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June 21, 2004 10:06:04 PM

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I put in a new NTFS hard drive not to long ago and I
should have about 20gb free but its telling me I only
have 6. Can anyone help me and give me a solution.

June 22, 2004 8:44:28 AM

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You can troubleshoot the issue by following the detailed instructions in
the KB article given below:;en-us;315688&Product=winxp


How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in Windows XP


The NTFS file system supports many volume- and file-level features that may
cause free disk space to be either misreported or reported as lost. You may
notice this behavior if an NTFS volume suddenly becomes very full, and you
cannot find the cause or locate the folders and files that cause the NTFS
volume to become full. This behavior may occur if a user gains malicious or
unauthorized access to an NTFS volume on which either very large files or a
high quantity of small files are secretly copied, and then removes or
restricts NTFS permissions on these files. This behavior may also occur
after a system malfunction or a power outage that causes volume corruption
to occur.

This article describes how to check NTFS disk space allocation to either
discover offending files and folders or locate volume corruption. This
article is intended for users of Windows XP operating systems that support
advanced storage features and troubleshooting methods.
The disk space allocation of an NTFS volume may be misreported for any of
the following reasons:
The cluster size of the NTFS volume is too large for the average-sized
files that are being stored.
File attributes or NTFS permissions prevent files or folders from being
either displayed or accessed when you use either Microsoft Windows Explorer
or a Windows command prompt.
The folder path exceed 255 characters.
Folders or files contain invalid or reserved file names.
NTFS metafiles (such as the Master File Table [MFT]) have grown and cannot
be unallocated.
Files or folders contain alternate data streams.
NTFS corruption causes Windows to report free space as being in use.
Other NTFS features cause file-allocation confusion.
The Cluster Size Is Too Large
Disk space can be consumed only by files and folders that include internal
NTFS metafiles, for example the MFT, folder indexes, and so on. Multiples
of a cluster consume all file space allocation. A cluster is a collection
of contiguous sectors. The cluster size is determined at the time that the
volume is formatted and is further determined by the partition size.

For additional information about clusters, click the article number below
to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
140365 Default Cluster Size for FAT and NTFS

After a file is created, it consumes the minimum size of a single cluster
of disk space, depending on the initial file size. After you add data to a
file, NTFS increases the file's allocation in multiples of the cluster size.

To determine the current cluster size and volume statistics, run the
following command from a command prompt:
chkdsk d:

The following text is an example of the output that is displayed if you run
this command:
4096543 KB total disk space.
(This value is the total formatted disk capacity.)

2906360 KB in 19901 files.
(This value is the space used by user file data.)

6344 KB in 1301 indexes.
(This value is the space used by NTFS indexes.)

0 KB in bad sectors.
(This value is the space lost to bad sectors.

49379 KB in use by the system.
(This value is includes MFT and other NTFS metafiles.)

22544 KB occupied by the log file.
(This value is the NTFS Log file; you use the chkdsk /l:size to adjust this

1134460 KB available on disk.
(This value is the available FREE disk space.)

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
(This value is the cluster size [4K])

1024135 total allocation units on disk.
(This value is the total clusters on disk.)

283615 allocation units available on disk. (This value is the available
free clusters.)

NOTE: Multiply each value that is reported in kilobytes (KB) by 1024 to
determine the accurate byte size (for example, 2,906,360 x 1024 =
2,976,112,640 bytes).

