P4P800-E Deluxe and WinXP SP2?

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Hi

I've installed the WinXP SP2 on my machine (Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Northwood).
Unfortunately the system hangs after the installation. :-(

Ther're same configurations which runs after the SP2 installation?

TIA
p

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Ghostrider wrote:
> Peter Wagner wrote:

>
>
> Not really enough information. When Windows XP fails
> after an update such as installing a Service Pack, the
> problem is due to the Operating System and not the
> hardware. The exception would be incompatible hardware
> or hardware configured incorrectly at the time when the
> update (or SP) was installed. And, BTW, are both systems
> exactly the same in all aspects, including configuration,
> setup, hardware revision numbers, etc.?

Thanks.
But I don't understand that, then now my system runs rock-stable. :-(

p

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Instead of disabling the firewall, you should configure it for the
particular programs that didn't work with it "out of the box".


Bob wrote:

> P,
> I installed sp2 on mine and have had few problems. Had to disable the
> firewall to make all things run. Other then that all is well.
> Bob
>
> "Peter Wagner" <vba@directbox.com> wrote in message
> news:2rm3i3F1b4f37U1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>Ghostrider wrote:
>>
>>>Peter Wagner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Not really enough information. When Windows XP fails
>>>after an update such as installing a Service Pack, the
>>>problem is due to the Operating System and not the
>>>hardware. The exception would be incompatible hardware
>>>or hardware configured incorrectly at the time when the
>>>update (or SP) was installed. And, BTW, are both systems
>>>exactly the same in all aspects, including configuration,
>>>setup, hardware revision numbers, etc.?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>But I don't understand that, then now my system runs rock-stable. :-(
>>
>>p
>
>
>

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"Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm Pro like
> we always have.

Or better is to use SP2's firewall + good virus scanner + good spyware
scanner and discard ZA. Enable Automatic Updates.

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"Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:1qO5d.5829$5O5.698@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm Pro
> >> like
> >> we always have.
> >
> > Or better is to use SP2's firewall + good virus scanner + good spyware
> > scanner and discard ZA. Enable Automatic Updates.
> >
> >
>
> No thanks, I will choose those updates and stay with Zone Alarm Pro.

A mistake for the general user community and it requires another third party
OS support app(ZA).
>
>

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Ron Reaugh wrote:
> "Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:qUP5d.5920$5O5.5908@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:3NO5d.637674$Gx4.65924@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>> "Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1qO5d.5829$5O5.698@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm
>>>> Pro like
>>>> we always have.
>>>
>>> Or better is to use SP2's firewall + good virus scanner + good
>>> spyware scanner and discard ZA. Enable Automatic Updates.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No thanks, I will choose those updates and stay with Zone Alarm Pro.
>
> A mistake for the general user community and it requires another
> third party OS support app(ZA).

Seconded.

There's no reason to install yet more Third Party software on your machine
(and low-level OS-hook software at that !), when the built-in Firewall works
just fine !

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> > There's no reason to install yet more Third Party software on your
machine
> > (and low-level OS-hook software at that !), when the built-in Firewall
> works
> > just fine !
>
> Precisely.
>
> SP2's Firewall + Automatic Updates + good virus scanner + good spyware
> checker makes for a rather safe computing environment. Outgoing firewall
> checking is NOT needed.

You really are an idiot...

- A firewall is not a bad thing, but only protects against direct attacks
coming into your PC.
- Automatic updates are evil. They can break just as easily as protect a
system.
- Virus scanners and Spyware scanners can only catch what they already know
about. So a LARGE amount of people have to be infected and reported before
either of these will do any good at all.

To suggest that all the above are great to have, and then suggest that an
outgoing firewall isn't necessary is just plain WACKO!

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how bout no firewall (ive never had a problem)

"Nom" <Nom@Somewhere.Somewhere> wrote in message
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> Ron Reaugh wrote:
>> "Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:qUP5d.5920$5O5.5908@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:3NO5d.637674$Gx4.65924@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1qO5d.5829$5O5.698@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm
>>>>> Pro like
>>>>> we always have.
>>>>
>>>> Or better is to use SP2's firewall + good virus scanner + good
>>>> spyware scanner and discard ZA. Enable Automatic Updates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No thanks, I will choose those updates and stay with Zone Alarm Pro.
>>
>> A mistake for the general user community and it requires another
>> third party OS support app(ZA).
>
> Seconded.
>
> There's no reason to install yet more Third Party software on your machine
> (and low-level OS-hook software at that !), when the built-in Firewall
> works just fine !

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Haggard the Horrendous wrote:
>>> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm
>>> Pro like we always have.
>>
>> What do you gain from that approach ?
>
> Well, in my case (W98SE), it caught the trojan that M$ installed along
> with the drivers for their MM keyboard that kept trying to call out.

