
multiplier of 11.5 . I cannot get to 1533 with a 10.5 multiplier, unless
you selected a custom frequency like 146MHz or something.

Now, if you use a Windows utility of some sort, like CPUZ or something,
and it says this is a model 10 Barton, then a multiplier of 11.5 makes
the processor a 2600+. If it says the processor is some other model number
(8 or 6), then it could be a Tbred 1800+ or a Palomino 1800+.

So, compare your symptoms to this table. By clearing the CMOS, I think
it is possible the BIOS used the actual defaults encoded by the bridges,
and it is trying to tell you exactly what you bought, as opposed to
what you are hoping you bought.

(Original info http://www.qdi.nl/support/CPUQDISocketA.htm plus
I added the multiplier field to the table. Only the model number
cannot be fudged. The other data is controlled by the bridges.)

Family Core P.R. Pkg CPU Cache Mult Core Tmax Power
Freq Clk Volts

XP Model 10 2200 (3200+) OPGA 200 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 60.4W
Barton 2100 (3000+) OPGA 200 512 10.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W

XP Model 10 2167 (3000+) OPGA 166 512 13x 1.65V 85oC 58.4W
Barton 2083 (2800+) OPGA 166 512 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
1917 (2600+) OPGA 166 512 11.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
1833 (2500+) OPGA 166 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W

XP Model 8 2167 (2700+) OPGA 166 256 13x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
Thoroughbred 2083 (2600+) OPGA 166 256 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W

XP Model 8 2133 (2600+) OPGA 133 256 16x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
Thoroughbred 2000 (2400+) OPGA 133 256 15x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
CPU ID 0681 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.60V 85oC 57.0W
1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.3W
1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W

XP Model 8 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.65V 85oC 61.7W
Thoroughbred 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.4W
CPU ID 0680 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.65V 90oC 54.7W
1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 54.7W
1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.50V 90oC 47.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.50V 90oC 46.3W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.50V 90oC 44.9W

XP Model 6 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.75V 90oC 64.3W
Palomino 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.75V 90oC 62.5W
1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.75V 90oC 60.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.75V 90oC 59.2W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.75V 90oC 57.4W
1400 (1600+) OPGA 133 256 10.5x 1.75V 90oC 56.3W
1333 (1500+) OPGA 133 256 10x 1.75V 90oC 53.8W

If you want to do more detective work, this page has bridge info.
Be careful to turn the chip the right way, so it matches the text
on the web page - otherwise the bridge info may give you a crazy
picture of what you've got.

http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e23.html

HTH,
Paul
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
September 6, 2004 11:37:04 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

"Wes Stebbins" <WesGuitar@neb.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ebS_c.12055$nA6.479@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a A7N8X-E Deluxe board with a AMD 3000+ (OPN: AXDA3000DKV4E) CPU.
> Everyting was purchased from NewEgg. Whenever I go into the BIOS
> (Phoenix -
> Award BIOS v 6.00PG) and set the CPU External Freq. to 200Mhz (choices
> 100,
> 133, 166 and 200), Clock ratio to 10.5, Nominal Voltage to 1.65V, etc.
> (and
> yes - the CPU_FSB is set to pins 1 and 2 for the default 400/333/266 MHz),
> the computer starts to boot - displays what is does indeed have, namely
> Athlon 3000+, etc., but then "hangs."
>
>
>
> If I then reboot and try to go back into the BIOS, it starts to allow me
> to
> enter values, then it also "freezes up" in the BIOS. So, I end up having
> to
> turn things off, unplug the power cord, take out the battery, switch the
> Clear RTC RAM (CLRTC1) jumper to pins 2-3 (to clear), wait for the
> recommended (in the user manual anyway) 10 seconds, then switch the
> jumpers
> back to pins 1-2 (default), put the battery back in, plug in the power
> cord
> and reboot into BIOS (DEL key of course), then reset things, esp. the CPU
> External Freq. from 200MHz to 166MHz, then save changes and exit the BIOS.
> Then the thing boots up fine, but not at it's spec (i.e., the 3000+, or
> 2100MHz Operating Freq.) , but at a lower, 1533MHz freq/, aqnd it displays
> as an Athlon 1800+ while posting.
>
>
>
> What am I missing?
>
>
>
> Alos, in Device manager (I have Windows XP Home edition), there is the
> infamous yellow-question-mark next to "Ethernet Controller." No matter
> what
> I try to do, with all of the drivers on the supplied motherboard disk for
> the A7N8X-E Deluxe, etc., it can never find/install the driver(s) it needs
> for this particular device. Has anyone else run into this?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>

No mention of the memory you are using. The memory
needs to be able to operate at 200, and may require some
adjustments to its timing. The A7N8X-E is somewhat
finicky in that regard.

Luck;
Ken
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
September 6, 2004 3:08:54 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

"Wes Stebbins" <WesGuitar@neb.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ebS_c.12055$nA6.479@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a A7N8X-E Deluxe board with a AMD 3000+ (OPN: AXDA3000DKV4E) CPU.
> Everyting was purchased from NewEgg. Whenever I go into the BIOS
(Phoenix -
> Award BIOS v 6.00PG) and set the CPU External Freq. to 200Mhz (choices
100,
> 133, 166 and 200), Clock ratio to 10.5, Nominal Voltage to 1.65V, etc.
(and
> yes - the CPU_FSB is set to pins 1 and 2 for the default 400/333/266 MHz),
> the computer starts to boot - displays what is does indeed have, namely
> Athlon 3000+, etc., but then "hangs."
>
>
>
> If I then reboot and try to go back into the BIOS, it starts to allow me
to
> enter values, then it also "freezes up" in the BIOS. So, I end up having
to
> turn things off, unplug the power cord, take out the battery, switch the
> Clear RTC RAM (CLRTC1) jumper to pins 2-3 (to clear), wait for the
> recommended (in the user manual anyway) 10 seconds, then switch the
jumpers
> back to pins 1-2 (default), put the battery back in, plug in the power
cord
> and reboot into BIOS (DEL key of course), then reset things, esp. the CPU
> External Freq. from 200MHz to 166MHz, then save changes and exit the BIOS.
> Then the thing boots up fine, but not at it's spec (i.e., the 3000+, or
> 2100MHz Operating Freq.) , but at a lower, 1533MHz freq/, aqnd it displays
> as an Athlon 1800+ while posting.
>
>
>
> What am I missing?

A heatsink on the processor
;)  ..
Seriously tho.. Give us some temps, My guess is that ur cooking ur processor
one boot at a time.
!