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NuQ wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-1009042228290001@192.168.1.177...
>> In article <kso0d.1122887$y4.197685@news.easynews.com>, "NuQ"
>> <nuq@8x7fg89t7h.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From NewEgg.
>>>
>>> Usage: the kids' and wife's PC. Email server for small group of 25
>>> users.
>>> Store the data
>>> backups from my main PC.
>>>
>>> Linkworld ATX Mid-Tower Case 400W N82E16811164006 $37.50
>>
>> AthlonXP motherboards draw most power from +5V. Your power supply has
>> 35A on +5V, which should be enough.
>>
>>> Lite-On White 8X DVD+/-RW Drive, Model SOHW-812S, N82E16827106934
>>> $57.00 Speeze "FrontCooler" Hard Disk Driver Cooler, N82E16835150008
>>> $3.99
>>
>> This will certainly work. An alternative, is to mount the disk drive
>> down low, buy and install an extra 80mm fan in the lower front
>> location for a fan. Normal airflow assumption is "in on bottom front, out
>> on
>> top rear". But your Speeze will work just as well, if you like.
>
> Good thinking. I was wanting to keep the drive cool as it will be my
> backup drive.
>
>>> NEC 1.44MB Floppy Drive, Model FD1231H, N82E16821152001 $8.00
>>> Seagate 200GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive ST3200822A, N82E16822148032
>>> $117.50 Corsair Value Select (512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 N82E16820145440
>>> $156.00
>>
>> Nforce2 is a bit picky about ram. You might do some Googling, to see
>> if people report problems with Value Select. Or, visit the forums at
>> nforcershq.com and do the same check there. Click the "search for
>> all terms" button on their search page (I frequently forget to do
>> that). Amdmb.com is another site (a.k.a pcper.com), but the search
>> engine there is restricted to members only.
>
> I'll check them out.
>
>>> ASUS "A7N8X-E Deluxe" N82E16813131478 $83.00
>>> AMD Athlon XP 3200+ "Barton", 400MHz FSB, 512K N82E16819103390
>>> $205.00
>>
>> This is where it gets interesting. The Newegg price for 3200+ is on
>> the high side. Other places offer it for less money, but with a lower
>> price comes the danger of the product being a remarked 2500+.
>> Personally, I would either buy an AthlonXP-M 2500+ unlocked mobile and
>> overclock
>> it to FSB400 or buy an AthlonXP 2500+ desktop, and overclock it from
>> FSB333 to FSB400. Basically, by doing that, you are doing the same thing
>> the
>> re-markers do to processors, but you reap the savings. For info on
>> overclockability, check cpudatabase.com. With an adjustable Vcore on
>> the motherboard, should be a piece of cake (with some ram that works
>> of course).
>
> I'm not adverse to o/cing. I've done it a few times and run this P4
> 2.8 at 2.95 (or higher sometimes)
>
>>> SAPPHIRE RADEON 9200 128MB DDR 128-bit DVI/TV-Out, 8X
>>> N82E16814102314 $65.00
>>>
>>> Product total: $732.99
>>> Shipping & Handling: $ 32.94
>>> Total (Before tax): $ 765.93
>>
>> For $100 or less, you can get a 2500+ or 2600+ AthlonXP-M Socket462
>> from here. Click the review button, to read the comments for each
>> one. I think these are OEM, so you'll need to find a HSF (like
>> N82E16835186104 Scythe 2M maybe)
>>
>>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&catalog=343&propertycodevalue=4181,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=0&DEPA=0&InnerManu=1028
>>
>>
http://www.scythe-usa.com/cooler/2m.html
>>
>> Here is a retail 2500+ AthlonXP for $94 (has HSF)
>>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-379&depa=0
>>
>> So, you can probably shave close to $100 off the price.
>>
>> The thing that makes me the most nervous, is the ram issue. I don't
>> know how best to advise you there, due to the hit and miss nature
>> of ram selection. Prepare now, by getting a copy of memtest86 from
>> memtest.org, and test the RAM before you install an OS on the hard
>> drive. Memtest86 runs from a floppy, and memtest86 is its own
>> operating system, so you don't even need to load DOS on there. Set the
>> memory
>> clock to "sync" or "100%" for best, error free results. This means,
>> if you run at FSB333, run ram at DDR333. FSB400, run ram at DDR400.
>> Both will be possible with your PC3200 ram choice.
>
> Thanks, Paul. I've always stayed away from AMD based systems for the
> exact reasons you mention now. If it's not the chipset/video card
> compatibility problem, it's the chipset/RAM issue. Although, I did just
> build a
> budget AMD system (2500+) for someone getting parts from Newegg for
> $420.00
> shipped and it all seems fine. Maybe I just lucked out!
I used to think the same, but the cheapy I built for my daughter to play
kids games and educational stuff on runs quite well. I was able to put it
in a case and semi mod it for a spongebob squarepants look for about 750.00.
This is all she needs for now, so it ought to last till it drops.
Shannon