You appear to have a bad case of Paranoia-Disease

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Noozer wrote:
>>> There's no reason to install yet more Third Party software on your
>>> machine (and low-level OS-hook software at that !), when the
>>> built-in Firewall works just fine !
>>
>> Precisely.
>>
>> SP2's Firewall + Automatic Updates + good virus scanner + good
>> spyware checker makes for a rather safe computing environment.
>> Outgoing firewall checking is NOT needed.
>
> You really are an idiot...

Er, why ?

> - A firewall is not a bad thing, but only protects against direct
> attacks coming into your PC.

Precisely.

???

> - Automatic updates are evil. They can break just as easily as
> protect a system.

They protect a system approximately one billion times more than they break
it.

To compare level of breakage to level of protection, is just loonacy.

> - Virus scanners and Spyware scanners can only catch what they
> already know about.

Poppycock.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=antivirus+heuristics

> So a LARGE amount of people have to be infected
> and reported before either of these will do any good at all.

Moot point - there's no alternative.

> To suggest that all the above are great to have, and then suggest
> that an outgoing firewall isn't necessary is just plain WACKO!

They are, and it's not.

If you need you're Firewall to stop OUTGOING traffic, then you're ALREADY
infected !

Irrelevent of whether you have ANY of the above, YOU ARE INFECTED ! Your
security policy has a 100% failure rate !

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Haggard the Horrendous wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:21:55 +0100, "Nom" <Nom@Somewhere.Somewhere>
> wrote:
>
>> Haggard the Horrendous wrote:
>>>>> Or like many others disable the WinXP firewall and use Zone Alarm
>>>>> Pro like we always have.
>>>>
>>>> What do you gain from that approach ?
>>>
>>> Well, in my case (W98SE), it caught the trojan that M$ installed
>>> along with the drivers for their MM keyboard that kept trying to
>>> call out.
>>
>> You appear to have a bad case of Paranoia-Disease
>
> Paranoia? You want a copy of the logs detailing an EMail exchange with
> M$ where they admit they installed a routine on my computer that calls
> out..., that that portion of the software didn't ask my permission to
> install, that there's no way to disable it or prevent the installation
> , and that they don't have a fix for the problem?

Er, so ? I don't understand the issue ? Why is that a problem ? This is
first-party Microsoft software we're talking about here - hardly an unknown
source !

> Oh, and they never said *why* it was calling out.

Did you ask them ? Their Intellipoint and Intellitype software, checks
online for updates automatically - that's all it was doing ! I use the same
kit with my Internet Keyboard Pro - automatic updates are a good thing

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Haggard the Horrendous wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:12:20 +0100, "Nom" <Nom@Somewhere.Somewhere>
> wrote:
>> Er, so ? I don't understand the issue ? Why is that a problem ? This
>> is first-party Microsoft software we're talking about here - hardly
>> an unknown source !
>
> Exactly.

Er ?

>>> Oh, and they never said *why* it was calling out.
>>
>> Did you ask them ? Their Intellipoint and Intellitype software,
>> checks online for updates automatically - that's all it was doing !
>> I use the same kit with my Internet Keyboard Pro -
>
> Of course. They wouldn't/couldn't/didn't say. Please understand.. This
> is *my* computer, not M$'s. They have *no* right to install extra
> software on my system. I don't care how benign it is. It's *my*
> computer. It's *my* decision as to whether I want to check for/install
> updates, not theirs.

I don't understand. It's merely a computer - why are you so protective ?
Things like auto-updates make things easier for the user - and that includes
you !

If a condition of using a Microsoft Keyboard, is that their driver attempts
to update itself online, then that's just fine with me. The more things that
autoupdate, the better !

I say again, this is Microsoft we're talking about here - not some random
third-party company. What with all the anti-trust motions etc. I can't
imagine anyone safer to "phone home" !

> The software, during the install, did *not* ask my permission to
> check for updates. There was no option to disable this 'feature'.
> There was no asking after installation if I wanted it to go online
> when it did so.
>
>> automatic updates are a good thing
>
> No, they're not.

Of course they are ! Having to continually update every bit of your software
manually, is a huge waste of time !

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Outgoing protection isn't wacko, perhaps you are though.

"Geneve" <a@n.com> wrote in message news:crfg5b0104l@drn.newsguy.com...
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:23:33 GMT Noozer said :
>>
>>To suggest that all the above are great to have, and then suggest that an
>>outgoing firewall isn't necessary is just plain WACKO!
>>
>>
>
> Personally I like having firewall outgoing protection when it can
> discern it...
>
> I use Zone Alarm registered (legal version subscribed)
>
>
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