Various P4P800 Deluxe Problems...

[nbk]

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Hi

I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
3.06GHz processor.

Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
recognizing my hard drive.

Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
SP2 issue?

Thanks
NBK

 

[Dave]

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Sounds like your hardrive is starting to FAIL. you better backup just
incase..

NBK wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
> PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
> 3.06GHz processor.
>
> Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
> freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
> blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
> that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
> recognizing my hard drive.
>
> Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
> SP2 issue?
>
> Thanks
> NBK

 

[nbk]

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dave wrote:
> Sounds like your hardrive is starting to FAIL. you better backup just
> incase..
>
> NBK wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
>>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
>>3.06GHz processor.
>>
>>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
>>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
>>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
>>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
>>recognizing my hard drive.
>>
>>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
>>SP2 issue?
>>
>>Thanks
>>NBK
>
>
This is happening to 2 of my drives

 

[Paul]

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In article <gU80d.3378$9N5.293541@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK
<no@spam.net> wrote:

> dave wrote:
> > Sounds like your hardrive is starting to FAIL. you better backup just
> > incase..
> >
> > NBK wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
> >>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
> >>3.06GHz processor.
> >>
> >>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
> >>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
> >>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
> >>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
> >>recognizing my hard drive.
> >>
> >>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
> >>SP2 issue?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>NBK
> >
> >
> This is happening to 2 of my drives

When you measure the PSU voltages, are they within 5% of their spec
value ? It is possible the disk drives could do an internal "restart"
if the voltages happen to dip for a moment. It would be more obvious
if both drives did it simultaneously. So, it could be a PSU problem.

When feeding the ATI9800, there should be one drive power cable that
goes only to the ATI9800. You shouldn't power the 9800 and a disk
drive with the same cable. The 9800 could cause a voltage drop in the
cable.

It could also be the IDE interface on the motherboard. To eliminate
multiple drive problems, ideally you would want to test the suspect
drive alone on the IDE cable. That is to eliminate some interaction
between two drives on the same cable. There have been posts here,
of people who had interference between devices plugged on the same
IDE cable, so you may have to either strip down the configuration
a bit, or use a plug-in PCI card as a source of more IDE interfaces,
to do some debugging.

In short, just about anything could be broken here, but disk drives
and power supplies are known bad actors, so suspect them first.
On the motherboard, the voltage conversion circuits are under the
most stress, while the big chips on the board should be pretty
reliable. And, of course, backup with your burner, with verify
turned on, so you'll have your info in a safe place. I learned
that expensive lesson once, by choosing to turn off a computer
with a defective disk drive, telling myself "I can back it up
tomorrow". When tomorrow came, the drive died with a spectacular
"sproing" from inside the drive (implying the head assembly
snagged in the head lock on that model), and all chances to backup
were gone.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Guest]

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:07:56 GMT, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:

I agree that without actually hearing them, it may be the drive(s)...

-

---snippage---

>This is happening to 2 of my drives

how do you know it's both ?
if this is true, then maybe the controler is acting up.

I would disconnect the cd/dvd drives and try running the hdd's on the
secondary channel just to see if the error repeats.

If it knocks again, try running one of the drives each by itself or
run the maxblast disk utilities, that may pick something up...

 

[Gman]

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In article <ge40d.8085$lK5.260100@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
>3.06GHz processor.
>
>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
>recognizing my hard drive.
>
>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
>SP2 issue?
>
>Thanks
>NBK
Do you happen to have the actual release 1017 bios or the beta 1017.04
version?

I had the beta version for a long time and i started having the same click
issues and lockups for like 20 seconds , then it would unfreeze for a few
seconds and then repeat over and over. My F: drive seemed to be the one doing
the clanking sound. Also when i would reboot on occasion the drives on the
raid connectors would not show up and a full cold boot was required.
Basically I finally realized that the beta also had forced all drives to work
in UDMA mode 2 instead of the mode 5 that they actually are and this was
definately a bios issue. I proceeded to download the actual 1017 from asus and
even though it had the same 1017.04 name to it , it was definately the final
1017 release. When it was installed, it fixed the UDMA issue and also the hard
drive mysteriously stopped locking up. I am absolutely positive it was the
beta bios at fault since i have tested the drive with the powermax utility
from here till sunday and there are no errors or SMART errors on any of my
drives.


Hope this helps.

 

[nbk]

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GMAN wrote:
> In article <ge40d.8085$lK5.260100@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
>>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
>>3.06GHz processor.
>>
>>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
>>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
>>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
>>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
>>recognizing my hard drive.
>>
>>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
>>SP2 issue?
>>
>>Thanks
>>NBK
>
> Do you happen to have the actual release 1017 bios or the beta 1017.04
> version?
>
> I had the beta version for a long time and i started having the same click
> issues and lockups for like 20 seconds , then it would unfreeze for a few
> seconds and then repeat over and over. My F: drive seemed to be the one doing
> the clanking sound. Also when i would reboot on occasion the drives on the
> raid connectors would not show up and a full cold boot was required.
> Basically I finally realized that the beta also had forced all drives to work
> in UDMA mode 2 instead of the mode 5 that they actually are and this was
> definately a bios issue. I proceeded to download the actual 1017 from asus and
> even though it had the same 1017.04 name to it , it was definately the final
> 1017 release. When it was installed, it fixed the UDMA issue and also the hard
> drive mysteriously stopped locking up. I am absolutely positive it was the
> beta bios at fault since i have tested the drive with the powermax utility
> from here till sunday and there are no errors or SMART errors on any of my
> drives.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
I have the actual 1017 BIOS Release... I think something is wrong with
the IDE port...