Review this output to determine the default cluster size and how your disk
space is being used. To see if the cluster is using the optimal cluster
size, determine the amount of wasted space:
Double-click My Computer, and then double-click the drive letter (for
example, D) of the volume that you want to check.
Click any file or folder, and then click Select All on the Edit menu.
Right-click any file or folder, and then click Properties.
Click the General tab, and then review the "Size" and "Size on disk" file
size values, which calculate the total number of files and folders on the
entire volume.
If you are not using NTFS compression for any files or folders that are
contained on the volume, the difference between the Size value and the Size
on disk value is the wasted space that occurs because the cluster size is
larger than necessary. Choose an optimal cluster size so that the Size on
disk value is as close to the Size value as possible. An excessive
discrepancy between the Size on disk value and the Size value is an
indication that the default cluster size is too large for the average file
size that you are storing on the volume. In this scenario, it is
recommended that you decrease the cluster size. To do so, back up the
volume, and then use the format command with the /a switch to specify the
appropriate allocation size to reformat the volume. For example, run the
following command for a 2-KB cluster size:
format D: /a:2048

Alternatively, you can enable NTFS compression to regain space that is lost
because of an incorrect cluster size; however, if you do so, you may
experience a slight decrease in performance.
File Attributes or NTFS Permissions
You can use either Windows Explorer or the dir /a /s folder list command to
report the file and folder statistics for only those files and folders that
you have permissions to access. Hidden files and protected operating system
files are always excluded from this report by default. Because some folders
are excluded, inaccurate file and folder totals and size statistics may be
displayed by Windows Explorer or dir command outputs. To include these
types of files in the overall statistics, change Folder Options:
Double-click My Computer, and then double-click the drive letter of the
volume that you want to check.
Click Folder Options on the Tools menu, and then click the View tab.
Click the Show Hidden Files and Folders check box, and then click to clear
the Hide protected operating system files check box.
After you receive the warning message, click Apply.
After you unhide the files and folders, you can use either Windows Explorer
or the dir /a /s command to generate the total of all files and folders
that are contained on the volume to which the user has permissions.

To determine the folders and files that cannot be accessed:
From a command prompt, send the output of a dir /a /s to a text file.

For example, run the following command:
dir d: /a /s >c:\d-dir.txt

Start Ntbackup.exe, click Options on the Tools menu, click the Backup Log
tab, and then click Detailed.
Click the Backup tab, back up the entire volume that is affected (in this
example, drive D), and then start the backup procedure.
After the backup procedure is complete, view the backup report, and then
compare the folders in the Ntbackup log output with the folders in the
output that you saved in a text file in step 1.
The backup procedure accesses all files; therefore, its report may contain
folders and files that are not seen or counted when you use either Windows
Explorer or the dir command. If you are looking for large files or folders
that you cannot use Windows Explorer to access, you may find it easier to
use the Ntbackup graphical user interface (GUI) to navigate the volume. Use
the Ntbackup GUI to view the volume without actually backing up the volume.

After you locate files to which you do not have access, open the file or
folder's properties in Windows Explorer, click the Security tab, and then
add or change permissions so that the folder is in included in the dir /a
/s command output. By default, you do not have access to the System Volume
Information folder.

NOTE: You may find that some of the folder or file properties do not
contain a Security tab, or you may find that you cannot re-assign
permissions to the affected folders and files. You may receive the
following error message while you try to access these files:

D:\folder_name\ is not accessible

Access is denied

If you find these types of folders, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services for additional assistance. To contact Microsoft Product Support
Services, visit the following Microsoft Web site:

Invalid File Names
Folders or files that contain invalid or reserved file names may also be
excluded from file and folder statistics. Folders or files that contain
leading or trailing spaces are acceptable in NTFS; however, these files are
not acceptable in the Win32 subsystem. Therefore, neither Windows Explorer
nor a command prompt can reliably handle files that have leading or
trailing spaces.

For additional information, click the article number below to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
120716 How to Remove Files with Reserved Names in Windows NT

Typically, it is not possible to rename or delete files or folders that
have leading or trailing spaces. If you try to rename or delete these
folders of files, you may receive one of the following error messages:

Error renaming file or folder

Cannot rename file: Cannot read from the source file or disk.