 

[Gman]

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In article <GOD0d.8665$ci3.64361@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:
>GMAN wrote:
>> In article <ge40d.8085$lK5.260100@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK
> <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
>>>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
>>>3.06GHz processor.
>>>
>>>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
>>>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
>>>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
>>>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
>>>recognizing my hard drive.
>>>
>>>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
>>>SP2 issue?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>NBK
>>
>> Do you happen to have the actual release 1017 bios or the beta 1017.04
>> version?
>>
>> I had the beta version for a long time and i started having the same click
>> issues and lockups for like 20 seconds , then it would unfreeze for a few
>> seconds and then repeat over and over. My F: drive seemed to be the one
> doing
>> the clanking sound. Also when i would reboot on occasion the drives on the
>> raid connectors would not show up and a full cold boot was required.
>> Basically I finally realized that the beta also had forced all drives to work
>
>> in UDMA mode 2 instead of the mode 5 that they actually are and this was
>> definately a bios issue. I proceeded to download the actual 1017 from asus
> and
>> even though it had the same 1017.04 name to it , it was definately the final
>> 1017 release. When it was installed, it fixed the UDMA issue and also the
> hard
>> drive mysteriously stopped locking up. I am absolutely positive it was the
>> beta bios at fault since i have tested the drive with the powermax utility
>> from here till sunday and there are no errors or SMART errors on any of my
>> drives.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>I have the actual 1017 BIOS Release... I think something is wrong with
>the IDE port...
Always try the most obvious first, try a new cable.

 

[nbk]

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GMAN wrote:
> In article <GOD0d.8665$ci3.64361@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:
>
>>GMAN wrote:
>>
>>>In article <ge40d.8085$lK5.260100@twister.southeast.rr.com>, NBK
>>
>><no@spam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>I have a P4P800 Deluxe 1017 BIOS, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Firewire card,
>>>>PATA Maxtor 40Gb Hard Drives, Windows XP SP2 slipstreamed and an Intel
>>>>3.06GHz processor.
>>>>
>>>>Every so often i hear a knock from the hard drive and i get a hard
>>>>freeze where Ctrl-Alt-Delete will not work. Sometimes a get various
>>>>blue screens: Kernel_Data_Inpage_Error Stop 0x0000007A or a BSD stating
>>>>that Windows has stopped due to hard error. Then the BIOS stops
>>>>recognizing my hard drive.
>>>>
>>>>Due i have a motherboard problem or a hard drive problem or Windows XP
>>>>SP2 issue?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>NBK
>>>
>>>Do you happen to have the actual release 1017 bios or the beta 1017.04
>>>version?
>>>
>>> I had the beta version for a long time and i started having the same click
>>>issues and lockups for like 20 seconds , then it would unfreeze for a few
>>>seconds and then repeat over and over. My F: drive seemed to be the one
>>
>>doing
>>
>>>the clanking sound. Also when i would reboot on occasion the drives on the
>>>raid connectors would not show up and a full cold boot was required.
>>>Basically I finally realized that the beta also had forced all drives to work
>>
>>>in UDMA mode 2 instead of the mode 5 that they actually are and this was
>>>definately a bios issue. I proceeded to download the actual 1017 from asus
>>
>>and
>>
>>>even though it had the same 1017.04 name to it , it was definately the final
>>>1017 release. When it was installed, it fixed the UDMA issue and also the
>>
>>hard
>>
>>>drive mysteriously stopped locking up. I am absolutely positive it was the
>>>beta bios at fault since i have tested the drive with the powermax utility
>>>from here till sunday and there are no errors or SMART errors on any of my
>>>drives.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I have the actual 1017 BIOS Release... I think something is wrong with
>>the IDE port...
>
> Always try the most obvious first, try a new cable.
I have tried several cables to no avail...
NBK

 

[Guest]

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Are you sure your drives are not just powering down?

 

[Guest]

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I was changing the processor on my Mboard and seem to have
bent some of the socket connectors. Is it possible to disassemble
the socket without removing the zif socket from the mboard?
If I could just remove the top sliding assembly...

For those of you using the Artic Silver heat sink paste, it
sticks really well and care should be exercised when removing
the heat sink. I wanted to test a new processor and managed to
pull the P4 out of the zif socket when trying to separate the heat
sink from the processor. Putting a new processor in, and closing
the lever seems to have bent some of the internal connectors.
(one of those late night things I shold have waited til morning.)

\A/yne

 

[nbk]

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W Shumaker wrote:
> Are you sure your drives are not just powering down?
I have that option turned off.

 

[nbk]

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NBK wrote:
> W Shumaker wrote:
>
>> Are you sure your drives are not just powering down?
>
> I have that option turned off.
I usually hear a clik from the hard drive and then a hard freeze or BSOD.
NBK

 

[Guest]

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NBK wrote:
> NBK wrote:
>
>> W Shumaker wrote:
>>
>>> Are you sure your drives are not just powering down?
>>
>>
>> I have that option turned off.
>
> I usually hear a clik from the hard drive and then a hard freeze or BSOD.
> NBK
sometimes when disk drives are starting to fail, they attempt to
re-calibrate by reading a specific calibration track on the disk.
If that is the case, get your data off the disk pronto.

Wayne