Error deleting file or folder

Cannot delete file: Cannot read from the source file or disk.
If you have folders or files that you cannot delete or rename, contact
Product Support Services at the following Microsoft Web site:

NTFS MFT Expansion
After you create and format an NTFS volume, NTFS metafiles are created. One
of these metafiles is called the "Master File Table" (MFT). This file is
very small when it is created (approximately 16 KB), but it grows as files
and folders are created on the volume. When a file is created, it is
entered into the MFT as a file record segment, which is always 1024 bytes
(1 KB) in size. As files are added to the volume, the MFT grows as
required. However, when you delete files, the associated file record
segments are marked as free to be reused, but the total file record
segments and associated MFT allocation remains the same. This behavior
explains why you do not regain the space that is used by the MFT after you
delete a large number of files.

To determine the exact size of the MFT, use the built-in disk defragmenter
utility to analyze the volume. View the defragmenter report to obtain
detailed information about the size and number of fragments in the MFT.

The following text is an example of the defragmenter report:

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 26,203 KB
MFT record count = 21,444
Percent MFT in use = 81 %
Total MFT fragments = 4

For a more complete picture of how much space (overhead) is being used by
the entire NTFS file system, run the chkdsk command, and then view
resulting output for the following line:
In use by system.

Currently, only third-party defragmenter utilities consolidate unused MFT
file record segment records and reclaim unused MFT allocated space.
Alternate Data Streams
NTFS allows files and folders to contain alternate data streams. This
feature allows multiple data allocations to be associated with a single
file or folder. Please be aware of the following limitations when you use
alternate data streams on files and folders:
Windows Explorer and the dir command do not report the data in alternate
data streams as part of the file size or volume statistics. Instead, they
show only the total bytes for the primary data stream.
The output from the chkdsk command accurately reports space used by a
user's data files, including alternate data streams.
Disk quotas accurately track and report all data stream allocations that
are part of a user's data files.
Ntbackup records the number of bytes that are backed up in the backup log
report. However, it does not show which files contain alternate data
streams, nor does it show accurate file sizes for files that include data
in alternate streams.
NTFS File System Corruption
In very rare circumstances, the NTFS $MFT or $BITMAP metafiles may become
corrupted and result in lost disk space. To identify and fix this issue,
run the chkdsk /F command against the volume in question. Toward the end of
chkdsk process, you receive the following message if the $BITMAP metafile
needs to be adjusted:
Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute. CHKDSK
discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap. Windows has
made corrections to the file system.

Other NTFS Features That May Cause File Allocation Confusion
NTFS also supports hard links and reparse points that allow volume mount
points and folder junctions to be created. These additional NTFS features
may cause confusion when you try to determine how much space is being
consumed on a physical volume.

A hard link is a folder entry for a file regardless of where the actual
file data exists on that volume. Every file is considered to have at least
one hard link. On NTFS volumes, each file can have multiple hard links;
therefore, a single file can be displayed in many folders (or even in the
same folder with different names). Because all of the links reference the
same file, programs can open any of the links and modify the file. A file
is deleted from the file system only after all of the links to it have been
deleted. After you create a hard link, programs can use the link like any
other file name. Note that Windows Explorer and a command prompt will show
all linked files as being the same size, even though they all share the
same data and do not actually use that amount of disk space.

Volume mount points and folder junctions allow an empty folder on an NTFS
volume to point to the root or subfolder on another volume. Windows
Explorer and the dir /s command follow the reparse point, count any files
and folders on the destination volume, and then include them in the host
volume's statistics. This behavior may lead you to believe that more space
is being used on the host volume than what is actually being used. For
additional information about junction points, click the article number
below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
205524 How to Create and Manipulate NTFS Junction Points

In summary, use the following methods to correctly determine how the disk
space is being used on a volume:
View the output from the chkdsk command.
Use the Ntbackup GUI or view the backup logs.
View the disk quotas.
On the other hand, Windows Explorer and the dir command have some
limitations and drawbacks when you use them to determine how disk space is
being used.

Hope this helps.

Vijay S

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